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Surely this is the death knell for the Royal Family?

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Woodenheart33 · 05/01/2023 20:49

Surely its now over for the Royal Family. Any notion that they are in some way special or noble is completely gone now. They have all gravitas of a problem family on Jeremy Kyle. Why would anyone bow to them or look up to them is beyond me. There is no longer anything regal about them!

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JoyPeaceHealth · 06/01/2023 11:31

but the palace sources tend to gloss over it and minimise it all.

It took harry's book to give us the trigger of the Kate/Meghan falling out. Finally we know that Meghan said Kate had Baby brain. Kate was hurt by that and so Meghan was reprimanded to which she took great umbridge. So Meghan was the victim of kate being hurt. Classic DARVO!

MyPurpleHeart · 06/01/2023 11:33

There's no proof the RF have ever done anything to plant stories on H&M ever, it's all speculation. So by that assumption it's okay for H&M to openly attack the RF in retaliation?

When someone comes out on the record and says yes I was told by W&K to write this story then I'll believe it. Until then we are supposed to believe the word of two proven liars?

SirMingeALot · 06/01/2023 11:45

MarshaBradyo · 06/01/2023 11:30

I found it funny that anyone would think the stallion story had to be said so someone else wouldn’t say it

It’s too silly and far fetched

Amusing though

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Surely if someone else were going to leak that (again, no pun intended) it would've come out at some point in the last twenty years!

ily0 · 06/01/2023 12:47

Woodenheart33 · 06/01/2023 00:35

I'm just embarrassed by them and the sycophants who fawn over them in this country.

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Why??? Harry is the one embarrassing himself.

ily0 · 06/01/2023 12:49

JoyPeaceHealth · 06/01/2023 11:31

but the palace sources tend to gloss over it and minimise it all.

It took harry's book to give us the trigger of the Kate/Meghan falling out. Finally we know that Meghan said Kate had Baby brain. Kate was hurt by that and so Meghan was reprimanded to which she took great umbridge. So Meghan was the victim of kate being hurt. Classic DARVO!

Also she said it was Kate who made her cry?! They can’t keep their lies straight.

Noonesperfect · 06/01/2023 13:03

I think it's Harry who has a backbone. It's easy to stand in crowd, much more difficult to stand against it. The royal family just hide behind "No comment!" Isn't that what criminals often do when trying to avoid implicating themselves?

ArcaneWireless · 06/01/2023 13:08

Isn't that what criminals often do when trying to avoid implicating themselves?

Criminals often lie to avoid incriminating themselves too.

IcedPurple · 06/01/2023 13:17

Noonesperfect · 06/01/2023 13:03

I think it's Harry who has a backbone. It's easy to stand in crowd, much more difficult to stand against it. The royal family just hide behind "No comment!" Isn't that what criminals often do when trying to avoid implicating themselves?

So everyone someone makes an allegation about you you need to respond, or be assumed to be 'guilty'?

Given that barely a day passes without someone, somewhere, making some sort of allegation about members of the royal family, they'd be doing nothing else.

Noonesperfect · 06/01/2023 13:36

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Noonesperfect · 06/01/2023 13:37

It's not just anyone making a comment though is it. It's a member of their own family.

IcedPurple · 06/01/2023 13:38

Noonesperfect · 06/01/2023 13:37

It's not just anyone making a comment though is it. It's a member of their own family.

All the more reason not to respond. Don't most families prefer to resolve family matters privately?

Just because Harry is crying out for attention doesn't mean he has to be indulged.

Noonesperfect · 06/01/2023 13:39

Most families don't have their wife's name dragged through the mud by the tabloids everyday!

JoyPeaceHealth · 06/01/2023 13:43

Yes there is an element of TRUTH TELLER about Harry but although it's the truth, he is in too much pain to see what chess moves would have served him better in the public's perception of him. It's his right to say what happened to him but he has to be strong enough to deal with the backlash. Also as others have said once it's out there it's out there, and that can be a shame when at the time of putting it out there you were in enormous pain and then five years later you realise, actually, i can let that part go. But it's still out there.

Noonesperfect · 06/01/2023 13:45

JoyPeaceHealth · 06/01/2023 13:43

Yes there is an element of TRUTH TELLER about Harry but although it's the truth, he is in too much pain to see what chess moves would have served him better in the public's perception of him. It's his right to say what happened to him but he has to be strong enough to deal with the backlash. Also as others have said once it's out there it's out there, and that can be a shame when at the time of putting it out there you were in enormous pain and then five years later you realise, actually, i can let that part go. But it's still out there.

Yes I agree with this ☝️

HamBone · 06/01/2023 13:45

Talia99 · 06/01/2023 10:19

What I’ve taken away from the extracts more than anything is that it’s fascinating how many people both on Mumsnet and in the wider community have managed to justify domestic violence because they don’t like the victim or have argued it doesn’t count as DV because Harry could have fought back.

I have more respect for people who flatly say it didn’t happen and Harry is lying than I do for the people who accept it happened but think DV in that particular circumstance is just fine because they don’t like the victim. I think it illustrates the way non-famous victims of DV are treated by friends and family when they leave an abuser despite posters on Mumsnet saying they would never support someone who assaulted his family.

Also, while the book isn’t going down well with British tabloids or the average RF supporting Daily Mail reader, they don’t like H&M anyway and the reaction isn’t surprising (and I’m sure was expected by H&M). I will be interested to see how it goes down with their actual target audience which I think is the US and people who generally don’t support the RF.

I'm in the US and I'm interested to see how it's received here. I'm sure there'll be sympathy, but the emphasis on "family" is very strong here, far more so than the UK I'd say, partly because of the lack of welfare state. Families really rely on each other and people will be shocked that he's sharing so much.

I think their major celebrity friends will keep very quiet and possibly distance themselves (at least for a while). People like success stories and positivity here, they don't like complaining at all. He'll be expected to pick himself up and do something positive now.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 06/01/2023 14:22

I honestly thought the book would be just full of waffle, vague references to scenarios, hints at wrong doing by unnamed family members.

I'm blown away by how Frank and open he has been about stuff that really isn't suitable to share.

Meghan is usually limpet fixed to him on all areas of their lives, and that she is silent on this, and in this book, speaks volumes to me.

Mummyoflittledragon · 06/01/2023 14:35

Talia99 · 06/01/2023 11:27

Except they are defending themselves, at length. Almost all ‘royal sources’ are authorised.

Jeremy Clarkson would never have made the comments he did if he thought it would get him cut off from hobnobbing with the RF. Do I think he was told what to say? No. Do I think it was made clear to him there would be no blowback from the RF if he trashed Meghan? Oh, yes.

As you say, constant malicious attacks against your character with no evidence or proof are bullying and that’s exactly what the tabloids have been doing to H&M for years with the RF at the very best refusing to help them and at the worst actively planting stories against them.

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I hope Jeremy Clarkson is cut off from all royals now. I am not a fan of H&M. I most definitely was before the whole thing blew up. I do not condone bullying and the posters on the thread about his article said similar regardless of their feelings toward the couple.

ReneBumsWombats · 06/01/2023 14:43

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 06/01/2023 14:22

I honestly thought the book would be just full of waffle, vague references to scenarios, hints at wrong doing by unnamed family members.

I'm blown away by how Frank and open he has been about stuff that really isn't suitable to share.

Meghan is usually limpet fixed to him on all areas of their lives, and that she is silent on this, and in this book, speaks volumes to me.

Well it suggests he's a grown man who makes his own decisions and she isn't actually his evil puppet master...

Menomenon · 06/01/2023 15:23

Biggest revelation - Harry is a prick all of his own volition.

The evil Royal PR had in fact been helping Harry out all along, which is why so many of us thought he was a sad lad led astray by Meghan. But no, he was always a bit of a knob. She just gave it a whole load of added nonsense.

Nanny0gg · 06/01/2023 17:07

DillDanding · 05/01/2023 22:46

Much as I’d love to see them all gone, it won’t happen.

William and Kate will become more visible over the next few weeks so us prices think they’re hard-working. Kate will be more rictus grin than usual. They will be fine.

Harry’s played a blinder though in terms of book sales.

Why? What's the point of buying it? Everything anyone would want to read is out there now

Coucous · 06/01/2023 17:11

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Blossomtoes · 06/01/2023 17:22

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Not the big ones. Wishing doesn’t make it so.

Megan1992xx · 06/01/2023 17:25

As a Monarchist I cannot but agree that has finally driven a nail into the institution.
I would prefer President Blair to this dysfuntional nightmare.

ReneBumsWombats · 06/01/2023 17:34

Megan1992xx · 06/01/2023 17:25

As a Monarchist I cannot but agree that has finally driven a nail into the institution.
I would prefer President Blair to this dysfuntional nightmare.

Better alert the Palace so they don't waste any more time and money planning the coronation.

Happyvalleyfan · 06/01/2023 18:24

The whole airing of dirty laundry in public has been really undignified for the RF- I don’t think they are going to be seen in the same light again.

Together with the Crown, it’s also bringing up old scars.

Tampongate! The RF may have been through worse, but that was prior social media.

No amount of money being spent on the Coronation can overcome that…