Harry alleges/describes William physically attacking him in 2019

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www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Not really sure what to make of this tbh…

You're not comparing like with like there, most obviously because Meghan is a woman, and also American - what's that quote about two nations divided by a common language?

You're also comparing a sister-in-law with a fairly distant cousin. I'm sure William thinks Gary is a top bloke but there's nothing in that dynamic to upset the 'natural order of things'. An educated, articulate, assertive American woman married to his younger brother? I could certainly see him perceiving her in a certain way and being more likely to take issue with her behaviour, while Uncle Andrew's staff running up flights of stairs to open his curtains and arrange his teddies is just par for the course.

This 'leak' must be a PR stunt from Harry's camp to get more people to pre order the book?

Like the documentary, as soon as the book drops all of the juiciest bits are going to be all over the Internet within hours and it won't be worth bothering to actually buy it!

Harry says the first thing he did after William 'attacked' him was speed dial his therapist. Yet according to him and Meghan, she wasn't allowed to access mental health support while she was in the UK? Honestly, I can't believe a word they say.

Harry knows William won't tell his side of these stories.

Harry is confident that he can say almost anything he likes as long as he just treads a little bit carefully with his wording.

That's pretty cuntish IMO.

Got to say same, this whole thing has totally cracked me up. A) the "fight" and B) the positioning of it as a high stakes combat to the death like Sir Gawain and Gologras. I can't believe how po-faced some posters here are being. Would you not ever lighten up? Someone upthread suggested reporting Willy to Social Services "you know where he lives" and I just snorted out loud in laughter.

I agree - and it doesn't show William up as badly as it does Harry, TBH - he looks like a right soft nowt whining on like this.

This lacks critical thinking. When it’s been said for money and to sell books from someone known to twist the truth, then only the foolish would not think through all the angles.

and really all that was said was he grabbed his collar and harry fell over. Not great but hardly some world ending scandal.

I've got a mental image of them both with their faces turned away, just slopingly wildly at each other . . .

I had never even heard of Lady Davina and Gary Lewis. They are pretty distantly related to Prince William. And I read that the marriage ended due to "cultural differences".

Its all she said he said stuff.

There is no evidence except who do you believe.

Not true - in this case we know that the concerns were such to lead a senior staff member to feel he had to make an official compliant about her bullying in 2019, and we have seen the actual email. So we know that genuine concerns existed, and were escalated. That’s physical, contemporaneous evidence, and considerably more persuasive than “he said she said”

*slapping, not slopingly

Oh, dear!

Except this is made up.
I wish people would stop lying. It is tiresome.

Excellent post by NewspaperTaxis

Your personal knowledge is relevant why?

You may not have known them but William and his wider family clearly did. So it is wrong to suggest that Meghan was the very first time the Royal Family had to interact with someone not fro the 0.01%

An official complaint was made. An enquiry was held. No report or even a summary was published. The enquiry may have found there was no bullying.
So yes the only evidence the public know about is at the level of he said she said.

I just don't like how at the end of the day this is about real people and a long standing institution of this country being discussed all while in the. Name of making Harry money - there is no altruism here

I'm sure the republicans are salivating but seriously the best reason people give for abolishing the monarchy is: they are weird (none of us actually know them), I wouldn't want their job (ok not a problem) and they cost us money (which has been discussed to death as not as much as they bring in)

If anything on the last point hasn't this whole fiasco with Harry shown the interest in the physical monarchy (not just the palace and carriage)

But this is the vicious circle.

You have this view and yet read the title, read the link, and we’re the first to comment. Which indicates… interest

I sense that maybe she wasn't allowed to use the therapist or therapeutic facility she had chosen, perhaps due to them not willing to sign a watertight NDA? I'd imagine the RF wouldn't like dirt about them published by the organisers of a questionable retreat. Alternatively, maybe she wanted to go on one of those famous cactus eating retreats and the palace thought that wound's be a good idea?

Oh don't be ridiculous.
Déan deifir is an Irish phrase meaning hurry up, very obvious. Look at previous posts of JaneJeffer's on the Irish boards if you want.

*wouldn't

Nobody has ever said Meghan could not talk to a therapist. She said she was not allowed to go to a residential facility.
I wish people would get basic facts right.

I'm.pretty sure Hazza could knock Wills out if he wanted to!!

I too find it interesting that the argument was allegedly about Meghan being rude etc. Also, as pp have said, this is not the first time this argument has been touched upon but previously it was said in Tom Bowers book that William went to see Harry as a result of Harry hanging up on him during a phone call to discuss the issue of Meghan’s alleged behaviour. I presume, although I don’t have a timeline, that the splitting of the households happened after this incident no wouldn’t imagine that was something that would have been undertaken without a very good reason as it must be quite a difficult and complex procedure. So Harry may well be being very deleting what he reveals about the whole incident here

OK he attended very posh schools but he is bound to have mixed with ordinary people at St Andrews, in the Army and in his time with Air ambulance.

It's actually quite odd that everyone on here seems to remember Harry as the army guy but forgets that William is also a trained army officer.

I'm finding this quite funny, the necklace (not a manly chain), the dog bowl (was it China or solid silver) where was the dog(s). Who's was the dog?
Did the dog 🐕 get involved in the argument?
Did William and Harry both laugh 😃 when H landed in the bowl ? I mean how could you not both end up giggling?

Definitely not normal for two 30 something brothers to have a proper scrap.

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