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The royal family

It's shocking how much harder the older Royals are working

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tatalan · 31/12/2022 09:14

The Princess of Wales barely outworked Queen Elizabeth who died in early September after cancelling a series of engagements.

Charles and Anne look to be carrying the monarchy at present. The Earl and Countess of Wessex are grafting hard as well.

What do William and Kate spend their days doing? Surely as young energetic members of the RF, they should be pulling their weight.

It's shocking how much harder the older Royals are working
It's shocking how much harder the older Royals are working
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tatalan · 31/12/2022 11:08

Roussette · 31/12/2022 11:02

Lots of lack of understanding about how royal engagements work on this thread. For many engagements they don't just hop in the royal car, rock up, shake hands and leave. There are briefings beforehand, background documents to read, so they understand the context and can have useful and relevant conversations. For Kate especially there will be a lot of planning re wardrobe etc

Oh purleeeease! Yes on the wardrobe planning agree with that, but the rest, NO. They have private secretaries, aides, courtiers... everything will be prepared to the nth degree for them. They quite possibly just have a bullet point sheet to refer to and the rest is just schmoozing and nodding in the right place. If they don't ask much, it doesn't matter because they are royal ! If they smile and move on to the next person because they haven't a scooby what the person is talking about, it doesn't matter because they are royal and revered!

They are hardly up till midnight preparing documents for a presentation, waiting for others to provide the information they need to make a slideshow. Then getting up at 5am to catch a train to the venue and finding out there's been a problem with the line so frantically trying to work out how to get there to do this presentation. Then when it's over, rushing to get back to the childminders, it ran late and you are frantic. Then putting 3 children to bed and dropping in exhaustion and the kitchen is a mess.
Please don't tell me they work hard.

Their engagement record is appalling. Dukes of Gloucester and Kent who are 80s and one 87, did as much as them!

I don't mean to insult Brits but this sort of critical thinking seems few and far between. Then again, a diet of tabloids ensures they don't.

If I were Kate, i'd half my engagements next year 😂

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Aquasulis · 31/12/2022 11:09

Err they are all work shy….

Anne did 10 in one day this year and that was basically less than 9-5. A phone call, coffee, meet someone else, cut a ribbon - visit a school an hour and so on. Most are less than an hour. Try saying 300 hours a year - very nice job when you are taxi in and out as well.

Ariela · 31/12/2022 11:10

felulageller · 31/12/2022 10:53

George Charlotte and Louis will have a nanny each.

Kate won't have so much as touched laundry, a duster, a hoover or done the dishes for 12 years.

They do no life admin or tidying toys off the floor.

She spends her days in the gym by the looks of it.

I agree Kate won't pick up toys off the floor and tidy away.

However they now don't have any live in staff and just the one nanny, Maria Borrallo who is live out now they live in Windsor. as Adelaide House is only 4 bedroom, so no room for her. So when the nanny is not there I'm quite sure Kate will ask the kids to pick up and tidy away their toys, just as we do. And no doubt wash up when she's cooked, fling the hoover round and tidy up much the same as we do.

Aquasulis · 31/12/2022 11:11

They have aids that do it all and a quick briefing etc

people are so urgh sycophantic in their approach to the royals just to say hello or even see them -

derxa · 31/12/2022 11:16

I'm just glad they're there.

Roussette · 31/12/2022 11:18

Ariela · 31/12/2022 11:10

I agree Kate won't pick up toys off the floor and tidy away.

However they now don't have any live in staff and just the one nanny, Maria Borrallo who is live out now they live in Windsor. as Adelaide House is only 4 bedroom, so no room for her. So when the nanny is not there I'm quite sure Kate will ask the kids to pick up and tidy away their toys, just as we do. And no doubt wash up when she's cooked, fling the hoover round and tidy up much the same as we do.

Errrmmmm she is yards away in a cottage. I read somewhere that she basically does it all.., breakfast routine, charts for the kids where they have to be and when (W or K take them to school I believe), their clothes, the evening and bedtime routine, monitoring homework etc.

You are absolutely deluded if you think Kate picks up toys, tidies and runs the hoover around. Really, not.

The sttaff live in cottages on the Estate

glamourousindierockandroll · 31/12/2022 11:20

Just because Kate has access to childcare doesn't mean that she has to use it full time. These children are not normal children and will spend the rest of their lives in the public eye, probably surrounded by people who may not have their best interests at heart. I can see why she and William want to personally be around as much as they can, without relying on staff.

I also have young children and work full time, as does my husband but if money wasn't an issue I'd prefer to be part time.

There is also a lot of travel around the length and breadth of the country involved in these engagements, probably involving frequent late nights and overnight stays. It's not like they're going to a 9-5 a couple of miles away. We couldn't do a job like that and also be the main carers for our children.

Roussette · 31/12/2022 11:22

glamourousindierockandroll · 31/12/2022 11:20

Just because Kate has access to childcare doesn't mean that she has to use it full time. These children are not normal children and will spend the rest of their lives in the public eye, probably surrounded by people who may not have their best interests at heart. I can see why she and William want to personally be around as much as they can, without relying on staff.

I also have young children and work full time, as does my husband but if money wasn't an issue I'd prefer to be part time.

There is also a lot of travel around the length and breadth of the country involved in these engagements, probably involving frequent late nights and overnight stays. It's not like they're going to a 9-5 a couple of miles away. We couldn't do a job like that and also be the main carers for our children.

Poor Kate/William having to travel for work occasionally Hmm

AuntieMarys · 31/12/2022 11:23

"Work" 😁
Yeah, right

Aspiringmatriarch · 31/12/2022 11:23

You'll get posters saying they do other work behind the scenes and giving the children as an excuse, but it's plain as day they just do the bare minimum. It's a real shame as there's a lot of scope to do good things within their role and really be a credit to Britain, but there you go.🤷‍♀️

MintyFreshOne · 31/12/2022 11:25

much that what would ordinarily be referred to as leisure and social events are referred to as work

Yes, stuff that people do for fun is counted as work. They really shouldn’t call it work.

CheeseMuffin · 31/12/2022 11:26

derxa · 31/12/2022 11:16

I'm just glad they're there.

Why?

MintyFreshOne · 31/12/2022 11:27

pigalow27 · 31/12/2022 10:30

I think the focus on just actual engagements counting as work is slightly ingenuous. It's like someone in a forward facing job only saying that time with clients or the public is work. I'm sure we all have careers (GP, solicitor, teacher) where a lot of the work is done 'behind the scenes' and after hours. Similarly the Prince and Princess of Wales are 'working' when they are reading briefs about the charity or organisation they are visiting or when they are in their private offices meeting with their staff, planning their calendar and working on speeches they will give. These are still work activities. It's like the people who believe teachers only work when they are actually teaching in the classroom but give no thought to how and when those lessons were planned and resources created!

They have people who do all that behind-the-scenes stuff

Ivyonafence · 31/12/2022 11:28

I wonder if Kate and William's nanny, housekeeper and chef work more than 138 days a year.

Disgraceful and lazy.

Especially given an engagement can be a phone call.

terrywynne · 31/12/2022 11:29

Which is the member of the extended royal family who used to teach music in schools in some northern town (Hull maybe?). She sounded more in touch with normality than most of the family, though maybe the rest of her life was ridiculously out of touch.

ODFOx · 31/12/2022 11:30

I work full time but only about 30% of my time is meetings.

Number of engagements can't fully reflect what a person contributes if they are doing more than meetings. Some of the Royals will be all about meet and greets, whereas some will be more involved in other tasks I think.
The same complaints were levelled at Charles years ago.

Aspiringmatriarch · 31/12/2022 11:31

ShamedBySiri · 31/12/2022 10:37

Don't you think each engagement might involve a certain amount of time researching and getting up with the facts and names and so forth beforehand?

I imagine they spend a lot of time in this way.

LOL. No. Staff do that. I guess they probably read some crib notes prepared for them which is fair enough as the public facing stuff is what they're there for, but the low number of engagements is certainly not an indication of them beavering away behind the scenes. If it was that onerous, someone like Princess Anne would presumably be working round the clock.

tatalan · 31/12/2022 11:35

CheeseMuffin · 31/12/2022 11:26

Why?

I think I know why 😏

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Roussette · 31/12/2022 11:35

Personally, I think they should be working their arses off... for the privilege they have. What I really really don't understand is...

OK, they want to be there for their kids, I understand that. But it really doesn't need two parents there. Why isn't William working the equivalent of a full time job? Or half and half each? One parent is enough, and as long as they can connect on an evening all together a few times a week, why do they keep saying about being there for the children? Will this go on until Louis is 18?!

When my kids were little, they didn't see their Dad during the week, he was up and gone travelling the country and back home after they had gone to bed. Not ideal but work is work and we made up for it at weekends.

I cannot work out why they don't do more, I honestly can't. I think they are going to have to prove themselves or people will rapidly be going off them.

headstone · 31/12/2022 11:40

They are pretty lazy, I wouldn’t consider Meghan lazy despite all her other faults. However I have a low bar for the royals. As long as they aren’t embarrassing themselves, or committing crimes or going on about the environment I’m not too bothered how they spend their time.

Ivyonafence · 31/12/2022 11:44

They should be working to justify their existence.

The current generation seems to understand that.

When Charles and Anne are gone, I wonder if people will look at who is left and consider how ridiculous it is that they receive public money to live in a palace and occasionally shake hands and wave.

glamourousindierockandroll · 31/12/2022 11:48

@Roussette there are hundreds of engagements on there. I wouldn't consider that occasional travel if my employer expected that of me. Nor can they simply helicopter around to save time, and rightly so.

I work full time because I have to. I enjoy my work but I am TIRED and I miss out on a lot of stuff I'd like to be there with my children for. If I could work flexibly part time with no financial downsides, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

glamourousindierockandroll · 31/12/2022 11:55

@Roussette between them, they do just over 300 engagements a year. So more than the Wessexes but less than Anne and Charles.

Maybe they work it exactly as you say, so one of them is at home while the other is away.

Katapolts · 31/12/2022 11:55

Of course William and Kate aren't 'busy with their young children'!
What do you think that means?
They're all at school full time and have nannies. When they were babies they had 24/7 maternity nurses and night nannies?
Are they busy cooking for them? No, cook does that.
Busy cleaning up and washing and ironing? No, housekeeper does that.
Supervising homework? Oh wait, nanny and tutor manages that.

They probably play with the kids a bit every day, maybe they do some bedtime stories and parent's evenings, but if someone else is cooking, cleaning, doing the laundry, sorting uniforms, school runs, taking them to extracurriculars, tidying up after them, arranging playdates with other nannies - literally just 'being' a parent isn't a job.

Lost123454 · 31/12/2022 11:56

Cutting ribbons and shaking hands is grafting?

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