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Meghan WAS banned from Balmoral after Queen’s death

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SnottyLottie · 05/01/2023 20:48

In his book, Harry also claims that his father told him that Meghan should not come to Balmoral. The Queen was staying at her Scottish estate when she died last September.

The prince wrote: "Then my father called again. He told me I was welcome at Balmoral, but… without her. He started to explain his reasons, but they didn't make any sense at all, and it was disrespectful as well. I did not tolerate it from him.

"Don't even think about talking about my wife like that.

"Repentant, he said, stammering, that he simply didn't want the place to be full of people. Nobody's wife was going to go, not even Kate, he told me, so Meg shouldn't either."

source: news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-asked-his-father-not-to-marry-camilla-as-moment-he-was-told-about-his-mothers-car-accident-revealed-in-book-12780602

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2223x · 06/01/2023 01:29

His timings (once again) don't add up.

His flight arrived in Aberdeen at 6:35. His flight was not over three hours long.

Streamside · 06/01/2023 01:31

Quirkyme · 06/01/2023 00:31

Agree.

And proof that an expensive education does absolutely nothing for some people.

asblindasabat · 06/01/2023 01:43

I would understand his reaction to this if Kate was allowed to go but she wasn’t either so what’s the big deal.

AlmondBake · 06/01/2023 01:53

OldFan · 06/01/2023 01:06

@AlmondBake You make him sound like every woman's dream. Grin

Maybe Meghan is one of those on the Relationships board describing her pathetic, self-obsessed, stroppy and annoying husband with MH problems and planning when she can leave.💪

Not sure how you come to that conclusion. I have little time for either of them - I just don't see everything in black and white. They've painted themselves into a very lonely corner and it's very much them against the RF, the media etc so I can understand why they'd want to support each other in difficult situations.

SD1978 · 06/01/2023 01:56

@My2pence2day - the number of people not welcome, who will turn up regardless, make it about them, and cause a massive Barney in my own family, is not something I'm looking forward to! There are people who will be told that they are not welcome, and I have no doubt they'll be surprised- so yeah- it's an every family problem ConfusedGrin

JemimaTiggywinkles · 06/01/2023 02:05

When my grandmother was dying my mother was irrational. She behaved very strangely in the few days when we knew there was little time left and was even worse in the weeks afterwards. As her (adult) children, my siblings and I accommodated her (sometimes unreasonable) requests as none of us can imagine the grief which comes with losing a loved parent, and her pain was so evident we all wanted to lessen it as much as we could. I’d have to be literally starving before I would take money to detail her behaviour and open her up to public ridicule for how she was at that time.

Wanting only your children and not their spouses around at a time of immense pain might be unimaginable to some, but the opposite is true for many too. Lots of us are not huggers, do not do PDAs and prefer our pain to be kept private. Some of us prefer to demonstrate our feelings through small, day-to-day actions rather than using unsubstantiated words and meaningless attendance at a deathbed. I don’t remember the last time I hugged my mum, nor told her I loved her. But she knows I do, and I know she loves me too because our everyday interactions constantly demonstrate that love in a low-key kind of way. None of this makes us worse people, just different in how we express ourselves. By failing to recognise that people are different Harry has shown himself to be seriously lacking in empathy.

urbanbuddha · 06/01/2023 02:05

I think he has been completely exploited by Meghan, by Netflix, by his publishers, and by anyone who thinks they can make some money off him.

I agree.

It seems obvious he’s mentally ill and I don’t think producers and publishers should be pouring fuel on the fire by allowing him to rabbit on about his frailties and fears like this to a worldwide audience. He seems completely deluded and I think in that case you quite simply don’t publicise it. It’s not going to help in any way and it’s not in the public interest. Meghan also seems unstable - apart from her mother and Harry she seems unable to sustain normal adult relationships.

Quirkyme · 06/01/2023 02:07

@urbanbuddha

"Apart from her mother and Harry she seems unable to sustain normal adult relationships".

Interesting observation. She has a good group of friends who had a lot of great things to say about her character.

Don't make such comments because she chose to cut off her dad.

urbanbuddha · 06/01/2023 02:12

Don't make such comments because she chose to cut off her dad.

And her step siblings and the uncle who helped her in her career. Then there’s the staff that she couldn’t keep etc., etc.
Her mother sat alone at the wedding - it was an unforgettable image.

JemimaTiggywinkles · 06/01/2023 02:14

She has a good group of friends who had a lot of great things to say about her character

Do you have a link to interviews, newspaper columns etc? I watched the Netflix show but didn’t follow this shenanigans much before that so have likely missed her friends speaking out on her behalf. And I do think Meghan gets unfairly blamed for stuff which is clearly Harry’s fault!

That said, I refuse to judge a person based on what their peers and friends think. Maybe it’s the working class kid in me, but what I want to know is how a person treats those below them in social standing.

MarshaMelrose · 06/01/2023 02:24

urbanbuddha · 06/01/2023 02:12

Don't make such comments because she chose to cut off her dad.

And her step siblings and the uncle who helped her in her career. Then there’s the staff that she couldn’t keep etc., etc.
Her mother sat alone at the wedding - it was an unforgettable image.

And her poor niece.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 06/01/2023 02:42

RLScott · 06/01/2023 00:51

Wouldn’t have banned Harry as that is his beloved grandmother, but under no circumstance would you have let his rude and difficult wife (and her mocking curtsy) anywhere near the body and the grieving family.

they could easily have. Only William and Harry went that day, none of the other grandchildren. It could easily have been William only.

ganachee · 06/01/2023 03:44

Not a surprise - thought that was assumed by most - and a v understandable decision. Harry has zero self awareness. The more he shares the more I feel for the royal family having to deal with him. I don’t doubt he has a few legitimate grievances over the years, likewise William and Charles, but my goodness everything seems about him and Meghan all the time.

georgarina · 06/01/2023 04:11

PicturesOfDogs · 05/01/2023 23:56

You know what, it doesn’t matter whose wife was there.
Nobody has to justify themselves to fucking Harry.
She wasn’t welcome, end of.

100%

This paints them in SUCH a bad light.
They didn't want Meghan there.
Disregarding the obvious reasons why, who is so selfish and disrespectful that they try to override someone's wishes on their deathbed?
When my grandpa died it was just my grandma and their children there.
I literally cannot imagine anyone trying to throw a temper tantrum and muscle their way in when they weren't wanted at such a vulnerable moment.

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 06/01/2023 04:18

I agree with AlmondBake, well said and so true.

FlairBand · 06/01/2023 05:20

OldFan · 05/01/2023 23:41

So, it wasn't just Meghan that wasn't allowed up, Kate wasn't either.

But the Harkles wanted special treatment and freaked out when they didn't get it, as usual.

I think Kate didn’t go in order that they could keep mm away

SnowlayRoundabout · 06/01/2023 05:27

AlmondBake · 06/01/2023 01:00

I imagine it was more about Meghan wanting to support her husband than bag a front row seat at the Queen's bedside. Harry probably wanted Meghan's support at such a difficult, emotional and stressful time for him - especially when things were so tense between him and his father and brother. I can see why he would be very hurt to be told she couldn't go.

And maybe just once he should have put his dying grandmother's needs and those of her children first? After all, he was only going to be away from Meghan for a day or so, and there are such things as phones and FaceTime.

Mooshamoo · 06/01/2023 05:29

bellac11 · 05/01/2023 21:07

Why do people keep calling him Harold, Ive seen this on another thread tonight. His name is Henry

My brother's name is Paul.

We all call him Paulo as a nickname

Snippedasababy · 06/01/2023 05:41

BradfordGirl · 06/01/2023 00:08

@OldFan Most at the time were saying - oh Kate can't come because it is her kids first day at school, but of course she could have gone if she wanted to. Meghan would have been able to go but is no doubt throwing a fit and making demands they don't want to meet.

When the truth is they were told they could not go. Exactly what she said, and was rubbished for it.

At the time the Palace said Kate could not go as it was the kids first day at school, but that seems to be a lie.

I don’t think that was a lie. They knew it was about to be announced that their great grandmother had died. It’s far more sensible for them to have one of their parents with them.

However, that doesn’t mean that an added benefit of it, was that it was easier to keep Meghan away. But that doesn’t mean that’s the actual reason the decision for Kate to stay was a lie. Or that the fact that Kate was staying away, meant that they felt it was better for Meghan to stay away as well.

In all honesty, Harry could have decided to just not go himself. Then gone when the rest of the grandchildren did.

Delorestormborn · 06/01/2023 05:44

Why did she want to go she clearly dislikes them?!

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 06/01/2023 05:51

asblindasabat · 06/01/2023 01:43

I would understand his reaction to this if Kate was allowed to go but she wasn’t either so what’s the big deal.

Why? Kate is a much loved member of the family and been in the family much longer. She doesn't cause them trouble. It's a completely different scenario to Meghan. It's right the palace told Meghan she couldn't attend and the cheek of them complaining about it; after all they've done.

Scarbsbeach · 06/01/2023 05:55

For two people who are making financial capital about how insensitively they have been treated, they show an astounding lack of sensitivity about turning up to gawp at a dying Queen when they had refused an invitation to see her alive in the preceding week of their European visit.

You can’t have this both ways, Harry.

Maireas · 06/01/2023 06:06

They also focus a lot on mental health, yet are astonishingly inconsiderate of the impact of their behaviour on the mental health of others.

Sunbird24 · 06/01/2023 06:11

When I was 21 I had to tell my mum that her mum had died, it was just about the worst thing I’ve ever had to do, being the messenger for something so viscerally painful to someone I love. It astounds me that knowing what it’s like to lose a mother, Harry’s first reaction on getting that call from his dad was to argue with him and make it all about himself. Then to write it in the book in this way and still not see how wrong that was? I can’t even find the words.

Maireas · 06/01/2023 06:16

Because, @Sunbird24 , he appears to be astonishingly self absorbed. He cannot seem to exercise empathy or even basic concern for others.
Why make the Queen's death all about him?