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Harry, Meghan and Netflix too

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CathyorClaire · 13/12/2022 20:06

Last thread has filled up so I thought I'd create another to chat trailers and teasers while we hang about waiting for better more truth bombs to drop in the main event.

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Nishky32 · 15/12/2022 23:02

MarshaMelrose · 15/12/2022 18:21

And also, it gives you a renewed appreciation for how Colleen Rooney handled Wagatha Christie, doesn't it!? She made specific, clear accusations, good enough to stand up in a court of law. But was also willing to stand down the fight pre-court in favour of settling. She behaved with far more intelligence.

Yeah, I dont know. She accused Vardy of leaking stories and then tried to backtrack in court and say it was just her account she was accusing. So I would say weasly rather than specific and clear words. Her lawyers were intelligent. Her not so much.

She always said it was RV’s account

JemimaTiggywinkles · 15/12/2022 23:03

On the documentary they said that Meghan won in summary judgement (ie without all the evidence), the mail appealed (at which point Knauf made his statement) and then Meghan won with a front page statement (which read that she’d won her copyright infringement case). I didn’t care much at the time, so took the headline ordered by the court to be accurate. I accept that I may have been wrong though.

JemimaTiggywinkles · 15/12/2022 23:06

She always said it was RV’s account

Tbf, the court accepted that accusing “RV’s account” and accusing RV herself were essentially interchangeable. She won because she was (on balance of probabilities) right that RV was the one leaking stories.

upinaballoon · 15/12/2022 23:16

ivykaty44 · 15/12/2022 16:40

I wonder if part of the problem is that H&M actually were really quite rude to their staff.

yes

From what I've gleaned, but I can't tell you exactly from where, they weren't too good at managing staff well, even if it didn't amount to bullying. Wasn't part of Kate's and William's distancing from them partly to do with that?

MarshaMelrose · 15/12/2022 23:18

Nishky32 · 15/12/2022 23:02

She always said it was RV’s account

You never for one minute thought she meant anyone but Vardy. And she never corrected that.

MardyHa · 15/12/2022 23:23

With the best will in the world, if you’re working for two very stressed bosses, then it will be very stressful. When you add in that you also may have two other very stressed bosses that disagree with the other two very stressed ones and that they’re two sets of married couples… well, no thanks.

MarshaMelrose · 15/12/2022 23:23

StormzyinaTCup · 15/12/2022 22:02

So speculating about divorce is distasteful, horrible and warrants calling out but speculating that someone likes to take it up the arse is not at all distasteful and doesn't warrant a mention - hilarious🤣

If we are talking distasteful then maybe PH likes to take it up the arse whilst playing naked pool in Vegas, it's slightly more believable I think.

I think there are pictures of that! 😉

JemimaTiggywinkles · 15/12/2022 23:37

MardyHa · 15/12/2022 23:23

With the best will in the world, if you’re working for two very stressed bosses, then it will be very stressful. When you add in that you also may have two other very stressed bosses that disagree with the other two very stressed ones and that they’re two sets of married couples… well, no thanks.

Of course. But what I want to know is if they had more staff quit / move on than W&K. Because my only information on this comes from the press (who can be biased) or via an unreliable source (a friend of a friend worked in the royal household).

Though I would point out that there are lots of jobs which are way more stressful (anything medical for instance) but the staff don’t quit on a regular basis. H&M are relatively litigious so one might reasonably assume that if the bullying accusations were demonstrably false (on balance of probabilities) they would have sued over it. But then again, maybe not - court cases are stressful in themselves. Perhaps time will tell - if bullying accusations are true, H&M will continue to lose staff at an alarming rate.

PatientZorro · 16/12/2022 02:44

BreadInCaptivity · 15/12/2022 22:51

I'm not so sure looking at the US news reports.

Some are pretty brutal including CNN.

I feel H&M have naively favoured short term income vs long term wealth.

I remember a PR expert saying at the time of their departure announcement saying they had the potential to become A list players with the ability to harvest golden eggs but to do so they shouldn't do books/interviews etc re: the RF because that was their "laying goose".

I agree @BreadInCaptivity - the US media reaction is interesting and is becoming increasingly critical of H&M. Maybe they’re just getting bored of the non stop whining despite H&M’s privileged lifestyle.

I think that the timing of Covid lockdowns worked against H&M’s quest for glory….rather than glittering galas and Hello magazine spreads they were forced into isolation in their various mansions where they marinated in their grievances. They missed their sweet spot for making a splash on the A lister circuit due to the virus. That was probably William’s fault too.

BornBlonde · 16/12/2022 02:51

I think M was treated unfairly by the press & racism was one of the root causes of that.

However I've cringed watching this, Megan's DD was a scumbag fir selling out his daughter to the press. What H&M seem to miss with glaring lack of self-awareness is they did the same thing with the Oprah interview. Repeated again with the Netflix deal - though they also contradict themselves. Clearly the book will again repeat selling out family.

It's just not believable to most of us that while they struggled to deal with where to live/finding security they also git a 24/7 camera crew to follow them about their home as they read out text messages! The part about Beyoncé texting was just tacky and showing off their famous connections.

They have each other, a fortune, contacts & freedom to do philanthropy plus 2 cute kids. They need to ficus on their mental health & the future and stop selling out their version of being wronged, it cannot be healthy & it's just so tacky

BornBlonde · 16/12/2022 08:00

Rinoachicken · 15/12/2022 17:18

This is what it looked like after Harry and Meghan redecorated - hardly a pokey slum!

And from the lack of a TV I'm guessing they had 2 living rooms.

No concept of the real world where people are homeless or live in overcrowding

BornBlonde · 16/12/2022 08:10

Sorry just realised photo is fake!

CathyorClaire · 16/12/2022 10:23

I remember a PR expert saying at the time of their departure announcement saying they had the potential to become A list players with the ability to harvest golden eggs but to do so they shouldn't do books/interviews etc re: the RF because that was their "laying goose"

Quite surprising a supposed expert might consider a bloke with little discernible talent and his wife whose career peaked in an obscure TV series could become A-listers.

Their connection with the royals is literally the only thing that distinguishes them from any other wannabe.

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whynotwhatknot · 16/12/2022 11:03

LadyVictoriaSponge · 15/12/2022 12:06

After settling into her seat, Meghan claims the head of the plane crew knelt down next to her and gave her some encouraging words.

She explained: 'He took his hat off and I just remember looking at him.

'And he goes, "we appreciate everything you did for our country."'

Discussing the emotional impact it had on her, Meghan continued: 'It was the first time that I felt like someone saw the sacrifice. Not for my own country, for this country. It's not mine.'

I think Meghan should be awarded the Victoria Cross for her service to our country. She really is the gift that keeps on giving.

fgs wtf has she done for ur country what a narc

Peasepuddingbloodycold · 16/12/2022 11:15

Quite surprising a supposed expert might consider a bloke with little discernible talent and his wife whose career peaked in an obscure TV series could become A-listers.

I think at the time of their marriage they seemed quite glam, what with the guests at their wedding. Makes you wonder how, if at all, well they know people like the Cloonies, Obamas, Oprah, Idris Elba etc.

CathyorClaire · 16/12/2022 11:19

Makes you wonder how, if at all, well they know people like the Cloonies, Obamas, Oprah, Idris Elba etc.

Interesting how quiet all of these guests are on the subject.

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bakalava · 16/12/2022 11:20

the Cloonies, Obamas, Oprah, Idris Elba

Always the same crew popping up for the same purpose. Hmm

JamSandle · 16/12/2022 11:20

Megan reminds me of my brothers ex girlfriend who ended up being incredibly manipulative. Obviously Megan is her own person but little things she says and does give me tingles back to my brothers ex girlfriend. There's something disingenuous despite the warmth and intelligence. I'm still trying to decide if it's the American/LA way of being that gives this impression or if it's something deeper.

Sigma33 · 16/12/2022 11:27

It's the juxtaposition to suggest something leaving the option to claim 'but I never said...'

So, lots of Hollywood A-list at the wedding implies these are the circles M moves in, these are her friends. But, of course 'she never said they were her friends'.

Plus the use of David Olusoga to talk about the historic links of the RF with slavery, Empire/Commonwealth etc all of which is accurate and credible history, and creates the impression of an overwhelming force of racism against M. But few specific allegations or any attempt to explore the range of reactions, so nothing that can be denied or held to account.

Like the OW interview 'someone' at 'some point' made a racist comment (unspecified) about the colour of Archie's skin. There is no way to hold anyone to account, including those making the allegation.

CoffeeBoy · 16/12/2022 11:52

Peasepuddingbloodycold · 16/12/2022 11:15

Quite surprising a supposed expert might consider a bloke with little discernible talent and his wife whose career peaked in an obscure TV series could become A-listers.

I think at the time of their marriage they seemed quite glam, what with the guests at their wedding. Makes you wonder how, if at all, well they know people like the Cloonies, Obamas, Oprah, Idris Elba etc.

Didn’t one of the A list guests say afterwards that she was surprised to be invited as she’d only met Meghan once briefly and had never met Harry?

whynotwhatknot · 16/12/2022 12:02

it was all for show that wedding i belive shes friends with serena williams but thats it

Roussette · 16/12/2022 12:18

whynotwhatknot · 16/12/2022 12:02

it was all for show that wedding i belive shes friends with serena williams but thats it

Odd. There's at least half a dozen friends who have spoken up on her behalf on the Netflix series, totally backing her up.

So that's not 'it'

Sigma33 · 16/12/2022 12:21

Roussette · 16/12/2022 12:18

Odd. There's at least half a dozen friends who have spoken up on her behalf on the Netflix series, totally backing her up.

So that's not 'it'

Could you name names (from the A-lsters)?

Roussette · 16/12/2022 12:25

Why have her friends got to be A listers? These were school friends, work friends, people she'd connected with over the years

ThighMistress · 16/12/2022 12:30

But people were talking about the A Listers invited to the wedding, various of whom were surprised to receive an invitation when they didn’tt know them.

I rather think that Oprah /Netflix had been approached prior to any wedding and possibly from the first point of contact between M&H

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