Are William and Kate modernisers?

[antelopevalley]

I have seen this viewpoint on a number of occasions that William and Kate are modernisers and will modernise the Royal Family. What do you think?

Personally I think Charles is a moderniser, and William and Kate are traditionalists and will change nothing of any importance unless they have to. And example of Charles push to modernise is that he wants to be defender of all faiths. Whatever you think about it, this is a major constitutional change. It decouples the Royal Family from the Church of England and couples them instead to a belief in God however it is expressed. I could not imagine William and Kate doing this.

p.s. Charles has been talking about many changes including to defender of the faith long before Camilla was officially on the scene, which is why I have not mentioned her.

I don’t think there’s anything modern about W&C really is there? They both turn up to the right things, say the right things, smile at the right times, give a nice wave. Kate shows no particular personality but looks lovely in her outfits and has produced the requisite number of children. Wills does all the stuff his predecessors have done.

Id say that’s been the job for some time and they’re both pretty traditional.

I too think they are both pretty traditional.

Charles is definitely more of the moderniser. He was part of the original wave of growing and eating organic foods, and advocating sustainable farming.

we won't know for some time - Charles and the rest of the RF are a team and the comms teams together will craft out the approach that is going to be taken. I doubt William will seek to undermine his father - he has seen first hand examples of that already.
Charles is King and his approach will prevail as its a hierarchical monarchy
When William is King, his approach will become apparent.

No definitely not modernisers. William and Kate just want an easy life and that's exactly what they have.

This. I don’t think effort to change will be one of their qualities in the future. Neither seem to have much personality, either. I find it bizarre (being generous) in this day and age that neither the current consort nor the future one have held down real jobs as adults. Nothing modern there.

I doubt it. William - maybe, but Kate doesn't seem as though she'd want anything to change because that would mean she too will have to change and she seems pretty comfortable with her role the way it is.

Traditionalists I'd say. Also they don't seem to have much real conviction about things which Charles always has. Shame really, but I guess they won't make waves, which has its plus points.

I also don't see them as pro-active enough to be modernisers. Some people prefer to follow rules or already established tradition. Nothing wrong with that too.

Conformists I would say.

I don’t think anyone in the royal family can truly modernise it, because it’s an archaic institution. I suspect when people talk about W&K being modern, they mean young – the Queen hung on for so long that Charles aged out of ever being a young king. So for the past 30 years we’ve had a monarch of pensionable age, and now another one. By comparison, W&K seem pretty zesty – even though he’s a bit of a stuffed shirt and she’s deliberately bland.

They also both know that if the monarchy falls, the gravy train stops – obviously there’s plenty of private Windsor cash, no one’s worrying about energy bills there, but no more taxpayer-funded security, for instance: they’d be in the same position as M&H. All the fame, few of the perks. Tradition is their safety net.

Who knows, I don’t really know what they think about anything.

I do feel like W and KC seem to be on the same page atm, or at least presenting a very united front, which didn’t always seem to be the case.
Maybe they’re in sync about the modernisation aspects.

I think they might be. The rule of male primogeniture was scrapped shortly after they got married.

Another thread? Prolific poster!

If a moderniser emerges, it will be from within the institution. People who have served it for a long time, observed, reflected and waited for the right moment. Madcap bun throwing from across the ocean is not modern or conformist, it's just all sorts of wrong.

Doesn't like the RF!

She has all the genuine enthusiasm of an unpaid intern on TakeABreak or LooseWomen

😂😂😂😂

Am I warm @antelopevalley ? I expect you are too occupied with juggling the hundred other threads which you started this week.

how many threads today?

Obsessed.

Sussexes invited to Coronation and to keep titles
By antelopevalley

Created 19 Dec 2022 | Last updated 19 Dec 2022

I think this was the right call. Not to invite them to the Coronation just look petty. And he can't remove the Sussexes titles without removing Andrew's.
Kate more beautiful than bride!!

By antelopevalley

Created 19 Dec 2022 | Last updated 19 Dec 2022

Just read about a wedding William attended. In the comments underneath are people praising William and saying Kate is more beautiful than the bride. Why do people do this? Why can they only say they rate William by putting another woman down? And I thought the right thing about a wedding was to say the bride was the most beautiful there - whether true or not. Anything else is just rude.

Are William and Kate modernisers?

By antelopevalley

Created 19 Dec 2022 | Last updated 19 Dec 2022
I have seen this viewpoint on a number of occasions that William and Kate are modernisers and will modernise the Royal Family. What do you think? Personally I think Charles is a moderniser, and William and Kate are traditionalists and will change nothing of any importance unless they

Goodness me.

Dear lord, make it stop.

You are obsessed with these two aren’t you?

Anyone who believes that some people are born with a divine right to rule other people is a traditionalist. And usually a rather stupid one.

Why don’t you try reading about something else? Have you read Harry Potter?

Right antelope, I'll give you a new one to post about. Apparently, Kate gifted Harry a "grow your own girlfriend kit" as a jokey Christmas present a few years ago. Look what happened!

@fartichoke

I think you'll find that your post breaks Talk Guidelines, it's a TAAT on speed

Antelope can start what threads she wants, no one has to comment on them if they don't want to, it's not obligatory you know...