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Honour for Jason Knauf

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BethJ62 · 31/12/2022 01:04

Interesting that Jason Knauf has been honoured in the NY Honours List ( RVO).

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notanotheroneagain · 01/01/2023 14:22

There was no personal integrity at all.

He went and reopened a case with half the information so that it looks like MM is guilty of something that has nothing to do with the case. Also remember, HE was the one who spoke to Omid, not MM. With his information we would have believed that MM sat down with Omid, if MM did not produce the rest of the communication. MM was going through a miscarriage so it makes sense for her to just drop everything, apologise and get this over and done with.

Jason Knauf went and reopened a case unnecessarily to put undue stress on a pregnant woman who ended up losing the baby. Let that sink in.

milti · 01/01/2023 14:25

@kirinm a solicitor cannot mislead the Court by filing evidence they know to be false- know, not suspect. If they did that they would be breaching the code of conduct for solicitors. If a solicitor knows their client is lying to the court, they should withdraw from the case (or simply let the other side make their case and make no submissions in behalf of their own client)

bakalava · 01/01/2023 14:25

So Jason Knauf is responsible for the miscarriage of a 40 year old woman (common age group to frequently miscarry) because he participated in legal proceedings brought about by her in the first place?

kirinm · 01/01/2023 14:26

milti · 01/01/2023 14:25

@kirinm a solicitor cannot mislead the Court by filing evidence they know to be false- know, not suspect. If they did that they would be breaching the code of conduct for solicitors. If a solicitor knows their client is lying to the court, they should withdraw from the case (or simply let the other side make their case and make no submissions in behalf of their own client)

I'm a litigation solicitor.

kirinm · 01/01/2023 14:27

My point was that I can see no evidence that the court found the solicitor had deliberately misled the court - or even accidentally misled the court but that is an allegation being made on this thread.

notanotheroneagain · 01/01/2023 14:29

bakalava · 01/01/2023 14:25

So Jason Knauf is responsible for the miscarriage of a 40 year old woman (common age group to frequently miscarry) because he participated in legal proceedings brought about by her in the first place?

She did not bring them about. She had already won.

He brought them about, claiming he was a co-author.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 01/01/2023 14:30

Serenster · 01/01/2023 14:09

All the attempts by Meghan’s fans to smear the one person in this saga who has demonstrated real personal integrity - reporting his concerns that staff were being bullied, giving the court the information that was being concealed from it and that showed that other parties in the case were lying - says so much more about them than about Jason Knauf.

But Knauf's integrity came at a cost to Meghan, and not only is this clearly resented, but as we see repeatedly even truth is turned on its head in pursuit of the narrative that nothing can ever be her fault

As Ohnonevermind suggested it's really not diffixcult not to lie - most of us manage it all the time

milti · 01/01/2023 14:31

Ha ha sorry misunderstood- neither can I and the idea is rather preposterous- I’m sure the lawyers are not that invested

bakalava · 01/01/2023 14:33

notanotheroneagain · 01/01/2023 14:29

She did not bring them about. She had already won.

He brought them about, claiming he was a co-author.

Nothing would have gone to court if it were not for her. You cannot control what happens after you open that can of worms, as she did, Perhaps he felt that he was the coauthor and needed to bring this before the court after she had created the opportunity?

Hepwo · 01/01/2023 14:34

notanotheroneagain · 01/01/2023 14:22

There was no personal integrity at all.

He went and reopened a case with half the information so that it looks like MM is guilty of something that has nothing to do with the case. Also remember, HE was the one who spoke to Omid, not MM. With his information we would have believed that MM sat down with Omid, if MM did not produce the rest of the communication. MM was going through a miscarriage so it makes sense for her to just drop everything, apologise and get this over and done with.

Jason Knauf went and reopened a case unnecessarily to put undue stress on a pregnant woman who ended up losing the baby. Let that sink in.

That's not actually true though. The DM requested a statement from Knauf in July which he agreed to, a month after their daughter was born.

This was after all the lies about him and his staff in the Oprah show.

Capri3 · 01/01/2023 14:49

notanotheroneagain · 01/01/2023 14:22

There was no personal integrity at all.

He went and reopened a case with half the information so that it looks like MM is guilty of something that has nothing to do with the case. Also remember, HE was the one who spoke to Omid, not MM. With his information we would have believed that MM sat down with Omid, if MM did not produce the rest of the communication. MM was going through a miscarriage so it makes sense for her to just drop everything, apologise and get this over and done with.

Jason Knauf went and reopened a case unnecessarily to put undue stress on a pregnant woman who ended up losing the baby. Let that sink in.

IIRC MM didn’t publicly announce her second pregnancy, only that she had miscarried. Therefore your comment that Jason Knauf deliberately tried to put stress on a pregnant MM is untrue.

notanotheroneagain · 01/01/2023 15:18

IRC MM didn’t publicly announce her second pregnancy, only that she had miscarried. Therefore your comment that Jason Knauf deliberately tried to put stress on a pregnant MM is untrue.

As you say. publicly. That is us, does not mean the palace didn't know.

H&M thought they we're part of the palace until after the year gap. So it makes sense that they would inform the palace of a pending 8th in line or whatever.

bakalava · 01/01/2023 15:20

notanotheroneagain · 01/01/2023 15:18

IRC MM didn’t publicly announce her second pregnancy, only that she had miscarried. Therefore your comment that Jason Knauf deliberately tried to put stress on a pregnant MM is untrue.

As you say. publicly. That is us, does not mean the palace didn't know.

H&M thought they we're part of the palace until after the year gap. So it makes sense that they would inform the palace of a pending 8th in line or whatever.

They didn't even inform the palace that they were emigrating let alone something so personal. They were already at war with the palace by that stage. It is highly unlikely.

NimrodNimroy · 01/01/2023 15:22

notanotheroneagain · 01/01/2023 15:18

IRC MM didn’t publicly announce her second pregnancy, only that she had miscarried. Therefore your comment that Jason Knauf deliberately tried to put stress on a pregnant MM is untrue.

As you say. publicly. That is us, does not mean the palace didn't know.

H&M thought they we're part of the palace until after the year gap. So it makes sense that they would inform the palace of a pending 8th in line or whatever.

This is complete speculation on your part, also known as made up nonsense.

bakalava · 01/01/2023 15:25

It is really malicious to suggest that a potential grandfather or uncle would actively encourage a miscarriage because of a rift with their brother/son. That is what you are suggesting.

BethJ62 · 01/01/2023 15:28

notanotheroneagain · 01/01/2023 15:18

IRC MM didn’t publicly announce her second pregnancy, only that she had miscarried. Therefore your comment that Jason Knauf deliberately tried to put stress on a pregnant MM is untrue.

As you say. publicly. That is us, does not mean the palace didn't know.

H&M thought they we're part of the palace until after the year gap. So it makes sense that they would inform the palace of a pending 8th in line or whatever.

Have you any evidence of that ? Have H and M ever said that they told the Royal Family about their second pregnancy?

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meinteresamucho · 01/01/2023 15:30

What was in the other half of the emails that Meghan had, whoever mentioned JK's records only had half?

susan12345678 · 01/01/2023 15:32

As someone else observed, the fact that this has been announced after the conclusion of the investigation into the bullying allegations is extremely telling.

I think it's safe to conclude that Knauf's claims about Meghan's behaviour were probably validated by the independent investigation.

Serenster · 01/01/2023 15:48

kirinm · 01/01/2023 14:27

My point was that I can see no evidence that the court found the solicitor had deliberately misled the court - or even accidentally misled the court but that is an allegation being made on this thread.

(I no longer have the statements of case or evidence filed in the proceedings, so this is an overview, but it went like this…)

In summer 2020, after Finding Freedom was published, ANL added a new defence to its case - an allegation that the Duchess had given the authors a copy of her letter to her father so they could write about it, and an allegation that the level of personal details contained in the book showed that the Duchess must have collaborated with it. They claimed this impacted the reasonable expectations of privacy she would have.

Meghan’s statements of case (her Re-Amended Reply) were updated to assert that she had no involvement with the book, and that if any of her communications team had been in contact with the authors, she knew nothing about it. This pleading was supported by a statement of truth.

Omid Scobie filed a witness statement on 16 September 2020 in which he said that any suggestion that the Duke or Duchess had collaborated on Finding Freedom was false.

Jenny Afia, partner at Schillings and Meghan’s solicitor, then filed a witness statement on the same day in which she set out a long list of alleged “mistakes” in Finding Freedom which she concluded showed there was no collusion between the Duke or Duchess and the authors.

Schillings had also made a public statement about the allegations that Meghan had been involved in Finding Freedom in which Jenny Afia was quoted as saying that ANL’s allegations that Meghan had helped Scobie were false, fantastical, and a conspiracy theory.

Jason Knauf’s witness statement then showed clearly that Meghan and he had talked at length about the book, she and Harry had authorised him to speak to Omid Scobie, and she had drafted lengthy notes for him to hand over. It also showed she and Harry saw it as important that they be able to say that they had nothing to do with it. Omid certainly must have remembered this when he gave his witness statement, Meghan also must have remembered this when she signed her statement of truth and instructed her lawyer to file her witness statement, and issue the public statement on her behalf. I’m assuming Jenny Afia must have been told by Meghan that the statements in those documents were true? I’d hope so, in any event…

Warby J neatly sidestepped the whole issue and said nothing at all about the Finding Freedom evidence, as it was irrelevant to the basis on which he determined the Duchess was entitled to summary judgment. It was the Court of Appeal, when considering ANL’s application for permission to appeal who picked up on and commented on the fact that the Duchess had, at best, misled the court on this issue. By this stage the actions of her solicitor were old news.

notanotheroneagain · 01/01/2023 16:09

This is complete speculation on your part, also known as made up nonsense.

Complete speculation on your part that the palace was not told of an addition to the line , also known as made up nonsense.

notanotheroneagain · 01/01/2023 16:12

bakalava · 01/01/2023 15:25

It is really malicious to suggest that a potential grandfather or uncle would actively encourage a miscarriage because of a rift with their brother/son. That is what you are suggesting.

Wether they actively encouraged it or not. Those were, nevertheless, the consequences.

NimrodNimroy · 01/01/2023 16:23

notanotheroneagain · 01/01/2023 16:09

This is complete speculation on your part, also known as made up nonsense.

Complete speculation on your part that the palace was not told of an addition to the line , also known as made up nonsense.

Again you are incorrect. I haven't speculated on anything at all.

You consistently act as though your opinions are fact when they aren't.

bakalava · 01/01/2023 16:26

notanotheroneagain · 01/01/2023 16:12

Wether they actively encouraged it or not. Those were, nevertheless, the consequences.

These were the consequences of her embarking upon litigation and trying for a baby around the same time. She never thought it through well.

People miscarry for all sorts of reasons. Even happy, unstressed people miscarry especially older mothers like her.

smilesy · 01/01/2023 16:33

notanotheroneagain · 01/01/2023 16:12

Wether they actively encouraged it or not. Those were, nevertheless, the consequences.

Apart from being a horrendous accusation to level at anyone, there is no proven causal link between stress and miscarriage See here. If, and God forbid the intention was as you state, it would not be a very effective way of achieving the desired outcome. A bit like trying to murder someone by staging a car crash 🙄. As pp said, made up nonsense

bakalava · 01/01/2023 16:33

Californians like to portray themselves as laid back hippies but they can be extremely litigious. I personally know several who start proceedings against colleagues over facebook posts or comments their ex-best-friend made on their instagram posts. Some lose a lot of money but it does not deter them. She is a product of that culture.

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