I am genuinely worried for Harry's mental health now after this

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Give it another week of worldwide chewing over his words and all the drama it's creating, I'm genuinely worried for Harry. How can you go anywhere and hold your head up after you've opened yourself to such ridicule? He might want an un-royal life but he is a prince non-the-less. Where's the dignity? He really, really needs help. I sincerely hope it gets it. The fallout from this won't be forgotten in a hurry. And to top it off, how can he make his family truly secure now?

Of course there is. You have forgotten the old adage of 'When a man marries his mistress, he creates a vacancy' .
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And not forgetting, the ridiculously named,
Marchioness of Cholmondeley...
PH has the 2 most senior members of the RH by their proverbials..

All the above are assumptions and not my views..........

The media are not doing anything awful, he has handed over this on a platter.

What do you expect them not to report it??

Unfortunately he has created the hate and ridicule, and in fact I would go further he has also sadly put the navy, army and military at risk, his own children are now at risk and the whole country is now at risk from a terrorist attack thanks to his ill advised body count comments.

No one made him write this book, or do the interviews or cash in on their family misery. He is clearly a very ill man, and as many of us said before going to the US and being surrounded by sharks that would take full advantage of his vulnerability is the worst thing he could have done. He is alone and in trouble, and yes Meghan clearly does not care as long as the next instalment of cash rolls in. It is terrible and tragic but not the fault of the media, and clearly the RF have been 'keeping a lid' on him for years. None of us knew just how ill he was before this.

Always done to him? What a load of rubbish! Harry was one of the most popular and loved royals right up until he and Meghan started complaining about everything, which was several months after their lovely, happy wedding.

It’s clear William and Kate weren’t at all sure about Meghan and felt the marriage was rushed. Turns out they were absolutely right to be concerned and cautious.

The cycle will continue because I really fail to see how his children will not be very damaged by all of this.

Did Harry and Meghan not stop and think for a second what they were doing to their children? No.

Yes it might be parental narcissism at its finest, but stripping them of all family support and care, midnight flits to different countries must have been very frightening and then force feeding the global media such bile and hatred - using their images, birth, special moments as fodder to be consumed?
The children's whole existence has become cash cow material.

This is all going to come back and bite Harry and Meghan so hard.

Harry has the Spencer family - do wonder if maybe they will quietly step in and try to have a word. They are reasonably neutral in all this. They do seem able to fly under the radar..

Interesting to look back on the interview Harry did got his 21st - where he specifically says Camilla is not a wicked step mother.

Interview was sept 2005 so a few months after camilla and Charles had married

m.youtube.com/watch?v=VIz-MwPzmQg

It's awful the way the media are going through his book and cherry picking the bits that make him look bad, and slowly letting them out one by one so it's a constant barrage of hate and ridicule

The flithy media are what they are, but nobody was forcing Harry to co-write this book. There wouldn't even necessarily be a problem with him producing a book, but the choice of content on this one is all on him and he'll have to accept the consequences of those choices whether his fans like it or not

That said, some of us are still hoping there's some kind of hoax involved over the reported contents, but we'll find out on Tuesday ...

Harry has absolutely chosen to do this - silly silly boy - and I say boy because he clearly has the emotional intelligence of a child. No one ‘stole’ this information in some underhand way. He put it out there, willingly. If he is suffering from issues then his wife, as his closest kin, should have stepped in and sought help. But she hasn’t. What really irks me is he keeps lecturing the rest of us on how we should behave and then does the opposite himself, hardly likely to garner respect is it. He could absolutely do with learning to #bekind rather than expecting it for his sole benefit.

I completely agree.
And when he’s done she will spit him out and find another victim.

Absolutely this! Meghan dared to sue and the DM are gunning for her and Harry.

He’s not been wise to burn his boats but all of the contents are being brought to us through a filter of tabloid hate.

If MM truly cared about him and loved him, she would not have done the Netflix programmes with him. She was intent on public self-justification.

They are both utterly incapable of living a quiet life and now have nothing left to cash in on other than their ex-royal status. What they really wanted was all the copious benefits, privileges and protections of being part of the Royal Family without any of the, admittedly extreme, inconveniences. Yes, of course the whole institution is deeply dysfunctional and unhealthy, but you simply can’t have all the benefits of a gilded cage without the imprisonment. They should either have fucked off and shut up, and accepted the loss of all the luxuries and privileges Harry was used to (because they are a massive part of the dysfunctionality), or stayed put and shut up. What they have done instead is come back to the cage and tried to blow it up, whilst sitting on top of the dynamite.

Seconded.

He's selfish, greedy, self-obsessed and beyond stupid.

He really thinks that people will take his side and protect him against his brother - and he can't see that throwing serving troops under the bus is going to turn public opinion against him even if nothing else does.

He is lighting blue touchpaper but keeping himself well away from the fall out. I don't have an ounce of sympathy for him.

Not an ounce.

you simply can’t have all the benefits of a gilded cage without the imprisonment.

Dead right!

Get a grip. He hasn’t put the bloody military at risk.

No he was not. His job as the spare was really to deflect anything that might be said about William. He's there to be the irresponsible, stupid boy to show how mature and sensible the future king is. The media get their attention, the royal family keep their perfect image of the ones who matter, anyone can be thrown under the bus so long as the main royals are protected.

I'll say it again and again but people think that having money and living in fancy homes means he had a good upbringing but he clearly has not been brought up well and is clearly damaged by that.

I think he's surrounded by vultures in the media and in whoever gave him this advice. I think he's desperate to get people to understand him and hear his side. I can see how it would play out in a family dynamic. The scapegoat and the golden child. No one ever wants to hear the scapegoats explanations or feelings.

But anyone could have told him that his book was going to be picked apart and everything that could be used against him would be. But it's horrible to watch.

I feel sick for him seeing how he's being ripped apart. I don't think he is a bad man at all.

What filter of hate?

The new reports are simply repeating what Harry has written himself! They have not, from the papers I have read, even commented about it - they don't need to. People can read and come to their own conclusions.

Don't forget Meghan was suing and demanding for 'privacy' as he husband sat in the same room literally writing his book! With everything it contains. There was no need to go into such spiteful detail, no need to drag so many through the mud. The drugs, sex, frozen knob. wtaf?! No one needed to know Charles has a special teddy. It is breathtaking because it is so so nasty and so personal, and private.

They have shown the world what hypocrisy looks like.
And poor judgement and mental health
And betrayal of your own family for cash. It is horrendous.

Well you should read the telegraph and other papers that have whole columns dedicated to the increased risk now to the country, to the military and to Harry and his own family.

You clearly know nothing about terrorism and inciting violence.

I too am very worried for Harry's mental health.
He has done this to himself - but I'm starting to feel sorry for him (and I am definitely not a fan).
He seemed happy, with good relationships with Charles, Camilla, William and Kate, and reporters, until he met Meghan - it seems to me that she has created and nurtured all this anger and discontent in him.
I don't know how they're both going to cope with all the negative publicity they have brought on themselves, if they could barely cope with the minimal criticism they received that apparently drove them to leave the UK. And their poor poor children, growing up in the shadow of their parents' narcisism and foolishness.

Intense anger and bitterness can cause you to go mad so, although it’s clear he has issues, did his poor mental health cause the bitterness or did the bitterness deteriorated the mental health? One minute I feel sorry for him, the next I can imagine a queue of people, in the vain of the spoof film Airplane, lining up to give him a smack.

This.

No-one behaves in this colossally self-destructive way, and apparently so unable to comprehend that it is self -destructive, without being very damaged.

Its like watching his trauma act out in real time. Its painful.

That Colonel quoted in the papers is right, he really needs someone to put their arm around him, and not someone doing it for profit.

Exactly this.
the media is once again controlling and manipulating the narrative. And y’all are lapping it up.

This is ridiculous. Imagine your husband or partner doing something silly and everyone blaming YOU for it as though he were not a full grown adult man.

The derogatory way she ridiculed meeting the Queen for the first time during the documentary lost her my respect entirely.

I watched it and thought she wasn't being derogatory but self-deprecating. Funny how recollections may vary.

the media is controlling the narrative?
No. Harry is controlling the narrative by writing cringe inducing, ridiculous man child rantings, directly quoted from his book! Direct quotes from the actual source is
not media control.

Various senior military figures have publicly said in the press that he has. Random Mumsnet member says he hasn’t.