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Harry was totally ill advised when writing this book

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supertato32 · 07/01/2023 10:17

I'm actually shocked at the level of personal detail this book seems to go into. He seems to have shared every personal moment and detail in his life and his families' life.

I can't work out if the publisher or his Management have massively taken advantage of his vulnerability in advising him to write so personally or if he is genuinely that bitter and naive that he feels it was the right thing to do.

There are meant to be two more books, what other revelations are there? Whilst it's fascinating to read (yes I am hypocrite as I do find it interesting) I can't help but think he will live to regret doing this and it will all blow up in his face. Considering he hates the tabloid press it feels so tabloidy (I don't think that's a word but you get what I mean).

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daretodenim · 07/01/2023 10:43

LionsandLambs · 07/01/2023 10:37

I suspect he doesn’t listen to advisers. Just sycophants and over therapied hugger types, of which the US has plenty. Also he’s obviously motivated by money. He’s not the brightest and a vulnerable person despite his age.

I agree with this.

I think The Firm's advisors have plenty of historical, cultural, political and media knowledge - and the multiple points where those intersect.

Any US-based PR advisor doesn't have that. Instead they most likely have people around them sharing opinions that makes him feel good. As everything now is about his right to feel good, it'll dovetail quite nicely into that.

I've got to say that I'm sure he didn't read the 400-pages of his book. I'm guessing his wife didn't read it all either. I also imagine that he just had chats with the ghost writer in which he let some things slip while he was making a concerted effort to make sure others are included.

supertato32 · 07/01/2023 10:44

@ShowOfHands sorry for including you in that comment. Appreciate your help, just got a barrage of messages saying the same thing but in not such a nice way. I apologise for sounding a grouch xxx

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debbrianna · 07/01/2023 10:44

supertato32 · 07/01/2023 10:37

@debbrianna will whoever realised the book ahead of time get sued or is it all part of the master marketing plan?

I think it's one of two things. Ether someone paid for the leaking, or they did it to gunner more publicity. It's still a win-win for them because they have already been paid.

However, I had no interest in the first place because it's more about Harry and not Meghan. However, this is actually tempting me to read it from a actual book copy. I have always avoided Harry's side and focused on Meghan as an interest.

daretodenim · 07/01/2023 10:44

*any CELEBRITY US-based PR advisor.

Menomenon · 07/01/2023 10:44

It’s ‘Prince Andrew Syndrome’ - he’s so sure of his own righteousness that he can’t see all the mistakes he is making. He’s spoilt, angry and entitled.

It is still pretty sad. But yeah wow what an error. And he seems to believe he deserves an apology on top. Er, yeah, so, if you tell the world about your brother’s knob etc, then he’ll really be in the mood to kiss and make up.

supertato32 · 07/01/2023 10:47

@ShowOfHands I think that's Mumsnet in general no? Haha. I once posted something about my newborn at 3am, as I hadn't slept for a month. It was quite a vulnerable post and got lots of helpful replies, but I always remember someone commented about my punctuation In a really bitchy way. 😂

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debbrianna · 07/01/2023 10:48

I also, think the payment for the next book deal will triple. I hope Meghan rewrites her book deal contract.

supertato32 · 07/01/2023 10:48

@Menomenon I know. Wtf has William's knob got to do with Harry's life. I love the fact the royal family haven't commented at all. It's like a game of chess

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Hbh17 · 07/01/2023 10:48

He may have received excellent advice, just as he did when he was a working royal. Sadly, as we all see in many other situations, individuals can choose not to follow the advice they are given.
Harry has shown himself to be foolish, not very bright and possibly unwell (I am not a doctor). He may not realise this, and consider the book a success - if only for the $$$$$$$.
But will he understand that he has made himself a laughing stock?

Jakeyachey · 07/01/2023 10:49

I really don’t understand these threads, looking to find someone else to blame other than harry.

this one is just bonkers. He’s been poorly advised. Poor harry. It’s not his fault.

even a 12 year old could have told you it was a bad idea, that discretion is a thing.

harry is responsible. And he did it for money As well as spite and revenge

chocolateflapjacks · 07/01/2023 10:51

I feel like he think he's a beloved national treasure that can get away with a tell-all cheeky book.

Reality is, he can't. He's not respected enough, or perhaps old enough.

Anyone understand what I'm trying to get at? I'm not very good with conveying what I'm trying to say!

chocolateflapjacks · 07/01/2023 10:52

ShowOfHands · 07/01/2023 10:19

Can you re-post in the correct topic or ask for this to be moved please?

BORE OFD

ShowOfHands · 07/01/2023 10:52

supertato32 · 07/01/2023 10:44

@ShowOfHands sorry for including you in that comment. Appreciate your help, just got a barrage of messages saying the same thing but in not such a nice way. I apologise for sounding a grouch xxx

Aah s'alright but gracious of you to apologise. Thankfully, people are responding to your question now which is as it should be.

My twopennorth fwiw is that my best friend lost her Mum at the same age as Harry did and wasn't very well supported. It has rippled across her entire adult life and made her a vulnerable person in some respects, navigating her life under a shadow that will never lift. But she enjoys good support now and I thank every deity or spirit who may exist that she doesn't have to live any of that trauma in the public sphere. I suspect I feel a little bit like you op in that I have read some of the headlines and the odd thread and found it jaw dropping and then felt uncomfortable and wondered quite why I'm interested in any of it. It is a really difficult situation at its core but is amplified by the family status and history. I don't see any happy outcomes here and there is culpability at several doors.

marvingale · 07/01/2023 10:52

NotAnotherBathBomb · 07/01/2023 10:29

NO ONE CARES

You mean about the book or the thread?

debbrianna · 07/01/2023 10:52

supertato32 · 07/01/2023 10:48

@Menomenon I know. Wtf has William's knob got to do with Harry's life. I love the fact the royal family haven't commented at all. It's like a game of chess

They have, but in the usual way through mouthpieces. A fair good example was the nazi uniform one where the reporter made sure they worded their commentary very carefully while cobfirming that William thought it was all bantz when he was asked about it when the exchanged photos came out.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/01/2023 10:53

I've got to say that I'm sure he didn't read the 400-pages of his book

Well he'll be reading it now Hmm
According to the blurb his spoken version is 14 hours long, so I'd have thought that would include most of it - and surely he'd do a read-through before attempting the recording?

ShowOfHands · 07/01/2023 10:54

supertato32 · 07/01/2023 10:47

@ShowOfHands I think that's Mumsnet in general no? Haha. I once posted something about my newborn at 3am, as I hadn't slept for a month. It was quite a vulnerable post and got lots of helpful replies, but I always remember someone commented about my punctuation In a really bitchy way. 😂

I did the same once, posted about how hard breastfeeding a newborn was and in amongst some lovely support, somebody told me I should go back to work and then I wouldn't have time to moan. I laughed quite a lot.

supertato32 · 07/01/2023 10:55

@debbrianna you know everything. I did always think when that story broke that the Royal Family had given the story to the press to hide a much more scandalous one from another member of the family.

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ShowOfHands · 07/01/2023 10:55

chocolateflapjacks · 07/01/2023 10:52

BORE OFD

As you asked so nicely, I will do just that. Sorry to bore you. Have you tried a good book or the Christmas episode of Ghosts?

Puffin87 · 07/01/2023 10:56

He's just spent too much time in America where over sharing is a form of currency.

Badger1970 · 07/01/2023 10:56

I think it's pretty clear that he and Meghan surround themselves by YES men, and are both isolated from their families. So there isn't anyone to advise him with any degree of honesty.

Life's pretty dangerous when you remove any reality from around yourself.

seriouslyjaded · 07/01/2023 10:57

I work in PR and am really puzzled by the strategy behind this (if there indeed is one!). Harry and Meghan want to be taken seriously as activists, philanthropists and advocates for good causes but this book feels like tabloid kiss and tell.

From a strategy point of view, doing Oprah was a good move (classy lady/classy show) followed by other carefully selected 'serious' media but then all these lurid details about sex, drugs, virginity etc were 100% bound to end up as cheezy tabloid headlines.

They've either had no advice, really bad advice or there's some kind of left field strategy that no one can figure out. It's all very puzzling!

supertato32 · 07/01/2023 10:57

@ShowOfHands always a few mumsnetters that haven't had their coffee. Also I am single mother and if I ever post something about child care arrangement there are always a few 'men' that come on to make you feel utterly shit. Anyway, sorry if any animosity came your way on this thread. Sending you a virtual hug and sorry you were told to go back to work and stop moaning. People lead sad, boring lives (says the woman who started a thread about Prince Harry haha) xxx

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MarshaMelrose · 07/01/2023 11:00

NotAnotherBathBomb · 07/01/2023 10:29

NO ONE CARES

YES, THEY DO

Menomenon · 07/01/2023 11:00

@seriouslyjaded It is so puzzling, they must have access to great advice.

How did no-one with a military/security background not do a risk assessment on the draft?