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Harry alleges/describes William physically attacking him in 2019

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Rinoachicken · 05/01/2023 00:10

www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Not really sure what to make of this tbh…

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custardbear · 05/01/2023 06:52

SantaCarlaCalifornia · 05/01/2023 01:05

Can I believe it happened? Yes
Do I believe that is the whole story? Absolutely not.

Absolutely!
Brothers fight, so do sisters for that matter. As usual Harry tells his victim/Disney version of events, made to try to show him and Meghan in the best light possible, and everyone else look like pantomime villains... he's definitely burnt his bridges.
It's also funny he's done these interviews before the release of the book - is it going to be interviews to cross examine stories - or is it blind to the interviewers so they can't dig down into the book?
No matter what though it shows whining Harry again airing his dirty laundry - and as always MM seems to be the lowest common denominator... funny that always seems to be the case

Tamarindtree · 05/01/2023 06:53

Harry in public always looked cheerful and happy and had a good rapport with his brother and sister in law and then he got married and ever since he has mostly appeared in public looking troubled, down trodden and seething and now has a huge rift with his family.

MistletoeandBaileys · 05/01/2023 06:54

I don’t believe it is as described. Maybe a shove in a shoulder but not an attack. As PP said if it was the case there would be pictures. Although if going by online this morning means anything people seem to be firmly on Williams side. This allegation is extremely serious though.

This isn’t going to be the outcome Harry is hoping for. I would be interested to see if Charles or William put out a statement. If Harry does turn his face up at the coronation in May I don’t think he will have a very warm reception from his family or the British public.

He has gone full scorched earth.

Cariadz · 05/01/2023 06:55

HotChoxs · 05/01/2023 06:47

It's true, but I can't reconcile the fact that a guy of his size gets knocked over without some serious force behind it.

I can’t get over him referring to his necklace. 🙈

As shallow as I am.

clairelip · 05/01/2023 06:56

fatsocatso · 05/01/2023 00:50

The last quote from Charles at Prince Philip's funeral is so terribly sad. 'Please boys, don't make my last years a misery'.

That's exactly what Harry did to the Queen. I can't get over how he could be so cruel to her

Snowmoab · 05/01/2023 06:57

vera99 · 05/01/2023 06:34

Harold should go to his Uncle Andrew and say "you derrrrty old man".......

Yet he never mentions Andrew, weird eh.

Maybe I'm from a rough as arse place but 2 brothers fighting doesn't seem that extreme to me.

HotChoxs · 05/01/2023 06:57

MistletoeandBaileys · 05/01/2023 06:54

I don’t believe it is as described. Maybe a shove in a shoulder but not an attack. As PP said if it was the case there would be pictures. Although if going by online this morning means anything people seem to be firmly on Williams side. This allegation is extremely serious though.

This isn’t going to be the outcome Harry is hoping for. I would be interested to see if Charles or William put out a statement. If Harry does turn his face up at the coronation in May I don’t think he will have a very warm reception from his family or the British public.

He has gone full scorched earth.

Yeah I'm not buying it either, guy that size would have to have been hit pretty hard to get 'knocked down' and would have had an impact other than just his back.

TimeBurglar · 05/01/2023 06:58

I have 2 boys. They get into minor fractions on occasion. Sometimes one comes off a bit worse. They aren't putting it on the front page of the news.

Also, this thing about being rich enough. LOL. I know quite a few rich people, and believe me, they are the least generous and terrified of being poor. They will never say, oh we have £100m that's enough. They will spend more and need more to maintain their lifestyle. It is called greed.

Enough now Harry. We are sick of you.

ShamedBySiri · 05/01/2023 07:02

I want to know what sort of dog bowl they had which broke so easily. Of course Meghan might have chosen a delicate bone china one but most dog bowls are very sturdy pottery and wouldn't break as a result of someone falling on top of one. Dropped from a height yes. But a soft body impact - I don't believe so.

Someone needs to buy a load of dog bowls and test them.

ShamedBySiri · 05/01/2023 07:03

@Cariadz Grin

DewinDwl · 05/01/2023 07:03

Agog at people falling over themselves to justify and minimise an assault, defend the perpetrator and mock the victim.

I wonder what this board's reaction would have been if the allegation was that H hit W.

WinnieTheW0rm · 05/01/2023 07:04

I saw The Times version.

Willy and Harold.

Really?

Pearl664 · 05/01/2023 07:06

All a load of horseshit. He's an adult with money, a beautiful home and a lovely wife and children. He should be counting his blessings.

But he doesn't because he's eaten up with anger. All this horseshit about privacy, the way he was treated by the institution etc. He's furious because he and Meghan wanted to monetise their position in the royal family and the Queen was having none of it. He can't take it out on her so William is in the firing line.

Cutting ribbons and shaking hands with plebs wasn't enough for this greedy pair. You've sold your soul Harry. I hope it was worth it.

MattDamon · 05/01/2023 07:07

DewinDwl · 05/01/2023 07:03

Agog at people falling over themselves to justify and minimise an assault, defend the perpetrator and mock the victim.

I wonder what this board's reaction would have been if the allegation was that H hit W.

Agog that you'd believe someone who has repeatedly lied and exaggerated to line his own pocket.

MissMarpleRocks · 05/01/2023 07:08

DewinDwl · 05/01/2023 07:03

Agog at people falling over themselves to justify and minimise an assault, defend the perpetrator and mock the victim.

I wonder what this board's reaction would have been if the allegation was that H hit W.

The word ‘victim’ Harry always the victim. Everyone else the problem? Generally when it’s everyone else who is the problem the issue is you.

Also there are 3 sides to a story. A’s truth. B’s truth & the actual truth. That’s why witnesses in a court can often give conflicting testimony.

Merrymouse · 05/01/2023 07:09

None of this is as shocking as Tampongate, but it does remind me that Harry and William would have been about 9 and 11 when that happened and away at boarding school.

So much about the family is completely batshit crazy, but they are also expected to be role models. It’s all ridiculous, but I’m obviously posting on this thread so as happy to be distracted by it all as anyone else.

Zuve · 05/01/2023 07:09

What I like is all the leaking going on. It's worse than my roof.

HotChoxs · 05/01/2023 07:09

DewinDwl · 05/01/2023 07:03

Agog at people falling over themselves to justify and minimise an assault, defend the perpetrator and mock the victim.

I wonder what this board's reaction would have been if the allegation was that H hit W.

Oh please, go and watch a boxing match and see what it actually takes to fell a man that size. Flipping dog bowl would be the last thing he was worrying about.

MarshaMelrose · 05/01/2023 07:12

Merrymouse · 05/01/2023 07:09

None of this is as shocking as Tampongate, but it does remind me that Harry and William would have been about 9 and 11 when that happened and away at boarding school.

So much about the family is completely batshit crazy, but they are also expected to be role models. It’s all ridiculous, but I’m obviously posting on this thread so as happy to be distracted by it all as anyone else.

That was a private conversation between twp adults. It wasn't for public consumption. Have and your partner never said things in the privacy of your bedroom that you'd be embarrassed to be broadcast?

fajitaaaa · 05/01/2023 07:12

Cariadz · 05/01/2023 06:55

I can’t get over him referring to his necklace. 🙈

As shallow as I am.

then you need to take a look at yourself.* *

Petronus · 05/01/2023 07:12

DewinDwl · 05/01/2023 07:03

Agog at people falling over themselves to justify and minimise an assault, defend the perpetrator and mock the victim.

I wonder what this board's reaction would have been if the allegation was that H hit W.

Me too! There’s loads of really sneery horrible comments on this thread. The whole things really sad, and not at all funny.

GrinAndVomit · 05/01/2023 07:13

So what we’re being expected to believe is:

William was “piping hot” after reading newspaper stories. He had no evidence. He had not spoken to any of the staff concerned. He had not witnessed this behaviour first hand. He just read “media lies” and became enraged.

He and Harry then had a shouting match, in which insults were traded, yet Harry remained completely calm and passive. Even though the argument was about the behaviour of Harry’s beloved wife, and William was “piping hot” he was able to remain emotionless while having this shouting match.

Harry helpfully got William a glass of water. William, while still in the middle of red-mist-rage, calmly waited for this glass to be poured, took it from him and gently placed it on the counter.

William then grabbed Harry and shook him like a wet rag before throwing him into a bowl of dog food and breaking Harry’s necklace.

I don’t buy it.

More likely would be:

Staff went to William with concerns and evidence of bullying.

William went to Harry to confront him about Meghan’s treatment of staff.

Harry became defensive and an argument ensued.

Harry became equally as angry as William and squared up to him. William grabbed his collar and pushed him away.

WinnieTheW0rm · 05/01/2023 07:13

DewinDwl · 05/01/2023 07:03

Agog at people falling over themselves to justify and minimise an assault, defend the perpetrator and mock the victim.

I wonder what this board's reaction would have been if the allegation was that H hit W.

It would be different.

William doesn't have a reputation for telling "his" truth, which barely has a passing resemblance to actual events.

And I'm unsympathetic to this one because I don't think that the description of injuries matches the description of events, so I suspect embriodery somewhere.

Though of course even the boy who cried 'wolf' might still be right one day. But he's not going to be believed on the strength of his word alone

TheCockatoosCrest · 05/01/2023 07:14

I can imagine how infuriating Harry is. William goes to speak to him about the staff complaints of bullying - pissed off as you would be. This woman waltzes in and causes chaos with their (at that time) joint staff.

Harry, as he apparently himself claims - accuses William of believing the press narrative about his wife. It shows his complete and utter paranoid delusion. It is like, open your eyes Harry FFS.

MarshaMelrose · 05/01/2023 07:17

GrinAndVomit · 05/01/2023 07:13

So what we’re being expected to believe is:

William was “piping hot” after reading newspaper stories. He had no evidence. He had not spoken to any of the staff concerned. He had not witnessed this behaviour first hand. He just read “media lies” and became enraged.

He and Harry then had a shouting match, in which insults were traded, yet Harry remained completely calm and passive. Even though the argument was about the behaviour of Harry’s beloved wife, and William was “piping hot” he was able to remain emotionless while having this shouting match.

Harry helpfully got William a glass of water. William, while still in the middle of red-mist-rage, calmly waited for this glass to be poured, took it from him and gently placed it on the counter.

William then grabbed Harry and shook him like a wet rag before throwing him into a bowl of dog food and breaking Harry’s necklace.

I don’t buy it.

More likely would be:

Staff went to William with concerns and evidence of bullying.

William went to Harry to confront him about Meghan’s treatment of staff.

Harry became defensive and an argument ensued.

Harry became equally as angry as William and squared up to him. William grabbed his collar and pushed him away.

That does sounds more believable.

I love the fact that when it was all over, he rang his therapist. 🙄 As you do.

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