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Kate's Official Response to the Netflix Documentary

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KateBain · 16/12/2022 08:37

Keep calm and carry on

Kate's Official Response to the Netflix Documentary
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AreOttersJustWetCats · 18/12/2022 20:55

MarshaMelrose · 18/12/2022 20:45

Is that true, though? That you just have to not do something and you'll never be accused?

Haven't there been a load of convicted murderers released from gaol because they were subsequently proved innocent. How many people are accused of offences and found not guilty? How many people on MN say they've been accused of illegal acts by their ex-spouses which aren't true?

I've seen threads on here where celebrity has made allegations against an unnamed attacker and people have been happy to name individuals and call them rapists, often based on no more than they think they look creepy. Indeed, Harry made an accusation of racism against one unnamed RF member. I've seen people on here say it's, Charles, Anne, Camilla and William. They even accused Philip until Harry ruled that out. Only one person was guilty but all were called racist for the comment. And it might not even have been one of them that said it.

An anonymous twitter account started the William affair rumour. A gossip site started the Meghan yacht girl rumour. Neither are guilty of those accusations but people still repeat them.

Lord McAlpine was openly accused of being a paedophile on twitter. Lots of people accused him of it. It wasn't true. Sally Bercow had to pay £310,000 in damages as did others.

Carl Beech accused a number of men of being in a paedophile ring, of torture and murder. The Met police said they believed his allegations. Those men had their homes raided, dying loved ones questioned, lost jobs and reputations. Some died not knowing if they'd always be branded as a paedophile. Or their wives died with perhaps some doubt of whom they were married to. On MN, as indeed across all social media, people openly said that they were all paedophiles and they'd always known that was the case. I saw people who hadn't even been named branded as a paedophile all because they were of that age or political leaning. There will be people on here today who will still believe it....because they read it on twitter.

You seem very smug that because you haven't committed a certain act, you'll never be accused. I guess that's what all these others thought too.

The context behind this was that a poster made a comment that was straight up racist, and then claimed a "witch hunt" when they were told they'd been racist. Your examples are not applicable.

CathyorClaire · 18/12/2022 20:58

just wondering where one would find this info!

The Court Circular is a revealing source.

Apparently lots of me-time between telephone call 'engagements'.

MarshaMelrose · 18/12/2022 21:01

The context behind this was that a poster made a comment that was straight up racist, and then claimed a "witch hunt" when they were told they'd been racist. Your examples are not applicable.

I don't care about the context. I'm interested in the poster's statement that stands on its own - that they've never been accused of racism because they've never said anything racist. Ergo, if you don't do something wrong, then you'll never be accused of it.
I've just demonstrated that's a very naive and simplistic statement. It's actually easier than ever to be accused of something you haven't done. And, therefore, just because you've been accused, it doesn't mean you committed the act.

Aspiringmatriarch · 18/12/2022 21:07

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 20:41

Out of curiosity where did you get your data? Not questioning it just wondering where one would find this info!

If they did do half as much as Diana and Charles did - well look at how utterly miserable the latter two were. And how unhappy the boys were. I don’t blame them for not wanting the same lifestyle.

There's a chap called Tim O'Donovan who tots them up each year for each of the Royals and it gets published in The Times. He's been doing it since 1979, apparently as a hobby!

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 21:10

@Aspiringmatriarch thank you!

Blossomtoes · 18/12/2022 21:11

If anyone’s got too much time on their hands it’s Mr O’Donovan!

CathyorClaire · 18/12/2022 21:11

What would happen if George was gay? Isn't his duty to provide an heir and spare?

A childless George would simply result in the crown passing to the next up in much the same way as Great Granny would have eventually clicked had the 1936 abdication never happened.

pinkpapaya · 18/12/2022 21:15

I think she is probably pleasant enough but I don't think she has any depth. For me, she is probably the most over-rated woman on the planet. Girl next door pretty after a nose job, cosmetic dentistry and chock full of botox and filler. No great shakes on the work front ever and was so desperate to marry for status and privilege that she put up with a lot whilst she and William were dating including him dumping her to chase other girls, allowing his friends to ridicule her etc whilst her parents paid out mega-bucks to keep her available at the drop of a hat and able to run with William's crowd. Once they got the goose that laid the golden egg, Carole and Kate weren't going to let go. I think Kate made a deal with the devil but she is happy with what she has, especially as her image has been sanitised so much that she is akin to the Virgin Mary! Professionally, she isn't a patch on Rania, Letizia, Maxima, Mary or Mathilde who all worked before marriage and whose confidence, carriage and charisma speak for themselves. Kate is very beige by comparison and the winsome, homely, goody two-shoes shtick she has going on is wearing thin as she gets older. I haven't seen any evolution. She is in an excellent position to have really done much more for people but she has done the least she could get away with. She lives in a bubble and is very protected (the old silent covenant between senior royals and the Press) and sadly, I don't think she will develop further.

yellowmoosefever · 18/12/2022 21:16

I wonder why everyone feels the need to pick a side. In my opinion, both are right and both are wrong in their own way.
Kate, from whatever little we know and see, grew up in a stable home, has two siblings who have gone on to make their mark in their own way, very sensible parents and a upper middle class upbringing of good schools, college and a good life. She grew up to be who she is today because of the environment she grew up in and she's the perfect mould for someone who is going to be Queen someday.
Megan, on the other hand, had a different upbringing. Parents divorcing when she was young, being raised by a single mum, a mixed race background that would have come with its own challenges especially in that day and age, her foray in movies/tv and trying to find roles that would suit her plus an extended family that seems to have its set of issues with her and vice versa. It's a very different story altogether and of course one is British, the other American. And we know how different these two cultures are!

There is nothing wrong with either of them. They are who they are from the experiences they have had in their life and they are doing what they think is best for them and their family now - one supporting her future husband and playing her role diligently as future Queen and the other who found all this too stifling and wanted to live her life on her own terms.

We are in 2022. We speak so much about being kind when we saw people like Caroline Flack take her own life and yet we cannot leave alone two women who are equally in the public eye. Even if you think one of them is wrong in your opinion, who are we to throw stones at them?

Mandyjack · 18/12/2022 21:20

It's all PR because they don't want to lose public funding! Don't believe in the system it's outdated. Monarchy should be abolished and they should get real jobs like us peasants. The Crown Estate technically belongs to the state and money could be made from all those buildings.

pinkpapaya · 18/12/2022 21:24

Coxspurplepippin · 18/12/2022 20:14

But as detailed earlier on this thread, Anne has said she spent years learning and observing in her charity roles, so for years probably didn't do 300 engagements a year but did a lot of work behind the scenes so that she was confident when representing her charities that she knew what she was talking about and could do her best for the charities. So now she doesn't have to put so much leg work in because she's had 40 or 50 years of experience and knowledge so doesn't have to read all the reports, the history, the expert analysis etc, she can just dive in.

True but Anne was a high level competitive equestrienne and even represented us at the Olympics! This in addition to her charity work and small children (at the time).

Mandyjack · 18/12/2022 21:24

Well said

Blossomtoes · 18/12/2022 21:25

Mandyjack · 18/12/2022 21:20

It's all PR because they don't want to lose public funding! Don't believe in the system it's outdated. Monarchy should be abolished and they should get real jobs like us peasants. The Crown Estate technically belongs to the state and money could be made from all those buildings.

The Crown Estate was given to the treasury by the monarchy. It would be interesting to see the reaction if they decided they wanted it back.

Toomuchtrouble4me · 18/12/2022 21:49

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 19:54

You need to go to Specsavers if you think Meghan’s skin is whiter than Catherine’s

She also only ever dated and married white guys, has publicly celebrated having her dads pointed nose, straightens her Afro hairy and puts CAUCASIAN on her CV. But she plays the race card when she wants to be a victim. She’s a disgrace to people who really do suffer racism and is doing them no favours at all.

MarshaMelrose · 18/12/2022 21:50

Mandyjack · 18/12/2022 21:20

It's all PR because they don't want to lose public funding! Don't believe in the system it's outdated. Monarchy should be abolished and they should get real jobs like us peasants. The Crown Estate technically belongs to the state and money could be made from all those buildings.

Hey, you might think of yourself as a peasant but I'm not. I've met members of the royal family and they've been very courteous and spoken to me respectfully.
Don't project your feelings of inadequacy onto other people.

Toomuchtrouble4me · 18/12/2022 21:52

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 20:05

Was she??

This thread is in part a work of bloody fiction

Yes, she was. Bone Cancer. It was fairly well know gif at least a year before she did. Along with Camillas Parkinson’s- both stories broke and were shut down at the same time.

MarshaMelrose · 18/12/2022 21:53

Blossomtoes · 18/12/2022 21:11

If anyone’s got too much time on their hands it’s Mr O’Donovan!

😂😂😂 Do you think this is one of those identifying hobbies some MNers talk about their husbands doing?

Toomuchtrouble4me · 18/12/2022 21:55

antelopevalley · 16/12/2022 13:02

Why would she sell stories? She lives in palaces, has multiple houses, access to fancy holidays, and amazing clothes. She has zero need to sell stories for cask. And neither has others like William or Charles.
So it seems a strange thing to say when nobody in their position would sell stories to Netflix. Nobody.

Well H&M we’re in the same position, and they did. But then he did only get 13mil from mummy and daddy has stopped giving him money now. Brat.

Theunamedcat · 18/12/2022 22:05

Mandyjack · 18/12/2022 21:20

It's all PR because they don't want to lose public funding! Don't believe in the system it's outdated. Monarchy should be abolished and they should get real jobs like us peasants. The Crown Estate technically belongs to the state and money could be made from all those buildings.

The crown estate and their personal property portfolio are different things they wont suddenly become poor if they lost their royal status tomorrow

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 22:07

Girl next door pretty after a nose job, cosmetic dentistry and chock full of botox and filler. No great shakes on the work front ever and was so desperate to marry for status and privilege that she put up with a lot whilst she and William were dating including him dumping her to chase other girls, allowing his friends to ridicule her etc whilst her parents paid out mega-bucks to keep her available at th

Honestly, the vitriol and bullshit from some posters is ridiculous. Aren’t you embarrassed?

Also I highly doubt she’s had the cosmetic work done you claim but even if she needed it - are you suggesting she’d be it as likeable if she were ugly?

And what’s wrong with having Botox and fillers?

Morestrangethings · 18/12/2022 22:10

“I am guessing you follow gymnastics and/or figure skating from those comments? Sports where maintaining a pre-pubescent body shape for as long as possible helps massively with the physics involved in performing elite skills? Not all women’s sports are like that any more.”

Olympic level women swimmers have talked about body checks, weigh in, limited eating and developing eating disorders as a result.

I experienced it myself as a swimmer, when training one day, as I was getting out of the water coach said to me, ‘bit of a belly, cut back the bread and smaller portions at meals.’

That was many years ago, but it was when I’d just started ‘developing’ as they used to say. I was completely unaware of how my body looked until that moment. Before that moment it was simply the thing that I lived in that helped me jump, dance, swim etc.

I do not think it’s a good thing to point out anything regarding women’s bodies bodies, or question whether or not they have eating disorders. Nor would I put up pictures of them that are meant to focus on their physiques - to prove a point.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 22:15

pinkpapaya · 18/12/2022 21:24

True but Anne was a high level competitive equestrienne and even represented us at the Olympics! This in addition to her charity work and small children (at the time).

This all happened in her early-mid 20’s. Catherine is over 40

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 22:16

Toomuchtrouble4me · 18/12/2022 21:49

She also only ever dated and married white guys, has publicly celebrated having her dads pointed nose, straightens her Afro hairy and puts CAUCASIAN on her CV. But she plays the race card when she wants to be a victim. She’s a disgrace to people who really do suffer racism and is doing them no favours at all.

How do you know who she’s dated?

I don’t blame her for putting Caucasian on her CV in a racist America where mixed race actresses chances of getting a part are so much slimmer than white actresses.

As the mother of mixed race children - she’s not damaging anyone at all. Unless you’re black, that’s not your stake to claim.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 22:17

Toomuchtrouble4me · 18/12/2022 21:52

Yes, she was. Bone Cancer. It was fairly well know gif at least a year before she did. Along with Camillas Parkinson’s- both stories broke and were shut down at the same time.

Well I go off facts not flash in the pan stories with absolutely no evidence whatsoever

antelopevalley · 18/12/2022 22:22

Rockybooboo · 18/12/2022 20:18

What would happen if George was gay? Isn't his duty to provide an heir and spare?

If George was gay he would end up in a lavender marriage.

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