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I am genuinely worried for Harry's mental health now after this

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Squabbledee · 06/01/2023 23:04

Give it another week of worldwide chewing over his words and all the drama it's creating, I'm genuinely worried for Harry. How can you go anywhere and hold your head up after you've opened yourself to such ridicule? He might want an un-royal life but he is a prince non-the-less. Where's the dignity? He really, really needs help. I sincerely hope it gets it. The fallout from this won't be forgotten in a hurry. And to top it off, how can he make his family truly secure now?

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Hellybelly84 · 07/01/2023 10:44

Agree, I look at him and think he looks like a broken man in every interview. He was extremely concerned about his family’s security before this all kicked off, now he’s made himself even more of a huge target for extremists. He needs to end this publicity game now.

I was pro them going to the US and having the freedom to live outside what he was born into and do whatever they wanted to do. Its sad he’s decided to make millions selling his deepest family secrets instead and not sure how he can easily move on.

Bedazzled22 · 07/01/2023 10:46

I think sadly he’s heading for a breakdown. The Oprah interview was bad enough - not watched netflix and wont read book - but this has dropped down to a whole new level.

Appalling to talk about his military career in this way. How could any sane person say something and in print which puts their family at risk of reprisals? I can’t understand it.

Obviously loosing your mum as a child is the worst thing that can happen to someone and so I sympathise there.

I cant see why it wouldnt be great to be the spare. All that wealth & privilege and the freedom to do as you like!

Jakeyachey · 07/01/2023 10:46

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 07/01/2023 10:19

I think this is the crux of it, really. He wants the royals to apologise, he's already criticised them for making "no effort to reconcile".
I read that they thought the Oprah interview would make the royals regretful and apologetic, but as that didn't happen, they had to push more

I think in his head he's written the script that he'll say how being a member of the RF has damaged him to the point he had to leave and they'll be so remorseful that they'll want to apologise and reconcile and make everything better. Unfortunately the RF doesn't have a copy of his script so what they see and do is quite different.

The royal family apologising vindicates harry and Meghan. It is the royal family saying harry and Meghan are right and we are a bunch of malicious arseholes. That’s why they want it, they need the royal family to step in and take responsibility for what harry and Meghan have done, as they have fucked it so bad.

EmmaEmerald · 07/01/2023 10:51

Bedazzled Netflix is fine. I always liked Meghan, neutral on Harry. Harry doesn't say anything mad in Netflix. his comments in what the RF should have done differently in dealing with the press are totally fair.

so this seems like a bolt from the blue, but I don't follow media. I mostly watched Netflix because I never understood why a successful woman like Meghan would sacrifice so much for love. I imagine she must be regretting it now.

Herewegoagain84 · 07/01/2023 10:55

It’s getting boring that as soon as MM is mentioned that someone will jump in with a claim of misogyny. Of course she has a role in this - PH’s rhetoric is all about how he’s changed so much since meeting Meghan and everything he does is with her in mind. She has fully participated in the interviews / Netflix series / and now the book. The derogatory way she ridiculed meeting the Queen for the first time during the documentary lost her my respect entirely. Everything she is currently making money from is her husband’s incredibly traumatic past and mental instability. She has a huge role to play in this, and it’s nothing to do with the fact she’s a woman.

TheCallOfTheMild · 07/01/2023 10:55

Redblanky · 07/01/2023 10:12

I don't understand why, if they wanted out of public life, they don't just live off her acting income and his mother's money. They were never going to be on the breadline.

Because they never wanted out of public life. Just another one of their lies.

RoseMadderAsHell · 07/01/2023 10:56

I really hope the RF can continue to maintain their silence.
Any kind of response (apart from the Queen's perfect "recollections may vary") would be pointless.

Herewegoagain84 · 07/01/2023 10:59

And also the sheer arrogance that MM has to think she can bring down an historical institution (whether it should exist or not, being an entirely separate argument).

DuchessofSandwich · 07/01/2023 10:59

eyope · 07/01/2023 04:50

Harry is just stupid and hot headed and desperate for money that's his own. Atm MM is the only one with a career, and Harry has realised he has no skills or talent to do anything other than write a scandalous tell all. The only worthy job he did, in the military, he's completely shat on them and what it stands for by using sensitive kill information for commercial gain. That disgusts me.

I don't think MM has anything to do with it. If anything, I hope she realises this is a man who will burn everyone and anything when pissed off, and that could include her one day. He could start blaming her one day for his mistakes like he is his brother. His vindictiveness is scary tbh and if I were his wife, I'd want out of his toxic shit show. I wouldn't be surprised if she eventually realises he's not at her level intellectually or aspirationally and isn't qualified to do anything not leveraging his family. He doesn't strike me as someone who'd listen to anyone including her when his mind is made up.

I also controversially think he uses her as an excuse to get out of the RF, played it to show himself as a loving, devoted husband. When in reality he's wanted to get his own against them for a long time and MM gave him the perfect cover. He isn't this innocent, manipulated lamb people seem to think - between them he's the one with far more privilege and power and the knowledge of how to manipulate to get what you want. I hope she divorces him eventually and leaves him to fend for himself and realise no one is to blame for his shitty choices in life.

I also think it's Harry more than Meghan. It seems like her book was full of self love and his book is full of hate. Surely that's telling about who they really are?

MoscowMules · 07/01/2023 11:01

I really don't get what's bad about being the spare in this day and age?!

Harry was still offered the same schooling, the same opportunities, a little bit more freedom and no "monarch" responsibility hanging over his head.

Wasn't like they locked him in the tower through fear he would lay claim to the crown!!

But even in day to day life any of us who are the youngest of two know your elder sibling was/is "the golden child" 😂

There is just shy of 2 years between me and my elder brother, fucker was the prized possession of my father's eye being a boy, my mothers precious first born, he got away with everything, and when we were young kids he'd win all the physical fights, I would also get teased or wound up daily by him. 😂

I laugh about it now, me and my brother have a good strong close sibling relationship as adults.

Maybe Harry is not so much angry about being "the spare" but actually angry he's the younger sibling, maybe he needs to speak to tigers who were the youngest of two 😂

WisteriaLodge · 07/01/2023 11:01

CarPoor · 07/01/2023 00:43

He shouldn't feel hard done by because he's incredibly privelaged, but I think it's natural to feel jealous

He's grown up heavily in the eye of the media. Way more than probably previous royals. Hes been expected to perform to the public as a royal and behave in a certain way from birth. His mother died very publicy and the funeral was broadcast to half the world, and again he was expected to perform. The only person who could even slightly understand is William, but then his brother is going to be King and Harry is just the spare, essentially a minor royal.

I think I would be insanely angry in that scenario, and yes jealous. I also highly doubt Charles is a warm and loving father. There's a lot of pressure put on them from the family from very early on. And I'm sure previous siblings have felt the same but luckily no daily mail or Oprah to document everything and allow them to publish stupid books.

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No Daily Mail back then? Are you being serious? The DM has been around since 1886 fgs. I'm old enough to remember the Charles and Diana years, the mud slinging, the affairs, the rumours where all played out in the press and it wasn't pretty...oh and I think Oprah started her talk show way back in the 1980s.

CuriousMama · 07/01/2023 11:03

RedDiamond · 07/01/2023 00:08

MM is using this all as evidence as to why she has to divorce him and have custody of the children. (In the next 2 years...)

This

trampoline123 · 07/01/2023 11:05

I thought the same. Something else must be going on for H&M to keep on with this.

It's really sad actually.

Lavenderflower · 07/01/2023 11:05

Father like son. Harry is following the step of his parents. Both the King and Princess Diana have aired out their dirty laundry. I glad that Harry has exposed William.

Robin233 · 07/01/2023 11:09

@MoscowMules
Not sure about the eldest always being the golden child - I certainly wasn't.
But sibling rivalry is an whole different thread.
I think the golden child can be anywhere in the pecking order.
Maybe William was the golden child , but there is no excuse for the way Harry is carrying on.
The bitterness he is carrying will consume him.

Talaforniababe · 07/01/2023 11:10

MM has been very clever. Harry is clearly not very intelligent. She got the kids, now she can milk him for a few years before getting rid and making millions. No moral judgement. I don't feel sorry for any of them. He's a stupid man, so he was a sitting duck.

jollygreenpea · 07/01/2023 11:12

I haven't read the full thread, as there are so many of them it's hard to keep up.

I think Harry should be sectioned in the not to distant future for his own good. Hopefully he will get the help he desperately needs, because the therapy he has had so far doesn't seem to have worked.

I believe Meghan came with a plan, no way was she going to do any boring jobs the Royals have to do, a wet miserable afternoon opening something in a yuck part of the country.
No she wanted the fame that being a Z list actress could never have brought, she wanted to make as much money as possible, she wants the respect that she thinks she deserves.

Harry was her meal ticket.

I bet she has already got divorce lawyers working on her case. Harry's Achilles heel will be the children, they will be turned into weapons.

Meghan will go for full custody stating Harry's metal health, he has more than done he's bit here to help her.

The next ones will be the Royals, she will use the children to keep her title and make them pay for all the expenses. I imagine this is in the plan whether the Royals go for it remains to be seen.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 07/01/2023 11:13

@Shodan , I’m afraid you’re right, and I’m sorry to have to think so, because there was a huge amount of goodwill towards the pair of them when they married, and Harry was once a popular member of the RF. I had honestly thought that she’d be a breath of fresh air within the RF.

chocolateflapjacks · 07/01/2023 11:16

As much as I think they're idiots, I really hope they are in love and don't end up divorced. That would turn this whole thing too dark for me

Jean67 · 07/01/2023 11:18

I don't understand where Doria is in all this. I refuse to believe that the warmth the Royal family, particularly Prince Charles, showed her at the wedding wasn't genuine. Why isn't she talking to Harry and Meghan about how fortunate they are and moving forward? Mind you, narcissists don't listen to anyone except themselves so she may have decided to keep quiet.

MoscowMules · 07/01/2023 11:18

Robin233 · 07/01/2023 11:09

@MoscowMules
Not sure about the eldest always being the golden child - I certainly wasn't.
But sibling rivalry is an whole different thread.
I think the golden child can be anywhere in the pecking order.
Maybe William was the golden child , but there is no excuse for the way Harry is carrying on.
The bitterness he is carrying will consume him.

True, for most of my peer group the eldest is "the golden child" but you are correct any child in whatever order can be that.

And yes I agree it's no excuse for his current behaviour.

The majority of us grew up and sibling rivalry became a thing if the past. As adults we realised we just wanted the best for our sibling because they were/are our sibling.

DuchessofSandwich · 07/01/2023 11:19

MintyFreshOne · 07/01/2023 08:27

The same way they have covered up William’s misdeeds

Funny how it’s always the ‘right’ sibling that has taken the throne. What are the chances?!

PW really should have had just one child to spare the next generation this kind of toxic legacy.

But I guess it’s better than what they used to do, which was raise armies and try to kill each other 🤷‍♀️

Except that it isn't. Most people acknowledge that Anne would have been the right person for the throne.

NextPrimeMinister · 07/01/2023 11:20

It's been said for years that Harry is a bit thick and easily led.

I don't think he's mentally ill in the slightest. He's surrounded by enablers who do not have his best interests at heart. Remember, he'll have grown up guided and protected by the very institution that he has now turned on.

I do feel H and M bring out the worst in each other too. So instead of saying, that necklace story makes you sound like a dick (as any decent advisor would) he's been encouraged to leave it in.

EmmaEmerald · 07/01/2023 11:24

jolly "No she wanted the fame that being a Z list actress could never have brought, she wanted to make as much money as possible, she wants the respect that she thinks she deserves."

So given you think she was a Z list actress, and making c$50k per episode, how much do you think an A list actress makes per episode?

I remember looking at her on that winter day of the engagement annoucement, thinking "you must really love him to give up your career, money, independence, Hollywood and Canada, are you sure?" She had so much going for her. I've been a cynic since the day I was born but sadly I think she really believes in love.

I think they might have done a spin off from Suits but in practical terms, the option is gone if she can't be in it?

SammyScrounge · 07/01/2023 11:24

Badger1970 · 07/01/2023 07:22

I've said all along that Harry has never been said No to, especially after Diana died. And when he was told No that he couldn't live a celeb lifestyle alongside his public facing one as a member of the RF, this is the ongoing tantrum he's having as a result...

Charles was never equipped to deal with Diana and her MH issues - and he's no better equipped to deal with his sons'. This is the consequence.

How many people do you think are equipped to deal with other people's mental health issues? Seriously?
The RF saw how.devastated Harry was after Diana's death. They rallied round. They made allowances. They indulged him. They provided the best therapy money can buy. It's what many people would do to try and help.
Maybe Charles's forbearance and willingness to take him back is a recognition of Harry's vulnerabilities.
No one deals well with mental illness in the family.