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I am genuinely worried for Harry's mental health now after this

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Squabbledee · 06/01/2023 23:04

Give it another week of worldwide chewing over his words and all the drama it's creating, I'm genuinely worried for Harry. How can you go anywhere and hold your head up after you've opened yourself to such ridicule? He might want an un-royal life but he is a prince non-the-less. Where's the dignity? He really, really needs help. I sincerely hope it gets it. The fallout from this won't be forgotten in a hurry. And to top it off, how can he make his family truly secure now?

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BarkAscending · 07/01/2023 12:21

SomethingOriginal2 · 07/01/2023 12:12

No he was not. His job as the spare was really to deflect anything that might be said about William. He's there to be the irresponsible, stupid boy to show how mature and sensible the future king is. The media get their attention, the royal family keep their perfect image of the ones who matter, anyone can be thrown under the bus so long as the main royals are protected.

I'll say it again and again but people think that having money and living in fancy homes means he had a good upbringing but he clearly has not been brought up well and is clearly damaged by that.

I think he's surrounded by vultures in the media and in whoever gave him this advice. I think he's desperate to get people to understand him and hear his side. I can see how it would play out in a family dynamic. The scapegoat and the golden child. No one ever wants to hear the scapegoats explanations or feelings.

But anyone could have told him that his book was going to be picked apart and everything that could be used against him would be. But it's horrible to watch.

I feel sick for him seeing how he's being ripped apart. I don't think he is a bad man at all.

I agree with this.

Especially this bit. I'll say it again and again but people think that having money and living in fancy homes means he had a good upbringing but he clearly has not been brought up well and is clearly damaged by that

He's behaving appallingly, but he clearly has a point that he was brought up in an institution and he wants a family.

Saying it was all fine till Meghan came along is clearly nonsense. It clearly wasn't. But being with her seems to have been the catalyst to bring so much pain and resentment and trauma, to the forefront and has led to everything we have seen since.

Swissmountains · 07/01/2023 12:21

When I saw Meghan do her over enthusiastic curtsey that she did for the first time in front of the Queen on Netflix, what I saw was total contempt.

I wonder if Meghan hated the royal family all along. They painted the commonwealth to be Empire 0.2 when it is nothing of the sort, and we can see real hatred that is checkered throughout the Netflix documentaries.

What she has done is harness the contempt and hatred and weaponise one of their own to hit the RF straight in the heart. She knew what this book would do, in the same way she knew the Oprah interview would cause grave harm and blow up. She is totally gunning for them, and it feels far more personal than a row about hormones and bridesmaid dresses.

I wonder what we will learn in the future about the real motivations for this latest bloody attack on the royal family. Something feels very off to me, and has for a long time. At first I thought it was just bitterness, rivalry but now it feels more, bigger, nastier and far more than just a family fall out.

Tyler's words were especially telling.

snapdragon12 · 07/01/2023 12:21

and yes, I agree. Every press call, especially the ones they did as W, K and H, looked happy, relaxed, comfortable. H seemed fine prior to M. But it's probably considered racist to make this observation.

Rollingaroundinmud · 07/01/2023 12:26

I love Harry and Meghan and since he's been with her I have more respect for the Royal family. It will take a lot to break the back of RACISM but they have to do it while appeasing the public at the same time🙄They need to get paid to.

The rest of the world doesn't feel the same about the British Monarchy and colonialism.

Swissmountains · 07/01/2023 12:26

BarkAscending · 07/01/2023 12:21

I agree with this.

Especially this bit. I'll say it again and again but people think that having money and living in fancy homes means he had a good upbringing but he clearly has not been brought up well and is clearly damaged by that

He's behaving appallingly, but he clearly has a point that he was brought up in an institution and he wants a family.

Saying it was all fine till Meghan came along is clearly nonsense. It clearly wasn't. But being with her seems to have been the catalyst to bring so much pain and resentment and trauma, to the forefront and has led to everything we have seen since.

Harry was deeply loved by his mother and father.
He was idolised by his grandmother and grandfather
He had a strong and loving brother and a really lovely crowd of friends.

Forget the money and status, when you strip back Harry's life before twelve it was idyllic and full of country fun and safety. Yes the press were annoying but it was a small part of his life.

The loss of his mother was the turning point, and his pain and grief has now been exploited by LA sharks looking to make some serious money on the back of his misery. Meghan led him there, he would not be there at all if it were not for her. The rest, is now history - or history in the making.

RedToothBrush · 07/01/2023 12:27

Harry has access to the best mental health support in the world if he wants it

He is instead picking wacko on call to act as yes men to his grievances rather than actually addressing them

If he wants to have a happy family life that remains within his ability to achieve. Pandering to the media will never allow that. Again that's an active choice.

Ultimately the people he is hanging out with and he's taking advice off clearly are milking him and don't have his interests at heart.

He has to go through a process to work this out.

Little of this is now about his disfunctional family. not at this point

Rollingaroundinmud · 07/01/2023 12:31

Swissmountains · 07/01/2023 12:21

When I saw Meghan do her over enthusiastic curtsey that she did for the first time in front of the Queen on Netflix, what I saw was total contempt.

I wonder if Meghan hated the royal family all along. They painted the commonwealth to be Empire 0.2 when it is nothing of the sort, and we can see real hatred that is checkered throughout the Netflix documentaries.

What she has done is harness the contempt and hatred and weaponise one of their own to hit the RF straight in the heart. She knew what this book would do, in the same way she knew the Oprah interview would cause grave harm and blow up. She is totally gunning for them, and it feels far more personal than a row about hormones and bridesmaid dresses.

I wonder what we will learn in the future about the real motivations for this latest bloody attack on the royal family. Something feels very off to me, and has for a long time. At first I thought it was just bitterness, rivalry but now it feels more, bigger, nastier and far more than just a family fall out.

Tyler's words were especially telling.

Do you know what you're talking about?
Is that your educated guess?

Reigateforever · 07/01/2023 12:32

He has left both himself and his family open to a Taliban reprisal.
A reason for the taxpayer to pay for their protection.

WarmWillowLeafy · 07/01/2023 12:35

RedDiamond · 07/01/2023 00:08

MM is using this all as evidence as to why she has to divorce him and have custody of the children. (In the next 2 years...)

I agree, she has the fame and children, doesn’t need him, and he’s made an absolute fool of himself.
Megan doesn’t like family, she made that clear with her own. It’s such a shame that he got mixed up with her.

greennavy · 07/01/2023 12:40

Save your energy. Harry doesn't need it. There are bigger things to worry about in the world

Swissmountains · 07/01/2023 12:40

Rollingaroundinmud · 07/01/2023 12:31

Do you know what you're talking about?
Is that your educated guess?

I am not sure what your question is, but I believe Meghan had strong views about the royal family and the common wealth - and her feelings were not positive or conducive when she married into such an age old aristo family.

Do I think she had any intention of making a go of things? No. Not a chance. Do I think she has monetised their attacks? Of course.
Do I believe she has many grudges and settling scores well beyond the silly cat fights? Quite possibly.

Meghan is the biggest living narc I have ever seen, I believe she has made it her mission to bring the royal family down, and settle scores. I expect things to get much, much worse not better.

We have two more volumes to go...and then Meghan's memoirs 'in her own words'

They have barely got started.

greennavy · 07/01/2023 12:41

I feel sorry for his kids

Rollingaroundinmud · 07/01/2023 12:44

Swissmountains
"I am not sure what your question is, but I believe Meghan had strong views about the royal family and the common wealth - and her feelings were not positive or conducive when she married into such an age old aristo family."

Would it have been easier if Harry married a white woman instead?

FedUpWithEverything123 · 07/01/2023 12:47

This is ridiculous. Imagine your husband or partner doing something silly and everyone blaming YOU for it as though he were not a full grown adult man.

I clearly blame them both. But it is undeniable that Harry seemed happy until he met Meghan. And, he is clearly a vulnerable, damaged individual. So yes, it certainly seems to me that Meghan took advantage of that and exploited him. Of course he is ultimately responsible for his actions, but she plays a big part in how he now acts.

Jean67 · 07/01/2023 12:51

Someone said that Harry wanted a family, not an institution. But I distinctly remember Harry saying, I think when he and Meghan got engaged, that his family were the family she never had. He changes like the wind.

Crimeismymiddlename · 07/01/2023 12:52

I think he is perfectly fine mentally. It’s most probable that he thinks all this is great as he is getting attention, money and his family being upset.
He would have been told from a very young age the risks of exposing his private life, and that of his family and exactly why they never comment on anything.
Sadly it’s obvious that he is more of a child than a man and they did a lot to protect him from the media.
Netflix and all the other media outlets that gave them multiple millions for what they expected to be entertainment need to get the moneys worth as well, and in the next few years will need to ether take legal action to get the money back, or H&M start fulfilling the contracts. It won’t be the latter.

lollipoprainbow · 07/01/2023 12:52

Jean67 · 07/01/2023 12:51

Someone said that Harry wanted a family, not an institution. But I distinctly remember Harry saying, I think when he and Meghan got engaged, that his family were the family she never had. He changes like the wind.

They were at the start before they realised she was getting a little bit too popular and was put back in her box so as not to overshadow perfect Kate.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 07/01/2023 12:53

If he really told Charles that Meghan’s upkeep is minimal because she could make her own clothes as reported in the papers today, then he’s clearly a very confused man.

Squisageandmosh · 07/01/2023 12:56

Swissmountains · 07/01/2023 12:12

What filter of hate?

The new reports are simply repeating what Harry has written himself! They have not, from the papers I have read, even commented about it - they don't need to. People can read and come to their own conclusions.

Don't forget Meghan was suing and demanding for 'privacy' as he husband sat in the same room literally writing his book! With everything it contains. There was no need to go into such spiteful detail, no need to drag so many through the mud. The drugs, sex, frozen knob. wtaf?! No one needed to know Charles has a special teddy. It is breathtaking because it is so so nasty and so personal, and private.

They have shown the world what hypocrisy looks like.
And poor judgement and mental health
And betrayal of your own family for cash. It is horrendous.

What filter of hate?

Are you serious? Have you ever read a tabloid?

If you have ever been involved with a news story personally, you will know how reporters distort the truth to sensationalise and exploit. For profit.

The papers are far from just reporting Harry’s words! They are putting a negative spin on all of the stories!

I haven’t read the book so I am waiting to see what H actually said but I saw a clip of one of the interviews and when he mentioned the Taliban dead, he was being reflective, saying that modern machinery don’t allow you to ignore the figures, even if you wanted to.

Thats very different to “whey hey I killed xx amount” or bragging or boasting as has been reported.

Jean67 · 07/01/2023 12:57

I still think that Meghan just wanted to do the nice bits of royalty. The Disney Princess version. Attending glamorous events and premieres wearing free haute couture and jewels. The half in, half out model where they could do what they chose and take money from whoever they chose to, becoming incredibly rich in the process. When the Queen said no (understandably) Harry would have been terrified of losing Meghan and what we are seeing now is the outpouring of anguish and anger that people stopped him. Remember 'what Meghan wants, Meghan gets'. He's lashing out because he's scared. And I bet she's still furious, and that's what's driving this. I say this as a victim of a narcissist.

MarshaMelrose · 07/01/2023 12:59

lollipoprainbow · 07/01/2023 11:53

^ this, it's awful. The press are gunning for him and ripping him apart all the while fawning over Kate and William. It's shocking.

If William had written that same book , would you both be so concerned and protective. No, you wouldn't because you don't like William. You're only saying this because you like Harry and Meghan. If it had had the exact same content, and it had been well-received, you'd have been laughing and sneering at Charles and William

Give Harry some respect. He's a grown man and he's written a book that he's proud of. It's not the newspapers' fault if social media have found it to be a dud and him to be a spoilt whinger. He always talks about everyone (as in RF) having to be accountable and responsible for their actions, well, now its time for Harry to do just that.

Bideshi · 07/01/2023 13:00

Rollingaroundinmud · 07/01/2023 12:44

Swissmountains
"I am not sure what your question is, but I believe Meghan had strong views about the royal family and the common wealth - and her feelings were not positive or conducive when she married into such an age old aristo family."

Would it have been easier if Harry married a white woman instead?

Well not if they had the same agenda, no.

spanieleyes · 07/01/2023 13:00

I am confused by the juxtaposition of " she was hated as everyone was racist against her" and " she was more popular than the rest of the royal family"

eglantine7 · 07/01/2023 13:00

I have seen so many therapists give the most awful advice to.close friends with issues related back to childhood within the family. I do question who tf a therapist is to have such power.
I do think Harry needs support/ help/ concern - the family is dysfunctional ( we knew that when Diana was alive ) and yet have the most immaculate image. I have no questions about how his wife was treated by the media and RF pr and subsequently the British public but Harry's quest to put it all out there to the world is really not going to help him heal.

Pr1mr0se · 07/01/2023 13:01

He has not been exploited really he's an adult who is being paid very well for not very much work.

I don't think Megan let it all happen, she's as much on board with the gravy train as he is.

Yes he definitely needs psychological support for various childhood traumas but he's not being taken advantage of at all. He doesn't understand that there is such a thing as a private life and private things that you just don't need to air in public. Although it''s possible he might just be being pushed by his publishers to make these revelations and with his background maybe he finds it hard to know when to say enough is enough.

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