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He has gone after Camilla....

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thebellagio · 05/01/2023 13:22

The Sun have got hold of a copy of the book that was accidently put on sale in Spain. They are clearly skimming it as fast as possible with a translator. They are reporting that W&H begged KC not to marry C, and that he thought she was leaking stories to the press.

Bloody hell.

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TumbleJots · 05/01/2023 17:15

Adeckofcards · 05/01/2023 17:13

Know nothing about C's smoking habits but its well known and publicised that they live separately. The secret of a successful marriage imo. and I'd do it if I could afford to!

So would many of us!

Adeckofcards · 05/01/2023 17:15

OhMonDieux · 05/01/2023 17:12

There was no affair.

It was a nasty rumour and some people were silly enough to fall for it.

Maybe there was and maybe there wasn't......he's stopped us finding out for sure.

Strange he took out an injunction though when there are plenty of other things he and many other members of the RF could take injunctions out for.

TrashyPanda · 05/01/2023 17:16

LlynTegid · 05/01/2023 16:06

My overwhelming feeling is sadness, whatever part of the various accounts are true or not.

I don't forget that the Duke of Sussex served this country in the military.

Serving in the military does not necessarily mean the person is a decent human being.

there are all manner of unsavoury people who have done military service.

EdinaMonsoon · 05/01/2023 17:16

I'm surprised at the number of people thinking it's comical that H was scared by W's behaviour. I've been on the receiving end of very similar behaviour (shouting, shoving & hitting) in adulthood from an older toxic sibling and honestly it was a shocking & traumatic experience. The idea that I could be made fun of for sharing that is really disturbing, tbh. Also, is it not in the public interest to know that someone who will at some point be King could behave with a vile temper? After all, it seems to have been considered to be in the public interest for the press to go after M & expose her allegedly vile temper?

Going after C: well I can see why both H&W would (allegedly) ask KC not to marry her. Some adults can struggle when their surviving parent wishes to remarry and that's true with a partner with whom they hadn't had an affair with. Your father declaring his intention to marry the woman with whom they had openly had an affair with for the duration of their marriage to your mother - I think many people would struggle with that. And yes, it seems they have moved past it if the smiling and chats in public settings are anything to go by but if we believe the "never complain never explain" approach of the RF then of course they're not going to be rude and surly towards her in public!

That said, I do think H was wrong to write the book for many reasons, not least of which is the contradiction of hoping to reconcile with C & W in the future. I don't see how that could possibly happen now. Overall he seems a damaged soul.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 05/01/2023 17:18

This is the problem of reading these excerpts out of context, not only of the book itself, but also the real context in which all this happened.

William was introduced to Camilla in July 1998. He was 16. Harry was still 13. Their mother had died just the year before, in August 1997. Yes, their parents were divorced, but meeting the Other Woman as both of them saw her, within a year of their mother's death would have been deeply upsetting for teenage boys.
www.theguardian.com/theguardian/1998/jul/10/fromthearchive

Something horrible then happened: the meeting was leaked to the Sun. It was leaked by Camilla's private secretary. He was then fired, but it's clear that the leak benefitted Camilla.This was all reported at the time.

www.thefreelibrary.com/CAMILLA+FIRES+HER+TOP+AIDE%3B+Fury+at+leak+over+William+meeting.-a060670605

Yes I agree if there is any truth behind Harry being involved in any way the killing of twenty five people - regardless of the setting/war, there will have to be a full investigation, potentially a legal one that could end up with him serving life in prison.

Goodness @Swissmountains. What on earth do you think soldiers do in war zones? What do you think the War on Terror meant? It meant the killing of insurgents in Afghanistan. Of course there won't be an investigation. Why would there be? Unless you are saying Harry and other UK solders committed war crimes when they followed lawful orders given to them by senior officials, which can only be determined by the International Criminal Court in The Hague, not by random posters on Mumsnet.

diddl · 05/01/2023 17:18

JonahCL9 · 05/01/2023 17:00

@diddl if the bombshells you're waiting for include how Harry lost his virginity, then you're in luck! 😳

Just seen a headline "She treated me like a young stallion".

Will not be reading!

oakleaffy · 05/01/2023 17:18

doubleshotcappuccino · 05/01/2023 16:35

Meghan was a Godsend and they blew it .. she wasn't perfect but she was emblematic of a new RF able to embrace a foreign working divorcee with a black mum . It has gone spectacularly wrong .. and no amount of sugar coating will take away the instigators of a lot of Meghan's isolation who are obviously Camilla and Kate . Such a shame as doesn't do anything for women being cast as the schemers but in this case it's obvious that these two could have done a lot more (anything) to speak up for Meghan . The other issue is that M and H have a global wattage .. quite righty many identify with this amazing couple more than those living behind glass houses and photo finish images ... RF could have been part of it but they blew it ...

What a load of old hooey!
”Amazing couple “

Hardly!
There were issues from the get-go, the bizarre wedding with just one family member on the Wife’s side?
It was all very bizarre.
Meghan was not cut out for the life of a “
Royal”
Liked the money and fame, but not having to defer to others.

It’s pretty clear about the protocol the RF has.

Blossomtoes · 05/01/2023 17:20

😂😂😂😂😂

oakleaffy · 05/01/2023 17:20

diddl · 05/01/2023 17:18

Just seen a headline "She treated me like a young stallion".

Will not be reading!

Whaat?
” She treated me like a young stallion?”
It’s obvious he was **struck, but this is comically cringeworthy.

bakalava · 05/01/2023 17:21

Oh, I did. I said the dog needed a lot of doggy therapy. I wonder if the kids are made to attend therapy yet? A whole household in therapy including the pooches. Only in Cali.

MoirasSaggyBundles · 05/01/2023 17:21

FirstnameSuesecondnamePerb · 05/01/2023 14:32

It's like he has taken his ""book of angry thoughts" and given it to a ghost writer!

It's like the Burn Book from Mean Girls, photocopied and strewn all over the school premises by the principal villain of the piece.

TumbleJots · 05/01/2023 17:21

Yes, I laughed when he said he was treated as a "YOUNG STALLION" by the woman whom he lost his virginity to!

A mixture of Barbara Cartland and Jilly Cooper.

What an embarrassing clown.

IveHadEnoughNowFfs · 05/01/2023 17:21

barnbaby · 05/01/2023 17:13

She smokes like a chimney! But not in front of cameras for sure.
Round here people feel like they have watched the whole relationship develop. When they were having an affair, she would drop her young children round to a hunt friend of hers who lived in a village near malmesbury. Then she and Charles would meet at an art studio that Charles had purchased for his friend Neil Forster who taught him to paint. Neil was a famous philanderer and more than happy to let his two friends meet to consummate their passion! The duchy only sold the studio a couple of years ago it is now an estate agents!
I have met Camilla and she is fun but I wouldn’t trust her with a secret. They are both huge drinkers. When he is at Highgrove he takes tea and scotch at 4pm in his folly and must not be disturbed by anyone for half an hour. The evenings drinking commences from there.

BREAKING NEWS

Mumsnetter definitely knows all the facts and absolutely isn’t making up stories because she’s bored!

This is a breaking story, more to follow.

Inkanta · 05/01/2023 17:23

He is obviously really hurt that the RF have been using him as a scapegoat for them. And the British public lapped it up headline after headline and villainised M&H. What was written about them was vile and the public couldn't bay loud enough for more of it every day.
Bit late to say its very sad its being played out in public. The royalists absolutely lapped it up. He is doing to them what they did to him.
There are no winners here

Yes. That's my take on it too.

Rhondaa · 05/01/2023 17:23

diddl · 05/01/2023 17:18

Just seen a headline "She treated me like a young stallion".

Will not be reading!

🙈🤮

Blip · 05/01/2023 17:23

Could M take out a conservatorship of poor Harrold like Britney had?

Adeckofcards · 05/01/2023 17:24

lemmein · 05/01/2023 16:17

*You must have delved deep!

Tell me , as a staunch H and M supporter , do you think this book will enhance or destroy their reputation? Do you think Harry is right to tell his story in this way ?

Genuinely interested .*

I guess anyone going through my posts would assume I'm also a staunch H&M supporter. Actually though, my support of H&M has nothing at all to do with them at all, I don't know them - it's more a criticism of the media and the power of the elite in this country.

I don't agree with 'palace sources' leaking to the press and those on the receiving end of those stories being slated for giving their side. Even worse, you get your point across by gossiping to the press, but maintain your moral superiority with 'never complain,never explain' - it's so underhand I can see why that would piss off the Sussexes.

I don't agree with the rewriting of history, pretending the racism directed towards M was all in her head and she should shush about it anyway and go and do charity work or something. Phrases like 'she was welcomed by the British public' and 'we thought she was a breath of fresh air' is clearly bullshit. The racist tones were there right from the beginning.

I don't think we should even have a royal family. The whole concept is archaic and has no place in a modern society. The serf like mentality it depends on is really, really depressing. Why is anybody defending these people? Baffles me.

I despise the power the press has in this country - every single one of these threads highlight that. People parrot the likes of the DM without any critical thought at all - if the press can get the whole country to hate one woman for very little (what has she actually done? Confused) they are too powerful. We all should have a problem with that.

I think Harry has every right to tell his story, in whatever way he sees fit. It's interesting that people have no problem with the endless drivel written about them by royal 'commentators' but have a huge issue when Harry speaks about his own life. The likes of Angela Levin can write a book about him when she's been in his presence for 15 minutes - that's fine and lapped up, Harry was being told to shut up on here before he even spoke 😅

And today, the latest hypocrisy is the amount of mental-gymnastics people are doing to defend PW attacking his brother. In no other circumstances would two men going head-to-head be condoned on this site - but, PW....so it's fine 🤷🏻‍♀️

H&M's reputation is of no relevance to me - this is much, much bigger than either of them.

I agree with you. Its refreshing to read a post like this on this thread. Thank you.

LadyEloise1 · 05/01/2023 17:25

coolmum123 · 05/01/2023 17:10

Has he mentioned anything about why they had a high turnover of staff and why they left? Or is he not going down that bit of the road?

That would be an interesting reply to hear.

healthadvice123 · 05/01/2023 17:25

@lemmein why because they are human as well
Some very spiteful people in this world

Inkanta · 05/01/2023 17:27

Yes lemmein my thoughts exactly.

BethDuttonsTwin · 05/01/2023 17:27

Begoniasforever · 05/01/2023 16:58

The killing of afghanis is a massive thing, it’s huge for him to announce that as a senior member of the British royal family he killed 25 afghanis, which will be seen as murder. There could be huge retaliation. Soldiers do not reveal this, never mind sell it for cash .

it is beyond appalling and foolish of him. He is an utter idiot, but so far this is the single most serious thing he’s revealed.

everythung else is petty squabbles. But this is something else entirely

Agree. Sobering stuff and by far the most foolhardy thing he’s said. Odd for someone who claims his raison d’être is protecting his family from all comers. How can he not realise?

Rhondaa · 05/01/2023 17:27

'And today, the latest hypocrisy is the amount of mental-gymnastics people are doing to defend PW attacking his brother'

'Attacking his brother', were you there? We only have Harold's side of the story and as we know he often gets a bit muddled and varies his recollections. If his brother grabbed him in exasperation and he slipped and feel in the dog bowl then so what. 2 grown men having a scuffle.

TrashyPanda · 05/01/2023 17:28

mixedrecycling · 05/01/2023 16:30

Are you saying I am being spiteful?

It is quoted by The Guardian as being in Harry's book. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/05/prince-harry-diana-new-book-autobiography-spare

No, not at all and I’m sorry if it read that way.

i meant Harry was nasty and spiteful to relate it.

newnamethanks · 05/01/2023 17:28

Was it George IV who regaled visitors with tales of his derring-do on the field of Waterloo? That this was a complete fabrication and he'd never been near there bothered him not. When you're Royal, it seems, you cannot be wrong. No wonder Harry wants security. Thousands of Afghans have now had their suspicions about Brits further confirmed and are probably even more thoroughly and justifiably annoyed.

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