Taliban response....

[CombatBarbie]

Now they have responded, has Harry just stirred another hornets nest with Afghan?

It was ghost-written, edited, proofread, checked, (presumably by lawyers and several other people) and no-one at any point said "hmm, let's reword that bit, it could be a little problematic."

Unbelievably foolish.

@DreamingOfAGreenChristmas , sure if it’s libellous. It’s not their job to protect him from saying juicy things he might come to regret.

Oh fuck!

Maybe. Big gamble for him to play. They do both seem to be a bit thick or maybe naive. There were a few things in the Netflix doc where they said they didn't realise something would be taken as it was, where anyone could've thought of that. Perhaps this is the same thing.

agree

even before 2020, I said this early 21st century period would be known as “Mass Hysteria, or Much Ado About Nothing”. The emotional diarrhoea bug has infected every workplace and it seems every institution.

but I saw it as an annoyance and while I always thought it would cause societal problems, I never thought it could lead to potential danger.

maybe I’ll write a book - no, I’m too lazy. But coming from a place where I spent 20 years scared that my workplace would find out my mental health issues, I really miss stiff upper lip. I don’t mean the media as I usually ignore them. I just think it’s partly the prevailing culture that might have contributed to his feelings it was okay to say this.

The lawyers and proofreaders would have been working for either penguin random house (whose priority is to protect themselves) or Harry in a personal capacity - and whatever you think about Harry, he is undeniably somebody who takes advice from mediums.

Maybe there is a win win outcome to all this - H&M get there security, but they actually do have to live quietly and privately. This turns out to be good for everyone’s mental health.

Why the fuck are people saying the Taliban's statement is good? They literally murder torture and oppress innocent Afghanis who don't follow their rules or are a different ethnic group.

Fucking hell, people will even pick that over Harry - not that it's even a choice at all!!

I’m not saying there is nothing to be said for the D of E’s approach, but he and the Queen showed very poor judgement in thinking the marriage to Diana was a good idea, and they didn’t handle the Prince Andrew problem well. Distantly expecting the family to just sort themselves out didn’t work.

You could blame their children, but then that rather undermines the concept of hereditary monarchy.

You must realise that you are a bit of a divvy when the Taliban are scoring points off you.

Maybe they did say that and he chose to ignore the advice. He does seem to think he knows it all ...

The editor’s job is to produce books that sell, and this was a very expensive book. It would be nice to think that at some point a grown up would be brought in to protect the ‘author’ from harming themselves, but I don’t think that is how it works.

Fucking hell, people will even pick that over Harry - not that it's even a choice at all!!

Isn't it shadenfreude? Harry snipes and snipes at his family on a global stage for the whole world to see and now he has shot himself in the foot. He doesn't need to bully his brother, his SIL and his father in front of the whole world but he and his scheming wife chose to. Harry is a clown.

EmmaEmerald excellent post. I don't know if it's because I'm an older gimmer, but the 21st century emotional diarrhoea seems to be helping no-one. There is definitely something to be said for stoicism.

I was thinking of the military people I have known.

None ever ever said that they had killed anyone, even those who I know had been at war/involved in civil unrest/coups/invasions. I never really pushed the question, but it was always a question that was evaded or glossed over and the subject changed.

I assumed that was how all military people were.

Ah that’s interesting as my brother is ex-army and will not answer that question at all. I assumed he was being weird but perhaps it’s a thing.

I don’t have a problem with what Harry said tho. 🤷‍♀️ Everyone knows he went to war against the Taliban. So he killed some. That is kinda what he was sent there to do.

I don’t think we should be giving a platform to moralising comments from the Taliban given how they beat women to death for wanting an education.

Not convinced Harry’s comment adds any security risk. Terrorists have always wanted to kill the royal family. Its nothing new.

I'm wondering if he's deliberately martyring himself - he's said he thinks he's like his mother, maybe in so far as he won't stop until he ends up killed? It almost seems like he wants that, because he thinks it'll make him a true victim and a hero. Then there can follow a whole load of hand wringing and 'I told you so' about his need of public security, and how the royal family hung him out to dry like they did with Diana.

From what I've seen recently, his mental health is so fucked up that he might actually be thinking like that. And the biggest tragedy is that Meghan is his Martin Bashir. 🙁

What does this have to do with praising what I said about praising the Taliban's statements?

Publishers and distributors are held ultimately responsible for all sorts of content, not just libel or defamation. Negligence, incitement, anything that could be construed as actionable.

To those saying there was already a threat to the security at the coronation and generally on the RF. Of course there is.

But Harry's just increased it. He's just given extra reason to attack.

He's raised the attractiveness of an attack on many types of people with connections to the U.K. military and beyond - see the evacuation in Kabul yesterday.

Additionally he's spoken about the deaths of people who are Muslim - with the stress on 'people' to me, but to a certain type of loner on the 'Muslim' - like they don't count as human. This will draw the attention of people who want to avenge the murder of Muslims. That they're Afghani or possibly Taliban won't be as important as that.

To be honest, if he'd just put a bigger target on himself that would be a shame, but it was his choice to speak. He's the one who gets the money too. But he's putting the lives of so many people at increased risk. Including people who will never profit, people who are in the Armed Forces and personal security (police?). And he loved the armed forces? He felt like he was at home there?

It's absolutely unconscionable.

Has he not thought for one minute the effect of this on his children?

I know there’s the whole ‘thank you for your service, warrior’ thing in the states (and he knows full well we don’t really do that in the U.K.), but they will grow up to be old enough to revel against their parents (as most children do). He has also put them at risk surely? And in a county with so many weapons and shootings…

When PH is on his knees begging for his life the broken dog bowl and necklace will appear inconsequential I suspect.
One person's valued human being is just another person's 'chess piece' after all.

Omid has had (surprise surprise) access to the original text re. the 25 killings

uk.news.yahoo.com/harry-book-exclusive-25-taliban-kills-read-full-extract-144021236.html

He hated is squadron leader didn't he 😂 please let this squadron leader come out and defend himself.

He's looking so closely for mistakes, because the repercussions of one would be massive for him and the unit 🙄

I also can't figure out if he is a proud veteran really, "Afghanistan was a war of mistakes."

Those men and women who died out there didn't think it a mistake, they thought it a duty and paid the ultimate sacrifice for it.

War is war, it's never pleasant, it's never good. Collateral damage happens, friendly fire happens, But war is war.

To sit in a multi million pound mansion with private security and the bank balance increasing by eye watering amounts daily, to sit back and say it was all a mistake really is downplaying the sacrifices some have made for it in my opinion.