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The royal family

He has gone after Camilla....

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thebellagio · 05/01/2023 13:22

The Sun have got hold of a copy of the book that was accidently put on sale in Spain. They are clearly skimming it as fast as possible with a translator. They are reporting that W&H begged KC not to marry C, and that he thought she was leaking stories to the press.

Bloody hell.

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Roussette · 05/01/2023 20:28

Coxspurplepippin · 05/01/2023 20:26

MrsMaxDeWinter, Roussette, I think everyone understands that people are going to get killed in a war. It just seems so incredibly stupid for him to go on about the number of people he killed, even though he has reflected on his actions, when one of the reasons Harry and Meghan left the UK was for security issues.

If I was them I'd be really concerned about some nutjob taking offence at what he'd written and deciding they were going to wreak revenge. It's not as if no-one knows where he lives for heaven's sake. It would be unbelievable if Meghan hadn't read the book - I cannot for the life of me understand why she'd ok the inclusion of this bit. Monumentally stupid.

Well... I posted upthread that he shouldn't have put a number on it at all. He could've made his point without that.

Walnutwhipsarenothesame · 05/01/2023 20:29

He seems extremely focused on appearances. Hair, him being ginger, his family being amazed he could find a woman as attractive as Meghan. Seeing himself as a stallion. It’s all very superficial. Quite adolescent really.

Blip · 05/01/2023 20:30

I do wonder whether Meghan encouraged the worst excesses of this book so that she will have an excellent excuse for having to leave him.

Walnutwhipsarenothesame · 05/01/2023 20:30

I think she encouraged the excesses to be sure there would be no way back. She doesn’t want to ever go back to the UK.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 05/01/2023 20:30

CriticalAlert · 05/01/2023 20:17

There's no one at The Sun with English GCSE........

Bingo indeed.

They are clearly scanning for names on the pages, then translating the text around them. Which is why they are taking bits out of context, focusing on the text around the name, and not on the passages in context. My favourite is that they are very formally translating "querido niño", as "dear son", when actually it should be "darling boy", which is what Charles calls his sons.

Another stiff translation was "my dear brother and archenemy", from the DM which, as revealed on Good Morning America, was actually the much more literary, and tortured, "my beloved brother and arch-Nemesis".

And of course, I feel sad that readers are missing out on the the power of Moehringer's trademark visceral prose in text translated by people with, at most, A level Spanish! Translation is both a skill and an art.

On the bright side, I hope to use this stuff in a translation masterclass some time this year, to emphasise that literary translation is not the same as literal translation, so thanks DM.

Lesserspottedmama · 05/01/2023 20:31

IveHadEnoughNowFfs · 05/01/2023 15:50

In the book, it’s reported Charles stood between the boys before The DOE funeral and said “please don’t make my last few years miserable”

Sums it up for me really.

By boys you mean two men in their forties? The ones being compared in the book as to who is the baldest?

ajandjjmum · 05/01/2023 20:32

IveHadEnoughNowFfs · 05/01/2023 16:58

Charles should have been with camilla from the start, that’s what they both wanted but Charles was forced to be with Diana. I’m delighted they finally married and she took her rightful place as queen consort

That is not true. Camilla was in love with Andrew PB and used Charles to make him jealous. Charles went off to sea, and whilst he was away learned that Camilla and Andrew were engaged. That was what she wanted at the time.

whynotwhatknot · 05/01/2023 20:33

fartichoke · 05/01/2023 13:42

You say that - but in one of these new publicity interviews he's asked 'do you believe in the monarchy?' and he says 'Yes'.

So he doesn't actually want to bring it down. He just wants to knock it about quite a bit for lots of cash.

Also, in another interview he wants to go to the coronation.

And they want to keep their titles.

Do you not find that a teensy bit hypocritical?

this-complete hypocrite

CoffeandTiaMaria · 05/01/2023 20:34

If this is the first of a 4 book deal just wtf are the next three going to divulge?

Roussette · 05/01/2023 20:34

whynotwhatknot · 05/01/2023 20:33

this-complete hypocrite

But he hasn't said he wants to go to the coronation?

Tom Bradby asked him if he was going to go. He said "a lot can happen between now and then"

That is not saying he wants to go to the coronation. Unless it was in the Anderson Cooper interview? But I've seen the clips of that and coronation wasn't mentioned.

Lesserspottedmama · 05/01/2023 20:35

crabbyapples · 05/01/2023 15:55

This reminds me of gladiator.

Harry: bloodied, defiant, whining screams ''ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED???!!!''

Best comment.

Spect8 · 05/01/2023 20:35

How could anyone take the RF seriously anymore. If only they did something useful I wouldn't mind, but they don't. They know how to wave, pull a little curtain, curtsey, wear nice frocks and jewels and that's about it really.

Harry will have a done a good job if he brings this dysfunctional, pathetic, backbiting, two faced family down. Go Harry, get the bastards, they deserve nothing less than full exposure.

mpsw · 05/01/2023 20:36

BradfordGirl · 05/01/2023 20:16

Just wondering what all those posters who were talking about Harry as not being a real soldier and spending all his time watching TV and playing computer games are now thinking.

If they didn't believe him in 2013 (when he didn't put a figure on it) why would they believe him now (just because he has)?

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/01/2023 20:36

Translation is both a skill and an art.

Indeed - the difference between the "meaning" of the words, and the "sense".

CoffeandTiaMaria · 05/01/2023 20:36

Blip · 05/01/2023 20:30

I do wonder whether Meghan encouraged the worst excesses of this book so that she will have an excellent excuse for having to leave him.

She seems conspicuous by her absence at the moment, seems strangely quiet 🤫
I wonder if she’s loaded the gun and Harry’s delivering?

MrsMaxDeWinter · 05/01/2023 20:36

CoffeandTiaMaria · 05/01/2023 20:34

If this is the first of a 4 book deal just wtf are the next three going to divulge?

He has a deal for only one memoir. The others are books on leadership and a book by Meghan on wellness.

This is the only memoir in the deal.

Blip · 05/01/2023 20:37

Reminds me more of the Black Knight in Monty python

LivelyBlake · 05/01/2023 20:38

Spect8 · 05/01/2023 20:35

How could anyone take the RF seriously anymore. If only they did something useful I wouldn't mind, but they don't. They know how to wave, pull a little curtain, curtsey, wear nice frocks and jewels and that's about it really.

Harry will have a done a good job if he brings this dysfunctional, pathetic, backbiting, two faced family down. Go Harry, get the bastards, they deserve nothing less than full exposure.

No, see, the pathetic and dysfunctional one is Harold.

WinnieTheW0rm · 05/01/2023 20:39

CoffeandTiaMaria · 05/01/2023 20:34

If this is the first of a 4 book deal just wtf are the next three going to divulge?

The Bench was the first

Spare is the second

There's meant to be a wellness-type book in the offing

And (more speculatively) Meghan's memoirs

bakalava · 05/01/2023 20:40

CoffeandTiaMaria · 05/01/2023 20:36

She seems conspicuous by her absence at the moment, seems strangely quiet 🤫
I wonder if she’s loaded the gun and Harry’s delivering?

Not publicly standing by her man after years of eyelash fluttering and thigh rubbing. This is the greatest love story. Up your love game, Meghan!

FirThusThraed · 05/01/2023 20:42

Meghan is working him like Sooty and has been since Day One.

MuftiDay · 05/01/2023 20:43

@Spect8
Agreed. A thoroughly unimpressive shower, despite having the best PR staff, advisers, etc.

Blip · 05/01/2023 20:43

Surely Meghan won't be planning to stand by and support this utter mess.

Rockybooboo · 05/01/2023 20:44

ProserpinaProserpina · 05/01/2023 14:15

Has James Hewitt possibly being his father actually ever been DNA tested? I can’t help but feel like Harry has massively distanced himself from the family for a significant reason and I wonder if his parentage could be involved.

The negative things will be published in the Sun and do you really read the Sun after some of the appalling things they've been involved with.

Blip · 05/01/2023 20:45

How will either of them ever get work again, I struggle to see it.

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