I can’t understand that she knew ‘nothing’ about royal protcal

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It’s normal practice to brief your partner on your family’s habits when initially introduced. What to talk to about with dad (football, golf, cars etc) what granny likes (bingo, knitting etc) I’m being stereotypical here but my point is - surely Harry must’ve briefed his future wife on what happens in the ‘family’ I can’t understand why Megan says it was a surprise to her that she had to curtsey to grandma and that she felt it was formal behind closed doors - Harry had lived that life so why was it such a shock to Megan?? What did she expect?? My thoughts are that she wanted to make changes that really couldn’t be made. To me I feel she just didn’t want to conform to the royal family from the outset. You can’t break hundreds of years of tradition as she tried to do… and I don’t believe she hadn’t researched…

She would be wise to leave him after that terrible book! Run Megan, save yourself!! He has publicly outed himself as a total nut.

It only dawned on me that they might curtsy behind closed doors when I watched The Crown on Netflix. Before that, like others, I assumed that was just for public. I wouldn't want family to curtsy/how to me when we're chilling at home (or any other time but I'm not the queen)

I think Meghan is the driving force behind all of the trouble. I also believe that she's been treated very badly by the press.

I say the same about my own family feuds, who is at the centre of all of the conflicts? Who is the common denominator? The only family member on either side she appears to get on with is her mother, to me she seems like the centre of all conflict and the odds are against that all of those people are the problem and she is the good one

The entire deference thing is bollocks and I wouldn't buy into it.

She's a narc, so I imagine the thought of curtseying to anybody else would be anathema. I'm starting to think Harry might be one too.

It isn't actually compulsory to curtsy/bow. Wasn't it Cherie Blair who refused to curtsy to Her Maj when His Royal Blairness became PM?

It is a matter of choice.

How would it have gone down with H if she had chosen not to, I wonder? I suspect she had to chose between 'this is crazy, no way' and being with him. And chose to be with him.

Oh FFS, get a life.

Literally everyone curtsies or bows to the monarch both in public and private, I thought that was common knowledge. I think william and catherine keep it formal with new people until they know them well enough to trust them ( and quite rightly so imo). They obviously never trusted megan enough to drop the formality ( again rightly so imo)

It’s 2023 not 1523. No-one should be curtsying to anyone, we’re all of equal value.

I think Harry wanted to throw a car amongst the pigeons so happily sat back let her bulldoze her way in

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It’s 2023 not 1523. No-one should be curtsying to anyone, we’re all of equal value

well if you have a problem with it don’t marry a prince ( or take a title). I bet she doesn’t have a problem with anyone curtsying to her!

No real opinion either way, but the Royal family are going to have to work hard to be seen as relavent or even interesting in the future, William and Catherine seemed to have jumped straight to middle age as it was 30 years ago and there is a while until the kids can introduce a bit of fresh thinking

Like them or not H&M have a broader appeal when combined with the other Royals, and it wasn't forward thinking to alienate them

I often wonder if Meghan thought they’d be a bit in awe of her, US celeb style, and not realise the monarchy is way, way above a minor actress in celeb stakes.

as for the curtseying, it’s fairly normal in UK society to address people according to status.
if your new boyfriend’s dad’s a senior consultant or professor you would address him as “dr smith” or “prof smith”, you wouldn’t go straight to “Dave”. That would take a while.

'Broader appeal' or 'comedy value'?

They certainly have the hilarity factor

This.

No bloody way am I bowing and scraping to anyone. They have done nothing to warrant respect, never mind subservience. That's all the lot of them.

In the crown they show the queen mother doing the deepest of curtsies to the new queen ER2 - surely she saw that?

It didn't look like Megan told people not to curtsey to her.

My understanding of the formalities is that it is protocol for the family to all “observe rank” on first entering a room - bow and curtsy to those of a higher rank - and once that’s done it’s just regular family stuff.

We know William and Harry called the Queen “Granny”, it’s not like a constant stream of “More tea, your Majesty?”

It would make no difference if he was a prof or a bin man. Jeez. The class structure is still alive and well

Quite. What we are discussing is totally out of place in modern society.

Once they were engaged she was provided with a 30 page dossier covering protocol in all sorts of situations , contacts for networking in London re fashion etc , details of people who could advise her et etc. apparently some poor chap spent weeks working on it and when she was given it she discarded it saying she had Harry to help. I can understand why she felt that but actually you don’t know what you don’t know so Harry probably wasn’t the best person. Also possibly not the best way to get staff onside, but you live and learn .

I think she genuinely thought she would cope but she’s opened Pandora’s box . I do feel she is being scapegoated for his behaviour

as for the curtseying, it’s fairly normal in UK society to address people according to status.
if your new boyfriend’s dad’s a senior consultant or professor you would address him as “dr smith” or “prof smith”, you wouldn’t go straight to “Dave”. That would take a while. Bollocks, you've made that up. Never have I used a title for someone I met in an informal setting and only a massive twat would introduce themselves at home as 'Professor' etc. I meet these labelled people all the time, they say 'Hi, I'm Bob'.

You've confused TV programmes set in the 1950s with modern real life.

I find it very hard to believe she didn't tightly research protocols and cultural expectations, as an intelligent person and an actor.

The "didn't know how to curtsey" thing is particularly odd as there is footage of her executing a perfectly fine curtsey in a role before she met Harry, so the elaborate performance in the interview in which she demonstrated her curtsey to the Queen was just Mockery. Very Ill mannered and frankly stupid of her to have done that.