What the hell is his end goal?

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So Harry is worried about security and yet has written in his book that he’s killed 25 Talibans.
He is dangerous. He is dangerous to the UK, to his family and to himself
He seems intent to be stirring up hatred.
I am so glad that HM The Queen isn’t seeing this 🥹 All her years of service being trashed by someone she loved so much

Whinging about the size of the room you get given in the castle. 😂😂🤣 You couldn’t make this shit up.

More concerning is the inflammatory comments about killing Taliban. He’s making himself and his family a target, alongside all British troops.

Arsehole

They do seem to spend "money like water" too.

I do think there is a bit of an issue with Royals who dont get so much or much from the Royal coffers.

Mike Tindall going in I'm A Celebrity - didnt like that.

Some lower ranking royals marry into money, which solves their financial problems I presume.

Also, they barely knew each other and had nothing in common other than being married to brothers.

Kate runs a tight ship and is very careful about who she lets into her life. That has served her well over the years. She wasn't going to become best gal pals with Meghan overnight, and for good reason as I think we now can all see.

Harry doesn't have an end goal imo. I now completely believe that the Palace had been protecting him from himself for years and now that the public can see the real him they (generally) dislike him. A lot.

And, like many, I'm appalled that he even kept count of how many people he has killed. It never occurred to me that soldiers would keep a tally, like a sick version of counting how many people you've slept with. Revealing the number is exceptionally foolhardy, particularly when security was always going to be an issue for him. As is describing them as chess pieces. They were actual people. They may have been the "bad guys" in this particular war (though lots of us were always opposed to military intervention in Afghanistan), but they were still human beings.

Though I suppose by increasing his own risk (and his family's) he will get more security paid for by the state when he visits the UK, which is what he has been trying to get through the courts. It is such a shame that the risk has been increased to such an extent that the additional security is probably now needed.

Wrt to lip gloss and baby brain - I share with lip balm / gloss siblings and mum, though I accept many people would think even that very unhygienic. I wouldn't share with anyone else though, and I'd be shocked to be asked. I'm 37 and haven't had someone ask to borrow lip gloss since I left school. If I told any of my post-partum sisters that they had "baby brain" I'd have been eaten alive! And we're very close.

There’s no coming back from this level of indiscretion.

No privacy-craving celeb is going to want to be near them. No institution will trust them.

I now completely believe that the Palace had been protecting him from himself for years and now that the public can see the real him they (generally) dislike him. A lot.

What is this based on? That a grown man can't feel what he does? So many posts on here saying cut off toxic family but when someone Royal does it, it's outrageous and they should be locked up for their own good ike Britney Spears.

I respect the RF for what they do and understand that they can't voice their own opinions because it's uncouth, Harry has broken away from that.

Is no one able to have an objective view and think he may have a point and prefer a republic nation? He didn't ask to be born into this and everyone else is tight lipped while he and his wife have been getting worldwide criticism because they dare to actually talk without someone having to grant them permission.

Ever heard the expression "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt"?

Yes, Harry now can mouth off every hour and minute of the day if he so chooses, but how exactly is that helping him? He has gone from being a globally admired figure to an international laughing stock in a few years. And that's through his own actions. Not all 'opinions' need to be 'voiced'.

And I'm wondering what you mean when you say "he may have a point and prefer a republic nation"? Harry was specifically asked if he believed in the monarchy and answered with a resounding 'yes'.

What is clear is that Kate & William didn't like Meghan much.
We could speculative endlessly on why and whether it's justified and all reach different conclusions.

These tense family relationships are often based around an accumulation of small misunderstandings and differences where narratives form and get reinforced over time.
We probably all have similar stories in our families with lip gloss or baby brain type comments getting stored up.

I think a lot of the reinforcement of these relationship breakdowns come from the retelling of the stories within the couple, strengthening their sense of being right to be upset.

This is really just typical family stuff played out publically.

What's not usual is posting your lipgloss type grievance on Facebook, just stick with bitching to your husband and smile at family events.

But Harry has made normal tension into a global level tragedy.

So many posts on here saying cut off toxic family but when someone Royal does it, it's outrageous ...

This is fair enough up to a point, except that "cutting someone off" generally involves getting on with living your best life without them - not relying on selling dirt again and again to fund your lifestyle

He clearly doesn't care about everyone liking him and it's more important he tells 'his story'. Don't think it's that difficult to understand.

Of course he believes in the monarchy (his family) but it's not a stretch to think he'd be happy with a republic nation. All we are all doing is guessing. Picking a few sentences out of the media that are sensationalist with no context.

I genuinely can't understand why people are so angry. H and M have made a different choice. We'll never know the other side because they can't disclose because they are ' in service'.

Probably both as bad as each other. Still don't understand why people are so angry, neither H & M or the Royal family know or care you exist. Lets worry about the government, something that actually matters instead of zoning in on two people who feel they have been wronged. Don't read their articles, don't watch their series, don't read their book. Job done.

Not angry.

Incredulous. He has reduced his story to a tawdry collection of petty anecdotes and grudges.

Sorry, but when you specifically say you believe in the monarchy, as Harry did in a recent interview, how can you possibly "be happy with a republic nation"? The two things are directly contradictory. Harry is a monarchist, which makes the support from him from republicans somewhat bemusing.

And who's 'angry'? Not me. I'm guiltily enjoying the gossip while at the same time thinking it's all a bit tawdry and unpleasant. Nor have I ever read 'their book' or watched 'their series' but in any case it's entirely up to me how I spend my free time. If you want to 'worry about the government' who's stopping you and why are you choosing to repeatedly post on the Royal Family page?

To make us laugh? Am getting over flu and yesterday was a HOOT!

But revealing very personal info about his family (circumcision…! Charles’ bear) is very bad form.

Worse for me as a republican (small r) is that he has said nothing about the so called racist in the family (other than his own Hitler dress up and use of slurs) and nothing about Andrew. No reformist! And then heard he says as much as he’s totally critical of his family, he wants in as a royal. Certainly not getting rid of his made up titles is he? Not interested in him other than for a laugh tbh.

Actually I think he deeply cares about people liking him. Meghan certainly does, she wants fame, power, fortune.

That’s why he keeps trying to justify what him and Meghan have been done, they want folks to think it isn’t them, that and a a heavy dose of spite, revenge and greed. To use his words it’s a dirty game.

harry was arguably one of the most popular royals before he met Meghan. He knew this. He is now a figure of utter derision globally . He has lost his family, hus military titles, the respect of his military peers, even his home. That’s got to be hard to take.

it’s curious that neither of them have broken cover. They are literally in hiding. There is no lap of honour. No preening. No self congratulations.

they knew though, as they apparently tried to dial back the book after the queens funeral as they grasped there would be a back lash, but it was too late, and it would have taken a complete rewrite.

so now they are in hiding from the shit storm they have created.

I wish he'd clarity the racist story.
Who was it? What did they say?.

Clarify, sorry

Didn’t happen. He’s been so over sharing about everything, the fact that he can’t publicly accuse/name anyone means he KNOWS he can’t make such a false allegation in writing

This book has created the worst possible response, and one that Harry can never have imagined - he is a laughing stock. Globally. And that must hurt.
Added to which, he is being criticised by his beloved military, his former comrades. Oh to be a fly on the wall in Montecito right now ....

I wish he'd clarify the racist story

Well, if the reports are correct he's certainly "clarified" his own racism; apparently he didn't know "P*ki" was a slur and thought it was just like calling someone a Yankee, because he was cut off from the real world and surrounded by privilege

Amazing really, since even people with massive privilege can access news, watch current affairs programmes or even just listen to their advisers - and isn't the correct approach supposed to be to apologise and learn, rather than attempt self-justification?

I think her end goal is political. Congress, senator, president?

she will be engineering their image as much as she can with this in mind.

I do wish people would stop blaming Meghan for Harry’s failings. He’s a grown man who should be judged by his own actions; unless you know them personally it is quite a stretch to say with conviction that this is all down to her. I can see how people may arrive at that conclusion (ie he seemed fine before and when he met her it all went downhill), but I think a pp could well be right in saying that he may have been like this all along but things were carefully managed behind the scenes. Either way, we cannot possibly know, but to lay it all at Meghan’s door is ridiculous and, dare I say it, a touch misogynistic.

Not after SpareGate. Ot at least not with Harry at her side.

His credibility is sinking faster than the Titanic and it's dragging her along.

Totally agree . I suspect Meghan is in over her head, whatever she expected when she married him I doubt it was this . Being married to someone with a mental illness is very hard, I think she probably encouraged him to a point but now she’s opened Pandora’s box and she can’t control the fallout or I suspect his anger and distress.

Harry is a republican? Yeah, right. Some people have a convenient memory lapse about H&M’s flit to Canada from where they launched SussexRoyal and the half-in half/out idea.

I think Meghan will divorce him in the next year or so . And then write her book.