I am genuinely worried for Harry's mental health now after this

[Squabbledee]

Give it another week of worldwide chewing over his words and all the drama it's creating, I'm genuinely worried for Harry. How can you go anywhere and hold your head up after you've opened yourself to such ridicule? He might want an un-royal life but he is a prince non-the-less. Where's the dignity? He really, really needs help. I sincerely hope it gets it. The fallout from this won't be forgotten in a hurry. And to top it off, how can he make his family truly secure now?

Absolutely agree

Finding Frostbite?

it pays the bills. I doubt her podcasts are generating much income. She knows he has to do this to pay for their lifestyle.

Is this what is meant by selling your soul to the Devil...because those words are now out in the public domain forever; it's his children I feel sorry for. Who wants to know how their Dad lost his virginity?!

They've got to try and close down the thread somehow, I guess.

I think this is the crux of it, really. He wants the royals to apologise, he's already criticised them for making "no effort to reconcile".
I read that they thought the Oprah interview would make the royals regretful and apologetic, but as that didn't happen, they had to push more.

What are you doing posting on a thread while families in Afghanistan are starving to death and women are denied the right to work and study?

Have you no shame?

Sad to say, but despite all the lawsuits and bold words about not letting history repeat itself regarding what happened to his mother, I fear he has been just as naive as Diana was in thinking anyone can actually control the media to suit your own purposes. Even less so when you allegedly need to make money from the relationship and undertake projects only one step removed from "kiss and tell stories".

What's worse though is that his mother never sought to make money for herself (because she was funded directly/indirectly from private sources) but Harry has now sold his soul to the devil media (OW interview, Netflix documentary, and now the Penguin Random House book).

Is he capable of thinking of others at all ?

There's no doubt already a media hunt on to find the woman to whom he lost his virginity, does he care how this will affect her mental health ? (because even if she's never actually tracked down , she'll probably be stressed as hell worrying that she's going to be identified).
Various military people are being fairly restrained in what they are saying publicly but he's made himself and those around him targets for extremists so I think it's not unreasonable to assume they're concerned and it's being discussed/assessed, wasting valuable man hours accordingly.

He's shown himself to be a self-absorbed, whiny man-child. I suspect "the institution" against which he rails spent many years protecting his image which is why this did not become apparent years ago.

I won't waste valuable time on opining regarding his wife, she's simply not worth it.

He thinks he was only pretending to be best man at William's wedding. We all saw him go down isle with William, hand over rings, and walk back down isle with chief bridesmaid Pippa

His best man speech was also widely commented on at the time. This from Town and Country magazine.....

I don't understand why, if they wanted out of public life, they don't just live off her acting income and his mother's money. They were never going to be on the breadline.

I think that this relationship was always going to be a disaster.

A troubled, spoilt, unintelligent man with zero common sense or knowledge of any real life, protected in many ways by his family.

A manipulative, intelligent, troubled, lying woman with her eye on the main chance who spots a target and zones in.

He whines. She encourages and amplifies. He starts to believe even more in his own victimhood. A cycle of complaining and real belief that they are both hard-done-by.

I think that they will divorce in a few years and she will use all of this to springboard whatever career she has in mind. Politics, probably- the brave single mother who has overcome huge personal and marital difficulties and therefore has empathy with virtually everyone.

A generally unpleasant pair who would do far better to look around them, see the trouble the world is in and understand that they have, in fact, been very very lucky to have had such privilege.

Harry needs to ensure he is clued up on the definition of gaslighting. Because that is exactly what MM is doing to him, or about to. It started with the... "did you ever hear a man tall to a woman like that when you were a child..." She's showing the seeds.

How's he going to cope with the Taliban after him and his wife & kids if he was so freaked out by a single invisible pap on a moped on his documentary?

I don’t have any sympathy for either of them. They chose to do this and surely realised there would be some
fallout. I feel sorry for his family who have been dragged into this nonsense. If he were my brother I would be extremely angry with him and probably cut ties completely.

They could have lived many , many different versions of a fabulously comfortable, affluent life that many of us would be delighted with. Sadly she presumably saw him as a means to a world platform and immeasurable riches . They married quite quickly and she is American so it possibly took a while to dawn on her what marrying the second son, who isn't very bright, actually means in reality.

Agree

Actually I think that harry has been protected his whole life, that the palace always had his back, he has always been a loose cannon but the palace always hid it, and ensured the public image was positive. If it wasn’t his family it was the army, he was always always protected and guided

now he’s broken away no one has his back, certainly not his wife, who is only after fame and fortune, and is known for fractured relationships and a loose relationship with the truth , and certainly not her mother, who is on,y doing as Meghan wishes

now harry is on his own, no one is protecting or guiding him for the first time in his life, no one has his best interests at heart, and it’s become apparent he is easily led, has low intelligence and is generally quite clueless.

this is the first time he’s ever been without those protective arms around him, and he’s messed it up totally

I think this is the crux of it, really. He wants the royals to apologise, he's already criticised them for making "no effort to reconcile".
I read that they thought the Oprah interview would make the royals regretful and apologetic, but as that didn't happen, they had to push more

I think in his head he's written the script that he'll say how being a member of the RF has damaged him to the point he had to leave and they'll be so remorseful that they'll want to apologise and reconcile and make everything better. Unfortunately the RF doesn't have a copy of his script so what they see and do is quite different.

I think Harry is looking at this the wrong way. When Princess Margaret learnt her sister was going to end up Queen one day her response was 'you poor thing'. She knew that her sisters life was mapped out from start to finish with little room for manoeuvre, she was the 'spare' and appeared to be quite happy with that.

Harry as the spare has so many more opportunities to do something with his life and appeared to be doing so with the Invictus Games etc. Princess Anne was a spare at one point but a law was in place that meant she would be skipped to the next male heir. But she went on and became an international equestrian but she did not give her children HRH titles, I suspect knowing they would be happier with their own lives.

Harry just needs (a lot of) help. And he needs a job which does not involve selling stories to the media. I suspect MM likes HRH titles and is keen to maintain them so PR's sake. She does seem to come with a lot of drama attached to her.

And yes, the UK press do need a shake up but the RF are not the only ones they go after.

@FlairBand
it seems to be a general amazement at airing dirty laundry in public and an inability to see what on earth he was thinking of when he agreed to publish this.

those saying he wants an apology well in the book hasn't he outlined a dinner he had with his father where he laid bare his resentment at being the spare and Charles put his head in his hands and said how sorry he was !
That alongside the invites to Christmas and Balmoral ( by the queen) and public expressions of love in his first speech as king to the nation show more of an olive branch that Harry has a right to expect.

He is being ridiculous.

But he/his advisors MUST have know this??

Harry no longer has 'advisors'. He left the RF, remember? He left in early 2020 and since then the people advising him and Meghan are either people that they employ to do their bidding or they are publishing giants who have paid H&M millions for content that they hope will generate huge profits.

No one is 'advising' Harry or looking out for him and making sure he doesn't reveal things that are foolish or dangerous. And if they are, well they should be fired, because the revelations on this book are both humiliating and dangerous. Harry has just put a target on the backs of himself and his family that will be there forever, so he'd better keep generating $$$$ to pay his security team, because they've now got their work cut out for them.

The level of protection he was previously given includes the RAF apparently allowing him to leave the base when it was locked down for compulsory drug testing. Of course a consequence of spilling the beans in this way is that others are now talking and reminiscing. No doubt his former Squadron Sergeant Major has sat on this for years until now.
It would have been better for him and everyone if they had tested him and slung him out if he failed the test.

Prince Harry 'was allowed to miss drugs test and leave UK RAF base'
mol.im/a/11608249

Remember when he said, regarding the Queen, that he had checked that she had the 'right people' around her,?
Ironic. He should have been checking his own people.

TBF Princess Margaret didn't cope with her situation very well either

What is also concerning about all this is that the Army took Harry on despite clear and obvious mental health issues and a lack of intelligence. He seems to view his time there as a sort of glorified game , shooting ‘chess pieces’ . If it is true he was kept away from the front line and dodged drugs tests, it doesn’t reflect well on the Army at all. Perhaps there were other reasons for him leaving that haven’t been made public.