What the hell is his end goal?

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So Harry is worried about security and yet has written in his book that he’s killed 25 Talibans.
He is dangerous. He is dangerous to the UK, to his family and to himself
He seems intent to be stirring up hatred.
I am so glad that HM The Queen isn’t seeing this 🥹 All her years of service being trashed by someone she loved so much

I don't think Harry has an 'end goal'. He is very easily led. I think Meghan is manipulative and may have had an 'end goal' all along.

Well, self-destruction is what he's going to get

I think William really lucked out with the Middleton family. I’m sure they’ve got their own failings but they’re about as ‘normal’ and solid as you can get. He’s spent a lot of time with them over the years.

I think you're right.

In the book he even goes into which of them had the bigger bedroom ('Willy, because he is the heir')

But this is normal in most households. I had the bigger bedroom as the eldest, my sister the box room. When I moved out, she was offered my room, but decided to stay where she was. So my parents put a load of gym equipment in there. I doubt Harry was in a box room too!

My eldest has the biggest room despite not living here and only being at home about 6 weeks of the year, my youngest has the smallest room 🤷

@Cornettoninja I completely agree with you, I think the Middleton family probably "saved" him by letting him become a part their family showing him all the things most of us take for granted that almost certainly were secondary in his own upbringing due to unhappy fucked up parents, duty and service, politics and game playing.

I would bet my bottom dollar that his guiding principle to successfully parent his own children will be to think what his parents did and do the opposite.

Agree with this. Such a very strange dynamic. He wanted everything his brother had, only better. 'Look, my wife is better than yours'. It's just rude to ask to borrow someones lip gloss that you don't really know very well.

Increasingly likely that this guy has been a long time pain in the ass, protected from making a tit of himself in public by the palace for a lot of his adult life and has now gone full tonto with no one brave enough to be honest with him. Or fired if they do.

I don’t care for Meghan but I don’t think she is as dim as he is -what does she think would be the outcome of this, presumably she read this mince before it got to print? If you loved your DH wouldn’t you try to talk him down from this very public skipfire?

His mother died when he was a child and it seems he was hardly given any emotional support. His wife was hounded by the press like his mother. He ended up in an ill defined job he didn't want. His family are more like a business with very strict rules. Whilst favouritism of eldest child might be normal such a distinction isn't. All the time everyone told him he should be grateful he's rich.

I wonder what's wrong with him?! Really.

I’ve known two sets of brothers who lost their mothers at more or less the same age as William and Harry (one to bereavement, one to total abandonment- she moved to Aus with a new lover and never came back to the UK).

In both cases the youngest brother has been left in a state of arrested development, especially emotionally. The older brothers also have difficulties that likely relate to motherloss but not to the same extent as the younger ones.

I suspect it’s just a very bad age to lose your mum in psychosocial terms, causing massive disruption to normal emotional development.

The ‘Stiff British Upper Lip’ stuff of our aristocratic class likely meant that this disruption wasn’t adequately recognised, despite the family having the means to pay for professional support (unlike the brothers I know).

I absolutely agree with the above post that Harry has probably been like this all along, but has been ‘scaffolded’ by institutions (boarding school, the army, the firm and their men in grey suits) and Meghan has encouraged him to run away and let it all hang out, not realising that what would hang out is an emotionally stunted, petulant teenage boy who moans about both normal family stuff (the eldest getting a bigger bedroom, his wife having to pay for IKEA because the antiques aren’t to her liking, not wanting to risk a cold sore from a shared lipgloss) and overshares in a spectacularly stupid way.

How on earth he now reconciles his current American social justice persona with publicly boasting about his military record I have no idea.
Surely what’s left of his current sympathetic audience won’t celebrate him killing multiple people, especially as he could easily have avoided this sort of active deployment and spent his military time doing something benign but helpful, like his brother’s search and rescue?

I think it's more about getting his truth out there than it is about the money. I have a lot of compassion for Harry and I hope his family will respond with compassion too because I think this is coming from a huge amount of pain and he needs them. I understand grey rock but he's begging to be heard and at least part of what he says is a completely understandable and to be expected given the traumatic experiences he's had. The issue with his brother is going to be the most difficult one though as William is quite unforgiving. Tbh they both seem to hold a grudge and the rivalry has become very toxic.

I don’t think he has a game plan or end goal at all… apart from the cash…

Posh boy penis stories, personal details of prior relationships, drug taking, petty disagreements and entitled slights, sibling rivalry, and overanalysing minor interactions.

None of this will work well in translation and even if the full book is comprised of detail and nuance these are the things what will undermine him.

Enough with the “his/her/their truth” bollocks. Someone’s opinion is just that, an opinion, their perception. Frequently unrelated to the actual facts.

The RF have to grey rock though. They need to protect their own privacy and mental health.

Harry was still including recent details about the Queens death. A total invasion of privacy and he can’t be trusted.

@Menomenon precisely. Who the fuck tells the world what your words to your dead grandmothers body when paying your respects were. Dickhead behaviour.

Excellent post.

But you only have his word for this. No one has asked PC, or William or Tiggy the Nanny about it ( and they would probably have too much dignity to answer).

Absolutely.

I do think going to America and genuinely “living well and having genuine happiness” would have been the best revenge for him though. I do think he could have dealt with it with more integrity and in a way that actually would have probably made William quite envious.

Absolutely! He has money, freedom and a beautiful, healthy family who love him. His life could be one lived in the light with joy and happiness.

There is no need for all this navel gazing and woe-peddling. It must surely be doing far more harm than good.

I do wonder that because the book has been leaked in Spanish (!!) we are just getting the OMG moments, quickly put into the media, and if we read the whole thing, we will get a more balance view of Harry and more importantly what he thinks if his family.

He'll carry on until Meghan tells him to stop. Or he wakes up to her and leaves her to come home.

But you only have his word for this. No one has asked PC, or William or Tiggy the Nanny about it ( and they would probably have too much dignity to answer).

Well I chose to believe that is what Harry experienced. Having had to tell my teenage DD that her best friend had died in a rta, (telling her was one of the worse moments of my life) I know I probably made mistakes in that moment, and would never begrudge my DD talking about it.

Didn't he claim in an interview some time ago that he'd never had a bike and felt hard done by it, but there is a photo of him riding his bike?

Or did I dream all that?

There is a video of Charles as a tiny boy, maybe 5, His parents have been away for weeks.. Mummy returns, barely acknowledges Charles who is waiting on the Quay.

Charles appears to have had a distant, loveless childhood, hardly surprising he can’t be a warm and loving parent himself.