I am genuinely worried for Harry's mental health now after this

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Give it another week of worldwide chewing over his words and all the drama it's creating, I'm genuinely worried for Harry. How can you go anywhere and hold your head up after you've opened yourself to such ridicule? He might want an un-royal life but he is a prince non-the-less. Where's the dignity? He really, really needs help. I sincerely hope it gets it. The fallout from this won't be forgotten in a hurry. And to top it off, how can he make his family truly secure now?

I don’t think rumship is talking about mental health support. I think she’s talking protection from physical danger (eg a Taliban or extremest reprisal) which has been heightened by what he has chosen to write in his book.

This 100% the way he talked about killing 25 taliban and looked on it like chess pieces is an absolute disgrace. Yes there were killings for a reason but no one in the armed forces tot up the number like some sort of competition. He's put not only himself but the country at risk of reprisals.

H lacks any kind of self-awareness or ability to 'read the room'. Compared to what's happening in the world at the moment his 'troubles' amount to diddly-squat and some of them (at least) are self-inflicted. It's a pity he can't find something else to do with his time. He's made a complete p$$t of himself by saying that his brother and sister-in-law encouraged him to wear a nazi costume. If he's an example of people who've been in the army then I despair. "Boo hoo, brother made me do it, not my fault".... Pathetic snowflake-speak.

I think anyone that actually cares for this poor man needs to the talking therapies. He is clearly very ill.

What is also painfully obvious to me now is that Meghan does not have his back whatsoever, she has knowingly allowed him to walk into an even bigger car crash than before - I accept many believe she is simply cashing in - but there is no way on God's earth she is unaware of poorly he is, and she knew this would end badly. Her silence is deafening.

Harry is being exploited by everyone around him, ffs someone must still be able to reach him and save him from himself. I feel like I already know the ending and it is really really sad to watch.

Yes I totally agree.

She wasn't a successful woman before Harry. She was a 2nd rate actress in a mediocre show. Even in America she wasn't well known.
Inviting celebs that she didn't even know to her wedding was her way of crashing into Hollywood circles. I think that has always been her objective and she is ruthless about achieving that.
Harry is fast becoming useless to her. It will be interesting to see what happens next.

** I think anyone that actually cares for this man should be getting him professional help beyond talking therapies.

Swiss "I think anyone that actually cares for this poor man needs to the talking therapies. He is clearly very ill.

I know there's a bit missing from your text but I think therapy has done him no good at all, it might have made it worse?

Oh cross post

What I am doubting is that his ghostwriter was involved all the way through the project. Moehringer is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, he’s covered the conflict in South Sudan amongst other things. If he had been actively involved would he have left Harry’s kill number in or left the reference to Taliban being chess pieces as it stood? He surely would have known the risks of such incendiary writing? It’s hard to know how well the book is written in that we have only seen excerpts badly translated from a Spanish copy, but if Moehringer was involved throughout, it should be well written and not just a garbled mess of confessions and grievances.

I never understood why a successful woman like Meghan would sacrifice so much for love. I imagine she must be regretting it now.

Come off it, she's gained the mega wealth, global fame and access to the 'elites' she wanted. Apart from one work colleague who is an avid tv watcher I don't know anyone who'd even heard of MM pre-Harry.

Yes he is a pampered man child, but no one trashes their own reputation and everything of any value to this degree, regardless of a lack of intelligence.
What we are witnessing is so extreme, such an act of total self harm - of course it is rooted in very poor mental health, a lack of support from professional and trusted system that should have intervened long ago.

I don't think he has the capacity at the moment.
I feel quite sick watching this all play out because he is clearly very unwell, and some bloodsuckers are using him for a quick buck, and what do they care that his life is crashing down. He is never going to get past this - such is the magnitude and the scale of his downfall.

Haven't read all the comments, but I don't think he has any good friends or advisors around him. All the people he and Meghan have brought in are HER team - US types who lap up the celeb gossip stories and the $$$ it brings in.
I genuinely think he is not very academically bright - perhaps even has some sort of SpLD with makes him vulnerable. You can see when he is interviewed that he is in panic mode, perhaps struggling to process the question and knowing what to say that's 'right'. Apparently in the past he has had panic attacks about speaking in public. Being interviewed for a book launch will be a nightmare for him (and his publishers should know that, and have planned accordingly).

His strengths are more outdoorsy/physical and in relationships/ building camaraderie etc. The RF will have known/ established this, and that's why they encouraged his 'work' with e.g. the military, Invictus Games, Africa etc.
Perhaps Harry has interpreted this as the RF being controlling, when actually they were really protecting him - from making a fool of himself, as we have now seen.

Oh Lord..

This is morbid but I would not let him be anywhere near a deadly weapon (the ones they use for hunting) near his RF.

And some people don't watch Elementary, or Whitechapel. I haven't seen Breaking Bad.

There's a ton of great TV out there and I go to Q&A events - or I did when I could be arsed to go into central London - about my favourite shows. Ironically, I was at the screening for Tom Bradby's drama about the Great Fire of London and asked him a question!

Then you tell people and they say "who? What?"

So these things end up being niche. But Meghan seemed to me to have a lovely life and I couldn't see why she'd marry into the RF unless she really loved him.

Alternative is to get power - well, she certainly can't have signed off on this book then, she will know it makes him look bad to say that about his time in the army.

Yes, my main point which somehow erased emma, Harry needs proper medical intervention. Talking therapies clearly were not enough, and could have made things worse.

If he has bipolar, complex PTSD or other many other serious conditions he needs to be assessed properly, medicated almost certainly and under the care of a mental health team. A US based therapist telling him to live his best life is nowhere near enough.

The scale of his self harm has stunned the world. I am worried about him.
I hope someone can reach him, I can't imagine what this feels like for him.

He has always found the world publicity so triggering what must this feel like, even if he was the one that created it. He has created the same conditions that cause him the most anxiety.

I hope the Royal family can rise above the anger and the mud slinging and bring him home.

I feel sorry for his children when they start googling Daddy in a few years' time

You're not alone in that
It's really rather odd for someone who talks so much about his own trauma to risk yet more for his kids, but that's just one more judgement-free decision to go with all the rest

It's awful the way the media are going through his book and cherry picking the bits that make him look bad, and slowly letting them out one by one so it's a constant barrage of hate and ridicule.

It's the same thing they've always done to him. And I'm amazed so many people are joining in and can't see how controlled and manipulative the media are being in brewing up hate for him.

I feel ever so sorry for him, its just his mother all over again.

He's been totally wrecked by his upbringing as the royal scapegoat.

When Princess Margaret learnt her sister was going to end up Queen one day her response was 'you poor thing'. She knew that her sisters life was mapped out from start to finish with little room for manoeuvre, she was the 'spare' and appeared to be quite happy with that.

Where on earth did you get this from? Bears no resemblance to reality at all

As I understand it, he had to leave because he couldn't just stay in the army at the rank of Captain forever. In the armed forces you need to progress and Harry is too thick to pass the exams that would've resulted in progression, so honourable discharge was the only option. However, he could've done what William did and use the skills he had as a helicopter pilot to do something else useful like work in air-sea rescue or air ambulance, etc. Or he could've used his considerable contacts as a royal prince and involved himself in meaningful charity work, as he was expected to do. As a royal of his fame he could, as other PPs have pointed out, done anything he wanted. He could've moved to Africa, or at least spent meaningful time there working on charitable endeavours, if that's what he wanted. The Queen herself told Meghan she could continue to act, if she wanted to, alongside turning up in a pretty frock every now and again as a member of the RF. They could've done anything they wanted! But this, this shitshow is what they chose.

You'd think he'd want to protect his children. Give them privacy and help them to thrive.
Nope.

She wasn't a successful woman before Harry. She was a 2nd rate actress in a mediocre show.

And that show was coming to an end! What is rarely discussed is that Meghan at age 37 was about to be unemployed and had nothing else in the pipeline when she met Harry. This was not a woman who had an abundance of tempting options. Harry was the only option on the table.

^ this, it's awful. The press are gunning for him and ripping him apart all the while fawning over Kate and William. It's shocking.

My DH was a milder version of this in his first job. His parents are (IMO) awful and dysfunctional and see him merely as an extension of themselves. So although they behaved awfully towards him (physically and emotionally abusive), they also wanted him to succeed. At school and university, he managed to somehow get an influential member of staff to have his back and they genuinely cared about him too and protect him when he acted in a stupid way sometimes (which he admits he did) as he’s actually a lovely, caring, damaged-by-childhood person (again IMO). It was a genuine shock to him that people in his first job would have been happy for him to fail if it furthered their agenda. It did take him a surprisingly long time to learn!!