Harry alleges/describes William physically attacking him in 2019

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www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Not really sure what to make of this tbh…

I wondered that too

Harry knows all this, and is well aware that he basically has carte blanche to make up any old shit he likes because his brother isn't in a position to do much about it.

But the RF won't stop - the press still want to sell and the RF still want to protect certain people. / stories or control other stories that don't involve M&H which means their relationship with the press will be at stake and they won't have that.

As I noted in an earlier post, today yahoo news reported:

“ I’ve watched the first two episodes of this ‘Live to Lead,’" Ndileka told Fox News Digital. "I honestly don’t find anything wrong with them using that opening thing inspirational with a quote of granddad.”

it’s very confusing and I was wondering which report is correct. The Australian, or Yahoo news?

Also from the same article, Ndileka Mandela said:

“I just think that people are making a … mountain out of a mole hill, and they’re wanting to persecute Meghan and Harry for no reason, honestly," she added. "I mean, Meghan has always been an activist, and this is in her activism work which my grandfather was, he was, a social justice activist through and through."

Ndileka emphasized that Nelson Mandela launched his political career through "social activism" and compared the journey to Prince Harry and Markle's.

"And his enter point into politics was through social activism, which is exactly what Meghan and Harry are doing. Like I said early on, a lot of people use granddad’s quotes, and nobody has been made such a big rah-rah as they are making out of Harry and Meghan using this quotation."

The whole lot of them are insufferable but there is a kind of terrible poetry to Harry bringing down the RF amongst echoes of what happened with Diana.

What a messed up institution it is, surely it is kinder not to put a new generation through it all.

I'm also confused. Somebody claimed she'd criticised them on a thread a few weeks ago and I couldn't find any evidence of it anywhere and assumed it had been made up. Then it seemed like some sort of a prophecy when it did appear in the papers. And now this Fox news article which makes it sound like they've spoken to her properly. And yet multiple better quality sources are saying it happened (The Independent and The Times for example are saying the same as the DM article someone originally posted on nere). I can't work out what's been said or not said and why the discrepancy in reports when it's a simple issue of quoting someone well known.

What a messed up institution it is, surely it is kinder not to put a new generation through it all.

But who would we talk about then, we don't have the Kardashians you know 😂

What do we think their ultimate goal is?

Take down the RF to get revenge? Because so far their accusations are personal and not related to the role of the institution.

Use the RF to settle a score with the British media?

Sell their story to make millions and give themselves a platform for whatever comes next?

This isn’t activism in my book at all. If it were they would be openly calling the RF racist which actually they have not done. They’ve just drip fed enough inference for everyone else to do it.

Doesn't this make a mockery of his mea culpa in the Netflix documentary what was the point in meeting with a Rabbi, holocaust survivor etc if you're still claiming that the costume was ridiculous and that was the point of the party?

Harry's either genuinely sorry or not but trying to apportion blame to others and excuse what he did doesn't reek of sincerity.

I think maybe too much is made of the costume at times, he did wrong he apologised and it was bad taste and ignorance rather than malice but trying to blame others for what he voluntarily wore when he knows how nazism sticks to someones reputation is just heartless.

Harry was the age that George is now when his parents did their interviews. I wonder if he considered how this is affecting him and Charlotte.

I don't buy it. So his brother physically assaults him but yet he's bleating on about how he wants his family back. Show me proof of it and I'll believe.

I think their goal is simply to hurt Harry's family members. I think Meghan is a narcissist and enjoys hurting people anyway and Harry is troubled and has had his resentments stoked. Many of the resentments are probably justified. If this did happen it's awful (it sounds unprovoked). But then again Harry doesn't have the best record on honesty and has been going out of his way to hurt and provoke without letting accuracy get in the way so it's all getting far too murky to tell what happened.

The only person Harry wants to hurt is his brother. William is the only one he keeps throwing under the bus.

why were him and meghan more than happy to put up with the racism, the tabloids, being a spare etc when they wanted their half in half out model? Only when they were declined this then all of the above became an issue and he is taking out his resentment on his brother, probably the ONLY person who will understand him the most in that world.

Harry's thrown shots at the lot of them. But is more careful with whoever's holding the purse strings.

The previous leaks said that Harry goes after William in this book. No grown men should be laying their hands on each other. They also said he takes swipes at Catherine. I wonder if she's wopped him one, too?

I feel sorry for Harry. He's just going though life not harming anyone, trying to keep the peace, avoiding trouble and just loving the world, man. Peace. ✌ And yet all these dreadful things keep happening to him when he has done nothing but behave perfectly so no need for him to acknowledge any responsibility. He must be bemused that so many bad things can happen to him and his beloved. Two innocents abroad....

@Morestrangethings
Thanks for that I had not seen this on the other threads.
If she did say anything at all - It makes more sense than the other quote as I was a urprised at Mandela's daughter taking sides so publicly and repeating the same mantra as the tabloids , someone who has seen and experienced so much injustice - it seemed more like something Piers would say before he became obsessed and on a good day. The foundation would be aware of M&H and other charity work so to put such negative statement out there seemed odd. They were aware of this when M&H became involved - I'm not sure how JA only got to find out the same time as it was announced in the tabloids and a few days before the programme is aired.

I struggle to understand what he’s doing here. Careful not to upset the current monarch… Does he not get that some time in the not so distant future, his brother will be the monarch?

Good point about George’s age @miri1985 and knowing what is going on in the press.

That does sadly sound quite plausible, he is doing it to hurt William and if it hurts the rest of the family so be it… he feels like they never had his back anyway. Always the victim.

i think their next step will be to try to politicise the collateral which could be incredibly damaging for international relations over issues which quite frankly are entirely personal. I don’t like where this is heading at all.

The only person Harry wants to hurt is his brother. William is the only one he keeps throwing under the bus.

He's jealous because he's not the heir. That's all it is.

Maybe. But if he was physically attacked that's pretty astonishing. I don't know if it's true though. Interested to see what the palace says, directly or indirectly. All so very sad it has come to this.

He doesn’t want his brother to be king because he can’t be. Someone drew a parallel above to the RF of the past and tbh I can see the similarities. They have immeasurable power which in turn breeds jealousy and entitlement, which goes to their heads.

He doesn’t want his brother to be king because he can’t be. Someone drew a parallel above to the RF of the past and tbh I can see the similarities. They have immeasurable power which in turn breeds jealousy and entitlement, which goes to their heads.

The thing is all Harry is showing is why it's a good thing he was never first in line. He could never be a king.

Or did Harry say something about Kate? Or did Harry push William first? Or did William try & get away from Harry & pushed past him inadvertently pushing him over? An argument is not usually so one sided. A former soldier that is scared because his brother apparently pushed him over? As if.

Thats if any of it happened in the first place. Harry is economical with the truth at the best of times.

It's odd that people are talking about violence when Harry was a trained soldier and went to Afghanistan and is fit and healthy enough to stand up to anyone. Why didn't he shove him back ? Most people would have done.

Maybe because he didn't want to get into a physical fight with PW? I wouldn't have wanted that. It doesn't seem unreasonably if the allegation is true.

Because he knew he had the upper hand, he’d provoked exactly the response he needed for the book.

Well exactly. I mean I find it amazing he called his therapist but yet apparently didn't know how to for Meghan.