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I can’t understand that she knew ‘nothing’ about royal protcal

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Slimmer2018 · 06/01/2023 18:37

It’s normal practice to brief your partner on your family’s habits when initially introduced. What to talk to about with dad (football, golf, cars etc) what granny likes (bingo, knitting etc) I’m being stereotypical here but my point is - surely Harry must’ve briefed his future wife on what happens in the ‘family’ I can’t understand why Megan says it was a surprise to her that she had to curtsey to grandma and that she felt it was formal behind closed doors - Harry had lived that life so why was it such a shock to Megan?? What did she expect?? My thoughts are that she wanted to make changes that really couldn’t be made. To me I feel she just didn’t want to conform to the royal family from the outset. You can’t break hundreds of years of tradition as she tried to do… and I don’t believe she hadn’t researched…

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DuchessOfDisco · 06/01/2023 18:40

I think she knew. I just think she thought she was above all that. I would think she would have been taught she must bow to the Queen of England if she would meet her, but just figured it didn’t apply to her or was a matter of choice.

dropthevipers · 06/01/2023 18:43

The notion that she didn't so much as Google "British royal family" let alone get the low down from Harry has to be utter nonsense-you would have to be a complete idiot not to, and whatever else is, she is not an idiot.

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 06/01/2023 18:44

It's bull shit. MM had a degree in international relations and worked at the UN briefly, likes to paint herself as intelligent, yet she expects people to believe that the status and behaviour of head of state and future heads of state was a surprise? Hmm She obviously thinks all Brits. are as gullible as her husband!

whatadoodledo · 06/01/2023 18:44

DuchessOfDisco · 06/01/2023 18:40

I think she knew. I just think she thought she was above all that. I would think she would have been taught she must bow to the Queen of England if she would meet her, but just figured it didn’t apply to her or was a matter of choice.

It is a matter of choice Smile

AtomicBlondeRose · 06/01/2023 18:46

Of course she bloody knew. I’ve never met the Pope or the head of an Amazonian tribe but I’m aware that it’s a real possibility there’s some sort of protocol about how to speak to them on act in their presence.

Luredbyapomegranate · 06/01/2023 18:46

whatadoodledo · 06/01/2023 18:44

It is a matter of choice Smile

Not for the family

Quordle · 06/01/2023 18:47

I think there's a lot of nuance in the Royal Family that you pick up living in Britain but wouldn't know as an American. Can't remember what it was but Oprah asked a question that showed she just didn't understand the institution, in a way I'm sure almost all British people would. If you live in Britain you've probably picked up an awful lot of information about them over time, even if it's almost subliminally.

lipstickwoman · 06/01/2023 18:48

Of course she knew.

If my any remote chance she didn't then more fool her for not finding out, and shame on Harry for not telling her.

Pathetic.

ArseInTheDogBowl · 06/01/2023 18:51

DuchessOfDisco · 06/01/2023 18:40

I think she knew. I just think she thought she was above all that. I would think she would have been taught she must bow to the Queen of England if she would meet her, but just figured it didn’t apply to her or was a matter of choice.

It has to be this, either that or she's as thick as her husband, which seems unlikely.

But tbh, as much as he deserves (plenty) of criticism, I don't believe it was Harry's responsibility to prepare her for every single little thing. Why did the curtsy thing seemingly upset her so much? Even in the unlikely event that she wasn't aware of it, what was the big deal? She couldn't have just asked him to show her? Why do they portray every tiny thing as being so difficult, every little thing needs to be reported to the world.

chipsandpeas · 06/01/2023 18:54

Quordle · 06/01/2023 18:47

I think there's a lot of nuance in the Royal Family that you pick up living in Britain but wouldn't know as an American. Can't remember what it was but Oprah asked a question that showed she just didn't understand the institution, in a way I'm sure almost all British people would. If you live in Britain you've probably picked up an awful lot of information about them over time, even if it's almost subliminally.

there is such an invention called google (other search engines available)

HerReputationMadeItDifficultToProceed · 06/01/2023 18:55

Quordle · 06/01/2023 18:47

I think there's a lot of nuance in the Royal Family that you pick up living in Britain but wouldn't know as an American. Can't remember what it was but Oprah asked a question that showed she just didn't understand the institution, in a way I'm sure almost all British people would. If you live in Britain you've probably picked up an awful lot of information about them over time, even if it's almost subliminally.

Agree with this.

Also, I'm British born and bred (with a granny who's especially mad for the royal family so probably know more about them than most of my age- I'm almost exactly the same age as Harry) and I would never have thought that the royals are formal like that behind closed doors. I would have throughly expected it to be like a job where you get home (or to your brothers house) and kick if your shoes and are just like a normal family. The formality of Kate and William at home must have been very jarring for Meghan. Also, how could Harry have ever properly conveyed it... it's the only family he's ever had, he would have said something like "well they're royal but of course they're normal!" Meaning "normal as far as I'm aware" (as we all do when we say normal!)

PrinceHaz · 06/01/2023 18:56

I expect she both knew and didn’t know. I think it’s a case of ‘fact is stranger than fiction’. It might seem obvious to most looking on that she would have been briefed and would have asked, but life happens in odd ways. Maybe no one had yet told her. Maybe, as she says, she realised curtsying happens but it hadn’t occurred to her that it would happen in a family setting.
It seems to me that people’s instinct for liking a conspiracy theory comes out when they hear what seems absurd. They believe she’s lying. They believe there’s some motive for lying. I thinks she may be I’ll- advised for telling some anecdotes, people don’t enjoy them and they get people’s hackles up. Doesn’t mean she’s lying though.

Calmdown14 · 06/01/2023 19:19

I'm starting to think she's played a master stroke here.

The ground work is laid for people to be quite sympathetic to her leaving him in the future should she chose to.

I don't know she's that smart and don't really go in for conspiracy theories but I'm struggling to see why anyone would do this otherwise

KatesLipGloss · 06/01/2023 19:23

Even if she didn't know much at the ouset, she comes across as intelligent, and was offered support.

She's an actor - it shouldn't have been that difficult to get in to the part

Of course, if Harry was being a massive twat that would have made things harder for her.

Stepuptowardsinfinity · 06/01/2023 19:23

She certainly knew how to curtsy so her saying she didn't know what to do is a lie. There is a clip of her curtsying in Suits.

Quordle · 06/01/2023 19:28

chipsandpeas · 06/01/2023 18:54

there is such an invention called google (other search engines available)

Yes but you don't know what you don't know.

thebellagio · 06/01/2023 19:28

I’ve said for months this is all Harry’s fault, he didn’t help her at all

from what I can gather the meeting between m & w & c started badly. He told her it was a casual meeting, hence the bare feet/jeans/hugs. He’s tried to slag Willy off saying he was uncomfortable with Meghan hugging him, why the Fuck didn’t he say to Meghan, FYI, my bro isn’t used to hugging people he doesn’t know, and if he only wanted it to be casual why didn’t he text his bro and say “mate, I want to introduce you as my brother not a future king, can we be relaxed and informal tonight pls?”

no matter how you spin it, Harry is the shitty factor for both Meghan and William/Catherine

PineapplePear · 06/01/2023 19:32

Haven’t we all been told how much willy loved being at Kate’s parents house because it was less formal, and that’s what they wanted too?

SheWoreYellow · 06/01/2023 19:34

PineapplePear · 06/01/2023 19:32

Haven’t we all been told how much willy loved being at Kate’s parents house because it was less formal, and that’s what they wanted too?

Yeah but maybe their ‘less formal’ isn’t ours.

SequinsandStilettos · 06/01/2023 19:35

I must admit, I didn't think they curtsied behind closed doors.
In public, sure. Palace staff and courtiers, yes.
But family indoors? I realise I spent too much time growing up thinking the Spitting Image Royal Family antics was documentary! Grin

thebellagio · 06/01/2023 19:36

@PineapplePear but they probably did bow the first time they met him, and he was the one to cease formalities rather than decide upfront no i wont do it. Again, Harry was the one to set expectations on both sides. He admits he didn’t tell M that W would expect a formal greeting

SequinsandStilettos · 06/01/2023 19:38

So yes, I thought they would kick back, have a Gin and be raucous! Wink
And that hugs between the modern royals would be normal.
I'd also have no issue sharing lippy either. I'm clearly a peasant!
I also read Will liked Kate's family dos so thought he was up for party games etc
Tis a weird dynamic tbf

pocketvenuss · 06/01/2023 19:41

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 06/01/2023 18:44

It's bull shit. MM had a degree in international relations and worked at the UN briefly, likes to paint herself as intelligent, yet she expects people to believe that the status and behaviour of head of state and future heads of state was a surprise? Hmm She obviously thinks all Brits. are as gullible as her husband!

I can see the public protocol but I had no idea they behaved like that in private. How bloody stupid. Bowing and curtseying in private? No way would I lower myself either

FrenchFancie · 06/01/2023 19:46

I’m not French, didn’t grow up in France and didn’t immerse myself in French culture, I did learn the language a bit to GCSE.

when I met my French boyfriends parents I was aware their might be air kissing and I had to be careful which ‘you’ to use - tu or vous. I wasn’t certain how things would be so I asked him.

it wasn’t hard and I didn’t feel excluded from his family because their way of doing things was different to mine.

fail to see why H&M made things so hard for themselves….