It's shocking how much harder the older Royals are working

[tatalan]

The Princess of Wales barely outworked Queen Elizabeth who died in early September after cancelling a series of engagements.

Charles and Anne look to be carrying the monarchy at present. The Earl and Countess of Wessex are grafting hard as well.

What do William and Kate spend their days doing? Surely as young energetic members of the RF, they should be pulling their weight.

I think the problem is the projects W&K choose/do don't get much traction, are people interested in kate's EYs thing? has it changed anything? same for Ws Earthshot thing. Considering the platform they have it seems wasted.

Umm... they helicopter around everywhere, they use helicopters like anyone would use a taxi. Even the Queen criticised them for this. It shows the helicopter use of the RF in the Royal Report. It's not good.

So you're saying they are always out the house and travelling? I think not.

Surely you didn't miss William's superbowl moment in America? it was widely covered.

I know Kate conducted a five question survey for early years but that's about it tbh.

@Roussette I did not say Kate picked up toys, but that her kids would be told to tidy up, much as ours are told.

They should have been forced to keep their proper armed forces/air ambulance jobs. Why did William need to give up work to be a full time prince

Kate could have continued going to day time parties and shaking hands at nurseries, William could have joined her at the theatre and weekend drinks receptions and still done a 9-5.

'Royal engagements' are not work and definitely not a full time job.

We should be taxing these people probably and expecting at least one of them to have an actual job.

Nanny would tidy up before putting them to bed and going back to her cottage on the estate, and if they made a mess before she was back for breakfast I'm sure the housekeeper would have it all sorted in the morning.

didn't Kate just do some carol concert?
when they go to tennis or football does that count as work?

Just because they aren't out cutting ribbons, opening little curtains, visting charities and having lunches doesn't mean they aren't working behind the scenes.

Tennis and Football does count as work because they are respective patrons. I wonder how much background work that requires 😂

Exactly.

I wish my boss would pay me to sit in plum seats at marquee sporting events.

And film premieres, theatre trips, drinks receptions, garden parties, state dinners... Hard work.

@Roussette i haven't said that I think they're always busy, nor do I think they do their own ironing or food shop. My argument is that I don't blame them for limiting their engagements and being there in person for their children as much as possible. I would not wish for their life and certainly wouldn't want it for my children. It's a gilded cage.

People trying to make what the royals do sound more like work by comparing it to teachers preparing for a lesson I hope the sole of that boot tastes like bubblegum!

My thoughts exactly. Work 🤣

I think a big part of that is they don't show real passion and energy for it.

Remember when Jill Biden met Kate to talk about early years stuff? She was surprised at how fluffy and brief it was and made a comment that it was just a photo op. She expected more. In fairness to Kate I think she's very shy in situations like that but when you know your subject that can carry you through a nerve-wracking situation and that in turn brings others with you. Diana was shy too but she put herself out there, raised money etc. And the trouble is I don't think Kate is developing those skills so it will obviously continue to be very daunting. And especially now at 10 years in, the expectations are that much higher.

But really it's William who should be doing more, and also supporting her more. I don't think much of it is Kate's fault.

You can tell Jill Biden thought it was an actual work session not a photo-op. The more Kate puts herself in situations like that, the more she improves. I do think there are slight improvements to where she was when she first started.

Are you a teacher? I think the analogy is a good one

@derxa I presume you also think Rishi and Keir do their own work to prepare for PMQs every Wednesday?

Nothing like it.
When you're a teacher you don't have a PA to read your emails, send correspondence and manage your diary.
No one writes you briefing notes so you don't have to do any research yourself.
No one writes your lessons for you so you can just stand up and read your speech.

Teachers have to do all their own planning and preparation for teaching, all their own marking, go to meetings themselves and read and send all their own emails. Totally different set up.

must be nice to be them in many ways, they are often lauded as such marvelous parents and even on here people are quick to point out the 3 young children as reasons for effectively part time work, BUT they literally have a full stable of staff to undertake all the menial boring life admin/work that most parents would use their non working time for.
I do not believe for one minute that they get those children up and dressed and fed and bags packed and off to school and then return to walk dog, clear up kitchen, bung dinner in slow cooker, stick a wash on before going out to do their part time job...like most working parents.
Kate wont be calling the GP or dentist or school to make that appointment for little Charlotte while on a lunch break from her job, she wont be dashing through traffic to desperately try to get to nursery before closing .
And even if we accept part time working as they have children - do they both need to be part time ??? I mean how many families really have 2 parents both part time ???
A normal family will have one parent part time if they can afford it , so children get one parent 'present' but most have second parent working full time...Kate and William both appear to do less than half time compared to older royals...

Are you a teacher?

Like what though? This is the trouble, we don't know what 'working behind the scenes' actually is. Bear in mind they have hundreds of staff, William on his own has 149 apparently (disclaimer, I have no idea how true that is) . So I doubt there's much working behind the scenes.

Yes, they are doing things differently to the Queen did as far as children and leaving them, but the hands on bit is what is fed to us as a convenient thing to believe.

The masks are slipping amongst a good number of the public about them these days. Rumours and gossip abound, frocks are watched and critiqued (but that's part of their raison d'etre though), their lives of luxuryare compared with most of us and people will question what they are all about and what the hell they are doing - or not!

My fervent hope is that all three kids tell them to F off and renounce titles or whatever. Then go off and enjoy their lives as they want to. I can't see a 14 year old George relishing the thoughts of being POW and King someday. Tik Tok will sort him out! The other two can do what they like I suppose.

There's no sorting rebellious teenagers, especially this lot since we are constantly told they are getting an "ordinary loving" upbringing, which brings its own issues such as SM and other influences from outside the palace walls.

What I would give to go to Wimbledon every day in the best seats in the house. I apply in the public ballot every year, sometimes I'm lucky, often not. That's not work.