Harry alleges/describes William physically attacking him in 2019

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www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Not really sure what to make of this tbh…

amazing psychological insights into someone you know nothing about based on the hours and hours of stuff he's now putting out "in his own words" - his version, their true story etc etc. This is not tittle tattle in the press - this is stuff he wants us to know, voiced by him either on screen or in his book. It's how he chooses to present himself.

William and Kate's close friends (or 'friends') in Norfolk and London all know that William had a long affair with Rose Hanbury.

No evidence- well that applies to a lot of crimes including domestic incidents. What kind of evidence do you want??

And because you don't like Harry, you now have decided that he's lying? It's more than likely true, albeit his version of what happened. Pretty big thing to lie about.

As is evidenced on this thread, there needs no evidence or fact, HAM just require to make wooly words alluding to something and its factual!

No, don't really buy that theory for one moment .

Given he's been through a pilot training course he will have had to interact and engage with fairly average people (in the crew room, on the flight line with his instructors, plus others) and he will have been interacting with managers, paramedics, crew etc during his period working as a civilian helicopter pilot.

(& yes I’m counting eton as “ordinary “ inasmuch as they have a very large scholarship cohort / full bursaries and a lot of overseas students of various nationalities). He has emphatically not been exclusively around white upper class people.

This is not someone coming forward to the police or social services, it's an accusation being made in a profit making and career enhancing enterprise

You either take accusations seriously or you don’t.

Probably nothing

It's Starmer's big policy statement today.

If anything's getting buried, it'll be because of that (known, planned) event, not a bit of unexpected royal one-sided gossip

Allegations that William is a cheat and an entitled one too do not come from Harry and or Meghan.

No he didn’t.

It makes me laugh when attending Eton school is described as attending an ordinary school. As if William went to the local comprehensive.
He is a Prince and Heir, of course he did not attend ordinary schools.

The irony of peddling perceived family slights for a grubby press dollar (the very institution you claim killed your Mother, hated your wife blah blah blah) is not lost on the vast majority of free-thinking people in this county.

Yes, they're feeding the beast and it could really be dangerous for their children. But 'me me me me me me me'. Poor kids.

I do think the staff have NDAs and I think that is quite abusive in itself if they've been bullied. Can they talk about it with private therapists? If not that is really abusive. It would be very interesting to hear their side of the story, but normal people probably don't want the level of press intrusion Harry courts.

Obviously violence is never ok, but there is no real evidence of this. William standing up for staff puts him in quite a good light. Of course, we don't know if this is true either but I can see why Harry would make up lies / exaggerate negative things but don't really know why he'd say something that makes William look like a decent human. But then again, maybe H&M see staff as not fully human lessers so he didn't realise how this would come across.

@notimagain

All of those mentioned he will have interacted with on a professional basis - ie exclusively work/role connected - not a personal one. So the point still stands.

Please, please, pleeeease, Channel 4, do another series of The Windsors that covers all this stuff and the Netflix documentary. Please.

God…enough already. Harry has become such a sniveling, money-grubbing shell of his former self. His self-destruction is pitiful to witness. The more he talks, the less credibility he has.

There really is no coming back from this, is there? Time for the RF to completely drop him. Harry knew the damage that would come from talking to the press, but he chose to sell his soul for money. He will regret it.

The Palace is a bit of a cult and when you leave a cult you tend to get it in the neck - your very existence is a challenge and an affront, so you get into the 'battle of the narratives' and this seems to be what is going on here.

It's the same for anyone who leaves the Church of Scientology. It even happened after the Beatles split - music journalists were down on Paul because he ostensibly quit first, then went after Yoko because she was seen as the trouble behind it all. It's iffy because if you start blaming too many people it casts aspersions on the whole set-up itself - and its followers.

Not saying Harry and Meghan are great people either, I don't care and this stand-off described in his book seems a bit something of nothing - but we are being invited to take sides when neither party would welcome or accept our long-term company I'd suggest.

How have i minimised? Is it the word tussle you don't approve of?

Or the fact that i find it strange that we're talking about a man falling into a dog bowl as newsworthy?

You mean the Christmas lunches that about 200 extended family members attend?

I mean to the ones to which the Queen’s direct family (children and grandchildren), her niece, nephew and her four cousins (Thee Kents, one Gloucester) are invited. I haven’t personally counted up how many adults are included in that, but I doubt it would be anywhere near 200. William obviously considered both lady Davina and Gary Lewis part of his family as they were also invited to his wedding in 2011.

They also appeared with the rest of the family at the Trooping the Colour balcony appearances. Definitely not 200 people on that!

Oh goodness-not it's W&K`s fault that he wore the Nazi uniform!

@Laiste A tussle suggests a mutual fight. What is being described is a physical attack.
I don't care if you believe Harry or not. I do think minimising violence is dangerous. I already see here in comments some people describing family violence with the attitude that it is normal. It is not and should never be minimised.

Yep this is very well written and sums it up really.

Look at the pair of them, Charles and William - both displaying angry petulant outbursts whether reported by staff or caught on camera ('stinking pen') and both cheats, yet we're manipulated into thinking that they should be looked up to. What a piece of abject nonsense.

Under the bus you go, like everyone else. Everyone is laughing. I hope the royal couple stay quiet. I hope Harry is not getting any money from the royal family

Except of course other Royals have been MH in-patients, so that claim doesn't stack up either

No, not all accusations are equal and pretending they are harms victims of abuse the most.

Here you go - here's an accusation someone could make 'Prince Harry hit my baby in the face'. Should this be taken seriously? If there is no evidence the person ever met Harry in real life and they were paid for the accusation? It's not true, it's a lie.

Accusations are often made up for profit and press attention. How accusations are made matters, and it matters not just for the individual case but for victims of abuse too. If Z list celebs are constantly making up lies which don't stack up, it makes it harder for real victims of abuse to be taken seriously.