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Harry alleges/describes William physically attacking him in 2019

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Rinoachicken · 05/01/2023 00:10

www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Not really sure what to make of this tbh…

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PlinkPlonkFizz · 05/01/2023 08:29

Miss03852 · 05/01/2023 01:47

Anyone who has ever had a narcissistic tyrant boss knows how awful that is. Do you actually think continuous bullying is better than two brothers having a scrap? Anyone who thinks this has never dealt with an abusive employer before.

THIS 100% 👍

BestKnitterInScotland · 05/01/2023 08:30

fartichoke · 05/01/2023 08:22

The whole book, according to the Guardian, is Harry's resentment about being the 'spare' to the heir. Fucking hell, he's coming across as a proper knob.

Well exactly. It is what it is. He was never going to be as important and high-profile as his big brother. This has been blindingly obvious since he was born.

Yet after 40 years he's STILL banging on about how unfair it is and how hard done by he is. Poor Harry, with his good health, happy marriage, multi-million pound home, two healthy children. SO hard done by.

RhymeHasAReason · 05/01/2023 08:30

HotChoxs · 05/01/2023 08:25

It really is. Throw in the fact that the alleged victim is a wealthy Prince who can jet off to live in a US mansion free of charge with police escort in tow and it's ludicrous.

It’s people’s thought process that it shows. To be a victim, you have to be poor or small built for example. It’s like when people think rich people can’t suffer from depression.

StartupRepair · 05/01/2023 08:31

Harry is clearly now a full member of the Markle clan. About 5 years till Jerry Springer.

slideintomxas · 05/01/2023 08:31

This is all so pathetic.
Show me any two brothers close in age that haven’t had physical altercations throughout their lives. If every fight they’ve ever had was documented it would likely fill a volume of books.
I expect a large majority of the country is rolling their eyes at the radio this morning. I know I certainly am. Harry sounds like a right whingey pain in the arse.

MarshaMelrose · 05/01/2023 08:31

A victim of domestic abuse from his brother,

It's not domestic abuse. 🙄

Lockupyourbiscuits · 05/01/2023 08:32

So William was cross about the staff being bullied
Harry was cross about Meghan being accused

are we really to believe William was the most cross here ?

I cannot believe Harry stood there passively- we have seen evidence of a brawl with photographers in the past

This sounds ridiculously one sided
I think the only truth is he ended up on the dog bowl how he got there we don’t know

He spilled his guts when Meghan got home who then knew William and Kate didn’t like her so that’s what started all this

I think he was encouraged not to leave this but out the book - I don’t know how this can go forward

No witnesses - clever

Treetrim · 05/01/2023 08:33

This makes Prince william look very bad and I would have had more sympathy before this. The fact that he physically attacked him says a lot about how he viewed the relationship

BugafterBug · 05/01/2023 08:33

It’s all very Jeremy Kyle show isn’t it

BethJ62 · 05/01/2023 08:33

The alleged alteration is straight out of MN - the OP ( Harry/ Harold) remains calm while the other person ( William/ Willy) screams and shouts .

Treetrim · 05/01/2023 08:34

slideintomxas · 05/01/2023 08:31

This is all so pathetic.
Show me any two brothers close in age that haven’t had physical altercations throughout their lives. If every fight they’ve ever had was documented it would likely fill a volume of books.
I expect a large majority of the country is rolling their eyes at the radio this morning. I know I certainly am. Harry sounds like a right whingey pain in the arse.

Not as adults and we all fought like cats as children. As adults you have and show respect for each other

Serenster · 05/01/2023 08:34

MarshaMelrose · 05/01/2023 07:22

But I thought it was William giving these stories about Meghan to the press? So why does Harry accuse William of believing the made up stuff in the press if he believes that it originated from William in the first place?

It doesn't make sense.

Yes, this doesn’t make sense at all.

Harry wold have been better to claim that he was confronting William about leaking this untrue nonsense about his wife to the press (so he can position himself as the righteous one against the pantomime villain brother). Mind you, as we know, the Netflix film and the book were completed at different ties and by different people, so they presumably hadn’t had the chance to fully think through how they wanted to present things, and ensure they were consistent!

Merrymouse · 05/01/2023 08:34

BethJ62 · 05/01/2023 08:33

The alleged alteration is straight out of MN - the OP ( Harry/ Harold) remains calm while the other person ( William/ Willy) screams and shouts .

I think all of this is just one massive AIBU.

BestKnitterInScotland · 05/01/2023 08:35

BethJ62 · 05/01/2023 08:33

The alleged alteration is straight out of MN - the OP ( Harry/ Harold) remains calm while the other person ( William/ Willy) screams and shouts .

Yes, all we need is a new revelation that Hazza was "literally shaking and crying".

potniatheron · 05/01/2023 08:35

The wording doesn't ring true for me at all.

Look we've all got sons, brothers, partners, husbands, fathers, male friends. Most of us have seen how a minor fight between two relatively well brought up men goes.

It's a tussle. It's more like westling. It's slow, awkward and chaotic. Someone pulls someone, someone pushes someone. A punch gets thrown and misses or doesn't quite land. Especially when the two fellows are middle aged and middle class or above. It's not like a fight between two tooled up, boozed up young nutters outside a B League football ground. It's awkward, slow and a bit of a letdown. (Unless one of the combatants has frontline close combat training and would instinctively defend themselves of course, but that doesn't seem to have happened here.)

So that's what a real middle aged middle class 'fight' is like. A slow, awkward, embarrassing tussle. Whereas what's being described in this extract is a scene from a Marvel movie. One assailant, moving 'so, so fast'. The other person doing nothing to defend themselves. The assailant possessed of such superhuman strength that he's able to THROW the other person to the floor in ONE GO (ever tried that? It's surprisingly difficult. Human beings are quite good at staying on their feet when they have to. Especially when they're younger, heavier and fitter than the assailant). Younger person falls with such force that he breaks a dog bowl which tend to be ceramic, shallow, thick sides. He broke it??? Did he fall from 40 feet, is William really that strong? Or was Harry wearing chainmail? Press X to doubt this detail.

The assailant them STORMS out, pausing only, Arnie-like, to deliver the final, chilling last word - although he forgets himself and uses his victim's pet name, weird thing to do after a terrifying smackdown,

Nah, it didn't happen like this.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 05/01/2023 08:35

Vermin · 05/01/2023 08:21

Blaming Kate and William for his decision to wear the nazi costume (when he had suggested it to them, along with one other, and was the one to actually hire it and wear it) also shows him to be a petulant little brat who cannot accept personal responsibility for anything.

It just sums him up. Nothing is ever his fault. It's always someone else's. He's pathetic and trapped in a victim mentality.

DillDanding · 05/01/2023 08:36

Show me any two brothers close in age that haven’t had physical altercations throughout their lives.

Brothers close in age might scrap when they’re very small children, not when adults! I suspect William is both arrogant and emotionally stunted, hence lashing out.

Aurorabored · 05/01/2023 08:36

Will no one think of the dog! Two entitled pricks broke its bowl.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 05/01/2023 08:37

Treetrim · 05/01/2023 08:33

This makes Prince william look very bad and I would have had more sympathy before this. The fact that he physically attacked him says a lot about how he viewed the relationship

Did you see the proof he physically assaulted him? There's absolutely no proof but the word of someone has been caught in lies many times.

Blip · 05/01/2023 08:37

So I assume that the ghost writer sat down with Harry and said tell me your best story for this book Harry. Harry says I was in the army for 10 years and in two active tours of duty but then when I was 34 my brother pushed me over in the kitchen and I landed on my dogs bowl which left a bruise. I phoned my therapist straight away for emergency support.

And this is the highlight of the whole book as reported by the Guardian who have obtained an advance copy.

PicturesOfDogs · 05/01/2023 08:37

Plot twist: He didn’t break his ‘necklace’, he broke his wire/recording device

Merrymouse · 05/01/2023 08:38

Not as adults and we all fought like cats as children. As adults you have and show respect for each other

But I think it’s safe to assume that most families are a bit more functional than the Windsors.

TheCockatoosCrest · 05/01/2023 08:38

I don't think the Royal Family should comment at all. I do think they should waive the NDAs for the Sussex Survivors Club. That can be done privately of course. The Sussex Survivors Club should then go to the likes of Chanel 4 to create their own documentary of lived experience. All the while the palace stay silent.

Harry and Meghan will not have recourse under the NDAs, the staff are employed by the Palace.

Serenster · 05/01/2023 08:38

daretodenim · 05/01/2023 06:27

This.

And there's no way if he was bruised and physically injured there aren't photos.

So, Meehan's book and then the photos, just in time for Coronation Weekend?

Yes - If Meghan videoed the proposal live I can’t see any way she wouldn’t have snapped a picture of Harry’s bruises after having been assaulted by his brother. I wonder if we’ll see that at some point?

Snowmoab · 05/01/2023 08:38

But I thought it was William giving these stories about Meghan to the press? So why does Harry accuse William of believing the made up stuff in the press if he believes that it originated from William in the first place?

Hah very good point. This is the trouble when you lie, hard to keep track of them all. So willy wasn't the leak or he was and Harry has embellished/made up this altercation. Interesting.

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