Nottingham Cottage

[KittyMcKitty]

this is really puzzling me. Much seems to be made about H&M livcing in NC and how small it was - Oprah was shocked etc etc. but W&K lived there when they first got together and even after George was born so it’s not like H&M are being singled out / treated badly or anything?! It just seems to be a cute little starter home (well starter in royal terms anyway) and a nice thing.

Am I missing something as to why it keeps being mentioned in a negative fashion?

As far as I was aware w and k have apartment 1a which has 1 extra room.

@DuchessOfPort Jealousy and bitterness? Throwing those insults is always the last refuge if someone who has lost an argument.

Using a 3 bar fire is not a big deal. It is normal for someone born when the queen was. Equivalent to woodburning stove today.

Wearing decades old designer and purpose made quality clothes is no big deal. They are designed well and should not fall apart after a year. The same as wearing tiaras and jewels that are quality for generations rather than a cheap sterling silver necklace where the chain breaks after 8 years.

Apartment 1A has 20 large rooms.
www.vogue.com/article/inside-kensington-palace-apartment-1a-prince-william-and-kate-middletons-london-home

40 rooms if you count small rooms.

Apartment 1A has three kitchens.

They didn’t moan that Nottingham Cottage was small. They said that people would think that because they lived in Kensington Palace that they’d be living somewhere huge, but the reality was they lived in small cottage. They described its character with its low ceilings and the fact that it slants, but at no point did they whinge.

I swear they could tell us the sun was out and the sky was blue and some people would say they were moaning about that, too.

This is daft! Don't you understand you are being fed the frugal RF idea?! Itt's like when the Queen had a tupperware with her cornflakes on the breakfast table and everyone was.... oooh isn't the Queen frugal, she doesn't spend money, she isn't extravagent!
Rubbish! They are cosseted and have full time chefs, cooks, admin staff, private secretaries, nannies, hairdressers, make up artists, doctors, speech writers, ... and so on. W&K catch helicopters like joe public catches a bus.

The tupperware was a clever move, as is the narrative 'gosh Kate wore that outfit once before'. The fact it's dressed up with diamonds, rubies, sapphires etc, seems to escape people's notice! We are spoonfed this nonsense.

They were whinging, they even said they didn’t know who lived there before they must have been short, knowing it was William and Kate and George,and they said Oprah couldn’t believe it that they had to live someplace like that. That we’d not believe what goes on behind the scenes,

I assume it was envy over the fact William and Kate are in aapartment 1a , which is ginormous and they were in a little 1300 square foot 2 bed cottage.

frogmore was renovated for them and they moved into that, it went from a ten bed staff accommodation to a five bed house with a nursery and two new orangeries. It cost two and a half million to renovate

www.houseandgarden.co.uk/gallery/frogmore-cottage-prince-harry-meghan-markle-home

They weren't the slightest bit whinging, they were commenting on it but if you dislike them you would obviously label it as whinging. And for your information, they paid back £2.4million for Frogmore renovations. When it needed renovating anyway, so the RF got a bargain. It is in the Royal Accounts so don't bother disputing it.

Get a grip. They were referring to whoever it had been built for because the ceilings were low. That wouldn’t have been William would it, now?

They paid back all the money that was used to renovate Frogmore Cottage. It’s a pity his brother doesn’t do the same. How many houses has he got? Is it 4?

Bloody hell, people seem to just make shit up about the pair . The frothing over it all is unbelievable. I'm beginning to think some posters can't actually be real

It was their main residence.

They lived there before they moved into the apartment.

Just Harry and Meghan lived there before they moved into a bigger place.

They all lived in small places before marriage (and for a while after while the bigger places are renovated).

William and Harry both had Nott Cot.
Beatrice and Eugenie had apartments in St James.
Edward and sophie had apartment in BP.

Its the way they do it. It’s not remotely exclusive to Harry and Meghan.

Andrew and Fergie only went straight into a bigger place because Sunningdale was bought.

The tupperware was a clever move

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I've forgotten who spilled the beans about Tupperware - a loquacious guest or a palace employee planted by the press, I can't remember but somehow I don't think The Queen had sniffed them out and produced some Tupperware for them to exclaim over.

Yes, tone deaf is what they are. Many people are homeless or struggling to afford their mortgages and they were complaining about the cottage. I think they really are oblivious to how they are behaving because they have shut out do many normal people in their lives.

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Me too. I actually said on another thread that I was concerned that MN is being targeted by bots. So many crazy posts, made-up stuff and vitriol. I can’t believe it’s real people.

The mental dissonance on this thread is staggering. It's abundantly obvious that they were not claiming to be financially hard done by in this documentary - they were claiming to be victims of the press stirring up overly aggressive negative public opinion. and invasive paparazzi, which is entirely separate to money.

It's very ironic to see so many people then doing exactly what they were talking about and coming down on them for a wild misrepresentation that this was a doc of them complaining about money.

I am no M&H fan but to be fair to them I think this was just aimed at the US market as Americans are often appalled at our houses. (Not NYers whose apartments are not like on tv at all and are generally super pokey.)

Clearly those who are familiar with UK locations and prices would think they’ve got a cheek, and it was only a temporary roost anyway, but I think Americans might be surprised they weren’t in Downton Abbey.

If Oprah did comment, which is debatable, then that was very rude. Who tells someone their house is small?!?!

NB, I can see both sides, eg I think the Meghan bullying claims are exaggerated and yes, she may have been demanding, but bullying is targeted nastiness, not being a pain in the arse. So why can’t The Fans ever, ever concede that M&H aren’t always these wonderful, saintly people so sadly wronged?

NB, I can see both sides, eg I think the Meghan bullying claims are exaggerated and yes, she may have been demanding, but bullying is targeted nastiness, not being a pain in the arse. So why can’t The Fans ever, ever concede that M&H aren’t always these wonderful, saintly people so sadly wronged?

For me it's because nothing they are accused of having done could possibly warrant being hounded by paparazzi, or the sheer level of negativity online from the press and public. This is true of pretty much all celebrities experience - we saw a very similar story in the Britney documentary. It's an incredibly invasive and toxic culture where we as a society think it's acceptable to follow these people around constantly and then tear them apart, in our millions for minor things they may or may not have done mildly wrong. To me it doesn't matter if they were a total PITA - and I do think they come across as a bit insufferable sometimes - or even lying about everything they've said. Nobody but criminals deserves the way the public and the press treat celebrities.

Nottingham cottage looks great. A secure, well decorated free house, in a compound in the centre of London.

And you wouldn't bump into either of the awful prince or princess of Kent in there.

Completely agree, I think this contradicts the "richest people in the world" description so it doesn't register.

In reality the family is asset rich but can't sell anything or spend money without public scrutiny.

Charles is talking about giving Balmoral to Scotland as it's not needed. Can you imagine the fuss if he flogged it on the open market.

They seem to try to make the most of this inherited property for family, Prince Phillips mother, a former Greek royal was in a tiny flat. They don't all get a regulation sized palace!

These is an interesting program done by Lucy Worsley on the residents of Hampton Court Palace and the dilapidated state they lived in, with no money for renovations.

No it wasn’t. Why would they want a weekend place 30 seconds walk from their main residence and when their weekend place is in Norfolk?

NB, I can see both sides, eg I think the Meghan bullying claims are exaggerated and yes, she may have been demanding, but bullying is targeted nastiness, not being a pain in the arse. So why can’t The Fans ever, ever concede that M&H aren’t always these wonderful, saintly people so sadly wronged?

I know it's not completely on topic for the thread but I've come to the conclusion that the bullying allegations were part of the smear campaign. Maybe Meghan got upset about something - there was talk of her repeatedly calling an employee out of hours one evening but it was never mentioned what she was actually so upset about. Presumably because that would give context that doesn't fit the Meghan as a baddie narrative.

Jason Knauf brought those complaints against Meghan without the say-so of the supposed victims, and his fingerprints are all over all sorts of things, plus he still works for William.

My point was simply that Harry used it as his home for several years before Meghan joined him there, without any issue.

I am aware that under normal circumstances, houses don't shrink!