The King rejects cut-price coronation in favour of ‘glorious’ pomp and pageantry

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Monarch wants to use ceremony to showcase ‘UK plc’ internationally, despite being deeply conscious of the cost of living crisis

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/12/21/king-rejects-cut-price-coronation-favour-glorious-pomp-pageantry/

How do you feel about this?

@Pemba

No I don't think so. Pps have said how other European monarchies don't have a coronation ceremony. I suppose they just make an announcement and then it carries on with the next heir. Much more sensible, and think of all the money saved.

I'm Dutch and lived in Amsterdam during the coronation. Believe me, we had a lot of pomp and celebration.

Exactly.
If there's a way to think that the British do everything the worst in the world, MNers will search it out!

He’s a grabby fu##er 😡Sandringham now charge for parking, making money out of the peasants 😡

It's totally out of order. People can't afford to feed their kids, the NHS is on its knees, and we're funding a spectacle for a load of parasites? Quite disgusting. There's something terribly wrong with this country.

I heard today that Charles is retaining the piper used by the late Queen, to pipe in front of his window to wake him up of a morning.

Er ... get an alarm clock, Charlie, or simply use one of the dozens of staff at your disposal to come into your room and tap you on the shoulder 🙄

Maybe the piper likes the role and status (and pay) and wants to keep it?

Charles got quite a lot of criticism for making some of the household staff redundant after the Queen’s death, now he’s getting criticised for keeping them on …

In that case he should be paying for it

Maybe it is the best way ...let him a complete spectacle of himself so that the whole world can see what a ridiculous anachronism the UK has become.
Maybe we have to completely embarrass ourselves before we can realise what we really need to do?

Monarchy is thousands of years old and not limited to the UK, so your point doesnt make any sense?

Perhaps you've never come across the word 'anachronism' before?

Maybe the piper does. If I could get a salary for wandering round under Charles's window for 20 mins or so each morning, I'd probably be happy too - but that doesn't mean it's right that he should be spunking money on such an utter frivolity that benefits no one except him and the piper.

Dont be so fucking rude. It makes no sense in that monarchy hasnt gone and then come back into something different, its been here and hasnt changed in all that time, the same with various countries across the world.

How do you know Charles doesn't pay him?

I'm watching for the possibility that someone will trip up the steps in the Grand Hall or wherever and the crown falls off.

'He who pays the Piper calls the tune'
Of course if king Charles pays personally for his Piper that's up to him.
(But does he?)

@MarshaMelrose i just lost my first answer to you. so, I’ll be quick. Yes it is about general respect.

Because so many people have proven themselves to be unworthy of the office, I no longer respect the office. I will respect the person who holds the office if they are worthy of it. They have to work for it now. I will be polite should I meet them, (unlikely) but it will just be the politeness I have for people generally. It was easier to respect the office when people were much more distant.

Our last PM in Australia proved himself not worthy of the office of Prime Minister. Respect for office and man were gone. Our new PM may prove himself worthy of respect, he’s done some good things so far, but not enough yet for me to say that I respect him.

i respected Queen Elizabeth, mostly, but no, I don't respect the office of the King, he’s got to earn my respect. I’ll be polite. If I should ever meet him :)

God, King and Country. I know there was no ‘then’ there. But it was my way of pointing out that I think there is meant to be hierarchy there, it’s not meant to be horizontal, we are meant to see it as a hierarchy.

The king ascends the throne. It’s a deliberate imagery that is created. Words are chosen for a reason.

The frisson you talk about. For me, it’s not respect, it’s excitement. Seeing someone I usually only see on a screen, there is excitement there. I’ve met a few famous people (famous in Australia), and felt that frisson, but in one case any excitement was quickly lost when the person turned out to be a rude, pretentious arsehole. When in London in the 90s, I had a second of it when I thought I saw Princess Diana in a car, but realised quickly it was Princess Michael of Kent. A frisson of excitement followed by a moment of disappointment and then her driver drove off.

Hmm, where does his 'personal' money come from? Not his Saturday job in B&Q, that's for sure.

I always took slimming down of the Monarchy to mean only the direct desendents of the person in line to the thrown on the balcony and doing royal duties.

So Charles, his siblings, his children and Williams Children. Therefore cutting out his cousins, Williams cousins and George's cousins.

Really who knows what minor Royals like Princess Alice look like?

Charles personal money, he did work for a bit, and he'll have inherited money from his Grandmother. That inheritance will be invested in who knows what inturn making him more money

i’m so pleased they’re going to do it properly - I found the funeral amazing to watch - the Household Division are so precise and incredible at ceremonial stuff and so were all the rest of the forces involved. We do all that pomp and ceremony beautifully and I LOVE A GOLDEN COACH!

We’ve got the troops, we’ve got the jewels, we’ve got the coaches -let’s use them. It’s history - if someone doesn’t want to watch, they can have a bank holiday and go and do something fun. I do NOT want a cut price job for my £1 or whatever the royals cost me a year. I want the Big Guns!

This is a man who has a flunky put toothpaste on his toothbrush. He's waited all his life for this.

I really can't see him having something low key.

I obviously don't know the man but he comes across as a horrible spoilt brat. And as for his second wife, can't stand her either.

I think him and his youngest son will bring the monarchy down, within the next 20 years.

I used to be a bit laissez-faire about the monarchy but now I just went them to all fuck off!

Yes me too. Im not a royalist, it doesnt make a huge odds to my life if there is or isnt one, but for my pennies I want a nice big show. I will be watching on the telly with a drink and some crisps and I want some good entertainment!!!

Me too! If this bigger coronation is true then I am delighted, the bigger the better, bring it on!

God you talk a load of nonsense.

This is a man who has a flunky put toothpaste on his toothbrush.

Because he broke his arm and it was in a sling. Seriously, get yourself some new lines.