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To think the palace should issue a statement condemning Clarkson's comments?

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Reindeersnooker · 20/12/2022 16:01

I'm all for their dignified silence on everything else. I don't trust Harry or Megan. But Jeremy Clarkson's comments are horrific and were made in Britain against a woman who has become a member of their family.

NOT issuing a statement sends out such a hurtful message and indicates that anything can be said about her, for all they care. Even the MPs have managed to put something on paper.

It's clear that Harry will be beyond hurt if they do nothing and this time he'd have a point, IMO. Each comment like this published in the press erodes the boundaries for online trolls. If I was Meghan, I wouldn't feel I could return to the UK as it's clear the normal rules don't apply to her. What will her children think of Britain when they grow up and become aware of these articles? Won't they be likely to wonder how the palace responded? While it makes no sense to try and placate Harry generally, letting this play out without one word of censure to the press seems needlessly provocative.

It wouldn't be difficult to issue a statement saying something to the effect of "We stand against bullying and hate speech..." Two lines to indicate they see it and it's not ok.

Or not?

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PicturesOfDogs · 20/12/2022 19:07

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 19:04

That’s not stopping press though that’s throwing someone else under the bus.

You think that they could have stopped the Clarkson piece?

I don’t believe for a second that the RF control the media.
If they do they’re not getting their moneys worth.

I think they try and get good PR, like anyone else (including M&H), but the press would go after them like anyone else if the story was there. They’re just interested in money and clicks ultimately.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 19:07

PicturesOfDogs · 20/12/2022 19:00

I can see both points of view tbh.

I can see exactly why Harry thinks, just because everyone (wives) has been treated this way, doesn’t make it okay, and that they should speak out.

But I also can see why they don’t.

I imagine their advice to H&M was to ride it out, because when you engage with statements to the media, you’re feeding it. That’s what you’re doing, you’re encouraging the media to comment even further.

Ultimately, this is very interesting to me, because we’ll have to wait and see which approach comes out on top, and whose happiest at the end of it all

Harry’s statement of ‘why should Meghan put up with it just because Catherine and Camilla did’ is interesting. Did he even give a shit before meeting Meghan? Or is he like one of those male feminists who announced they’ve become a feminist since having daughters? In other words - he only appears to care about women when it affects him directly.

antelopevalley · 20/12/2022 19:11

He is right though.
It is the equivalent of those who say they were bullied at school, were cold as a child etc, so why shouldn't others go through it.

MyRiverThee · 20/12/2022 19:12

PicturesOfDogs · 20/12/2022 19:04

Do the people criticising Kate for attending the vigil also criticise Meghan for the same at Uvalde?

I think that’s far more comparable than this JC situation.

(I don’t criticise either for going to either btw).

I do. I think it puts the attention on the wrong thing. As sad as Kate and Meghan may have felt about those tragedies, (and I’m sure they genuinely did, like all of us), I think they need to find a way to pay respects in another way if they feel they should.

I have a famous friend and he realises this. But then he’s not willing to use situations for his own personal gain and has no desire to willingly or unwillingly put the spotlight on himself when such awful things happen.

antelopevalley · 20/12/2022 19:12

And Camilla not inviting him to a lunch she hosted would at least have been a start. Or a promise to never invite him again.

bellocchild · 20/12/2022 19:13

There was a post on Quora suggesting that the RF are taking psychologists' advice and simply ignoring all the Sussexes' very public attempts at forcing an issue - denying them the oxygen of publicity and response. It's pretty much what they've always done anyway.

antelopevalley · 20/12/2022 19:15

@bellocchild But the Royals don't. They leak all the time and do petty things like wearing burgundy.

MyRiverThee · 20/12/2022 19:17

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 19:05

you can think Kate was wonderful and also recognise it was about Sarah Everard.

I loathe it when these thing happen and people go ‘but the public will THINK like this’ and present a ridiculous viewpoint that nobody at all thinks.

But people do think like that. People were talking about Kate attending, even commenting that she was ‘dressed down’. I read that comment on mumsnet and thought 🙄 and then a relative of mine said it too. There was discussion about Kate attending, did she have security, no mask, comments about her coat. This is the reality, many people are like this unfortunately.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 19:19

I have a famous friend and he realises this. But then he’s not willing to use situations for his own personal gain and has no desire to willingly or unwillingly put the spotlight on himself when such awful things happen.

Sounds like code for ‘nobody would know who I was anyway’

I actually think representation at these things is extremely important. If someone thinks that means Grenfell is all about Meghan that says more about them than her

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 19:20

antelopevalley · 20/12/2022 19:12

And Camilla not inviting him to a lunch she hosted would at least have been a start. Or a promise to never invite him again.

Which lunch is this?

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 19:21

bellocchild · 20/12/2022 19:13

There was a post on Quora suggesting that the RF are taking psychologists' advice and simply ignoring all the Sussexes' very public attempts at forcing an issue - denying them the oxygen of publicity and response. It's pretty much what they've always done anyway.

Well if it was on Quora it must be true.

Let’s not forget they haven’t even called for the RF to weigh in. They might not even care!! Random MNers don’t speak for H&M

antelopevalley · 20/12/2022 19:22

Lunch earlier this week was hosted by Camilla whose guests included Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan. It has had a lot of news coverage.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 19:22

antelopevalley · 20/12/2022 19:15

@bellocchild But the Royals don't. They leak all the time and do petty things like wearing burgundy.

What’s the burgundy thing?? I’ve read it a few times on here with no context

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 19:23

MyRiverThee · 20/12/2022 19:17

But people do think like that. People were talking about Kate attending, even commenting that she was ‘dressed down’. I read that comment on mumsnet and thought 🙄 and then a relative of mine said it too. There was discussion about Kate attending, did she have security, no mask, comments about her coat. This is the reality, many people are like this unfortunately.

So what??

The next day everyone was talking about the red head who was arrested and was the subject of the incredible picture.

Doesnt mean everyone doesn’t know who the vigil was about

antelopevalley · 20/12/2022 19:24

Lots of the Royal women all wearing burgundy to an event. Afyer Meghan had said she was not allowed to wear a colour that was the same as Senior Royal Family members.
The Royal Family response just looked as petty as hell.

antelopevalley · 20/12/2022 19:24

It looked like the kind of thing a bunch of schoolkids would do.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 19:24

antelopevalley · 20/12/2022 19:22

Lunch earlier this week was hosted by Camilla whose guests included Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan. It has had a lot of news coverage.

Oh you mean the lunch that was NOT hosted by Camilla, where she was just a guest like Clarkson, one of 200 guests.

That one?

Should Camilla purchase a crystal ball? Turn back time? I fail to see how she’s at fault here.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 19:25

antelopevalley · 20/12/2022 19:24

Lots of the Royal women all wearing burgundy to an event. Afyer Meghan had said she was not allowed to wear a colour that was the same as Senior Royal Family members.
The Royal Family response just looked as petty as hell.

Or maybe it’s their quiet way of saying Meghan was full of shit?

antelopevalley · 20/12/2022 19:25

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet I think it did take away from any conversation about violence against women.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 19:25

antelopevalley · 20/12/2022 19:25

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet I think it did take away from any conversation about violence against women.

Well that’s your problem - not many other people did.

MyRiverThee · 20/12/2022 19:26

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 19:19

I have a famous friend and he realises this. But then he’s not willing to use situations for his own personal gain and has no desire to willingly or unwillingly put the spotlight on himself when such awful things happen.

Sounds like code for ‘nobody would know who I was anyway’

I actually think representation at these things is extremely important. If someone thinks that means Grenfell is all about Meghan that says more about them than her

Not at all. You would know who he is. But think whatever you like, I don’t really care. When things have happened, it’s possible to reach out privately, that’s actually privately, to offer respect and support and no one ever finds out. Lots of people in the public eye so that. If you’re doing things privately that are actually public or privately that just happen to get found out, then it’s either deliberately leaked or your inner circle isn’t tight enough,

antelopevalley · 20/12/2022 19:26

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 19:25

Or maybe it’s their quiet way of saying Meghan was full of shit?

That was obviously the aim. I am saying it looked petty as hell. Like the kind of thing a bunch of giggling schoolkids would dream up. If that had been suggested to me as a response I would have said no way - I am not 12 years old.

onlylarkin · 20/12/2022 19:27

It doesn't matter how it has always been done. There is a very bright light being shined on the practice currently and Charles and William have a unique opportunity to start the change that needs to happen.They continue to chose not to.

The lack of response is bad PR for the royal family.

"If you always do what youve always done, you always get what what you've always got. "

What they have always gotten is 40+ years of the tabloids abusing women who marry into the royal family.

antelopevalley · 20/12/2022 19:28

@my Kate being at the vigil and the filming was obviously leaked by the palace. It was a planned engagement. And anyone expecting us to think it was accidentally publicised obviously thinks the public is thick as shit.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/12/2022 19:28

antelopevalley · 20/12/2022 19:26

That was obviously the aim. I am saying it looked petty as hell. Like the kind of thing a bunch of giggling schoolkids would dream up. If that had been suggested to me as a response I would have said no way - I am not 12 years old.

TBH if someone told a very public porkie about me (I have no idea of it was a porkie BTW nor do I especially care) that’s exactly what I’d do to dispel it. I think anyone would. If Meghan is incorrect about the colour thing (I’m pretty sure she is) or if she misunderstood it then the only petty one is her