I am genuinely worried for Harry's mental health now after this

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Give it another week of worldwide chewing over his words and all the drama it's creating, I'm genuinely worried for Harry. How can you go anywhere and hold your head up after you've opened yourself to such ridicule? He might want an un-royal life but he is a prince non-the-less. Where's the dignity? He really, really needs help. I sincerely hope it gets it. The fallout from this won't be forgotten in a hurry. And to top it off, how can he make his family truly secure now?

I don’t quite understand what you are getting at with your post tbh

It’s also relevant that nearly every modern generation has this messed up pattern. It’s not healthy at all.

PW should be worried about his own kids.

Seriously?!
And just how do you change the irrefutable fact that he wasn’t born first, he therefore wasn’t first in line to the throne and therefore needed to forge his own life pathway, something the heir to the throne could never do?
He says he pities William but also envies his becoming king eventually.
What did he want to happen? William to be bumped off as a child/teenager/before William had children?
Bloody farcical.
He’s wasting his opportunities to do something other than whinge.

How? He's a grown man so his decision alone to write and publish this book.

Agreed.

I think he has been badly advised and surrounded himself with people who don't have his best interests at heart.

He never was the clever but at least he seemed to have a good heart and a sense of fun.

Now he just comes across as a bitter, angry person who will do anything for money and media attention and who is hellbent on destroying the rest of the family.

I can completely accept that the Royals are a dysfunctional family in general and that there is some truth in what he and his wife are saying but this book is just plain ridiculous and he just comes across as a publicity seeking, petulant fool.

It seems to me like the men in his family, Charles and William, do best when they have a partner who is down to earth, sensible and knows how to deal with their character flaws. Camilla it seems for example knows how to handle Charles and made him a happier and better person.

Harry chose to marry someone who did not bring him stability and just aggravated his issues.

They could have had a lovely life in a new country, free from the shackles of the royal family, enjoying time with their kids and counting their blessings.

Instead they sought publicity at every turn and portrayed themselves as victims when they have so much privilege.

I do hope he finds his way back from this but I really have only contempt for both of them now.

I wonder if in a few years he will look back on this with horror at what he has actually done. I do hope someone is supporting him with his mental health because something has gone terribly wrong there.

The same way they have covered up William’s misdeeds.

I've just heard a radio presenter talk about Harry and 'his reality'. I think the modern culture of 'your reality' 'your truth' 'your lived experience' can be hugely damaging and we are seeing this in Harry. He clearly believes that 'his truth' is 'the truth' and this is being enabled. I believe that Meghan is a narcissist (sadly based in my own bitter experience) and narcissists only see everything from their point of view. In life the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle. In Harry's mind Meghan is now the good guy and everyone else is the bad guy. Hugely damaging and I worry about what will happen to him.

She’s only thinking about the money!

I just want to debunk the myth that there isn't already plenty of support and resource available for the UK Armed Forces. There is!

The fact PH hasn't chosen to go down the route of trauma support may be because he hasn't chosen to, or doesn't recognise that he may have undiagnosed PTSD due to his time in the Armed Forces, or hasn't joined the dots with all the other stuff going on in his life (death of his mother, lack of timely support from his father, etc). His life had been incredibly complex and he hasn't had the appropriate guidance, but let's not conflate that with lack of support available for Army Veterans, which is available if people want to avail themselves of it.

So grown men aren’t susceptible to coercive control? I think you probably know that’s not true even if you feel inclined to defend your point.

His mother had mental health problems. KC is supposed to have tried to get her help and she refused. There are various reports she was violent, went into rages and screamed and writhed when she didn’t get her own way.

The palace also got Harry counselling but he didn’t take it seriously and laughed it off. Some people on these threads are speculating that Harry thinks he is in some way Diana or there to fulfil her destiny. He definitely has mashed together his feelings for his mother and those for his wife.

If it is unfair to state Meghan shoulders some of the blame, it is also unfair to say his mental health problems come from being part of the RF.

I don't have any sympathy for Harry. There's no real evidence he's anything beyond entitled and spoilt and unable to accept other people are fully human and have opinions that don't align with his. I see someone who is very much used to getting his own way and believes he is entitled to everything he wants, no matter the consequences for anyone else.

For those he's harmed by his series of money grabbing and attention seeking stories he's published / given in an interview, yes I have sympathy.

Particularly his security team who I hope are all polishing their CVs as they are now at significantly greater risk, or at least are getting a cut of the book money. Who the hell needs a client who is determined (presumably against good advice) to shoot themselves in the foot as he has. Also those veterans who've had to evacuate Afghanistan because of the security risk his revelations (for money) have caused.

Awful for his family also, who he knows will not be able to rebut his accusations. He's claiming life in the Royal family was hard but then he's making it much worse for those remaining. He clearly doesn't give a shit about their mental health, just the money.

The same way they have covered up William’s misdeeds.

so they’ve been treated the same

Another post blaming Meghan for the actions of a grown man.
I watched the Netflix documentary and all I could see was a man who has issues with his family . That man was more than ready to talk.

The same way they have covered up William’s misdeeds. @Lampzade

Of course, but William is still in the machine, Harry is now the loose cannon with no or poor or disregarded advice. This is who he is, who he has always been.

The same way they have covered up William’s misdeeds

Funny how it’s always the ‘right’ sibling that has taken the throne. What are the chances?!

PW really should have had just one child to spare the next generation this kind of toxic legacy.

But I guess it’s better than what they used to do, which was raise armies and try to kill each other 🤷‍♀️

The papers reported last summer that Megan had read the manuscript and got a few surprises and whilst you can’t believe everything the papers say, I can’t see Harry going ahead without her approval. However, he is a grown man. He wrote this and thought it was a good idea - in spite of that I do wonder about duty of care , say from the publisher? Specifically in relation to the taliban comments.So poorly judged as to be almost unbelievable.

Lampzade I don't blame Meghan. Harry is an adult. But I do believe she is enabling this behaviour.

I don’t think whatever he writes /doesn’t write in a book is the main focus - just a path to whatever comes next perhaps.

I can’t disagree. And yep - I don’t think he wanted Hollywood either

yes! He's been a prize prawn for sure but all this hating on MM is outrageous. Just supports everything that was said in the netflix doc. Harry is a product of his family first and foremost.

I thought it was interesting that the ghost author liked a post on Twitter of someone saying the book is ‘me, me, me’ - wonder if it’s an accidental like.

Harry seems to have the IQ and self-awareness of a gnat.
I wonder if (when, more likely) the Taliban take him out all the conspiracy theorists will blame the RF (hired hitman etc.) instead of his own stupidity?
To my surprise I actually find myself feeling sorry for Meghan as she must realise that she, the children and Harry woke up yesterday morning with big bulls eyes painted on their backs. The stuff about losing his virginity, frost-bitten todger etc. is vaguely amusing, albeit distasteful, but the kiil record is deadly serious stuff.

After his apache training and military training, you’d be thinking he was able to recognise coercion & avoid it.

Whilst it was 10 years ago that he was actively flying, I think it would be surprising that he could be coerced into anything.

Honestly I think Meghan is awful. She realised she was going to have to play the part of the spare's DW and didn't like it. I think the word is thrown around a bit these days but narcissistic comes to mind.

I worry for him. I think he's got googly eyes over her but when that wears off... Already signs - he looks pissed off with her half the time. That'll grow/come to the fore. Oh dear basically. Oh dear.