Can Charles remove Harry's 'prince' title

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I've noticed that the Removal of Titles Bill is going through Parliament and people have been talking a lot about Harry and Meghan losing their titles. Does this just refer to the Duke and Duchess titles, or does this also include stripping Harry of being a prince?

Because Sarah using her title has been going on for over 25 years. H&M only left 2 years ago. Come back to me in 23 years and maybe I'll have a different opinion.

You ought to read Sarah's book saying how awful it was living within the Palace walls, the institution, the men in grey suits and so on.

OK, my apologies, you're really struggling with this. Let me give you a hypothetical example.

The BNP (a racist organisation, I hope we agree? If not, substitute the name of an organisation you see as racist) sets up a 'Community Hero' award scheme. They give half a dozen awards every year to people who have done something to help their community. But of course, only to white people who help white members of their community.

They get in touch and say that they want to give me an award because of my (hypothetical) work done to support the elderly in my community.

I am aware of the connection with the BNP and refuse it, because I do not want to be associated with a racist organisation.

However, maybe I am not aware of the connection with the BNP (or of their political agenda) so accept - it's nice to have my efforts recognised.

I then become aware that I have become connected to a vile, racist organisation. Do I a) shrug and say, well, I deserve it, so what? or b) do everything I can to make it clear that I reject the award and do not wish to be associated with them?

Personally I would choose b, even if my hypothetical uncle and aunt chose a (or denied that the BNP were vile racists).

Plenty of people have turned down 'honours' from the Crown as they do not want to be associated with the Empure - here's an example www.theguardian.com/books/2021/jun/14/nikesh-shukla-i-turned-down-an-mbe-i-dont-want-an-honour-glorifying-the-british-empire

Stephen Hawking refused a knighthood as he didn't believe in titles inews.co.uk/news/uk/people-who-turned-down-honours-73244

Others accept it, but later return it to disassociate themselves.

Nothing to stop H&M deciding to disassociate themselves with the racist and colonialist RF who treated them so badly.

Unless, of course, the money they can make buys their conscience.

OK, my apologies, you're really struggling with this. Let me give you a hypothetical example

Just stop with the sarcasm. I haven't been like that with you. Perhaps I will read your post through when you comment on my scenario about the 25 years after divorce of Meghan using the title which you totally ignored.

As I said, come back to me when SF stops using her title. Or 23 years time. Whichever is the sooner.

Two new books due out this year and next.

By Sarah Ferguson, Duchess Of York.

www.goodhousekeeping.com/uk/lifestyle/a41704783/sarah-ferguson-historical-romance-novel/

H&M have made so many unnecessary attacks on royals they deserve to lose titles. Charles should definately strip HRH, because they are not supposed to use them anymore as agreed with late Queen Elizabeth but every so often they use them or an organisation they are working with uses them. I think in time when Prince William becomes King he will remove them if they keep sniping at him and Catherine and doing press releases on exact day one of the working royals starts a tour.

Yes, she should stop using the title.

But the fact she isn't going to doesn't stop H&M being hypocritical in continuing to use theirs.

HTH

Peace and love! Look forward to your thoughts on my hypothetical example!

@caringcarer I agree the issue is that Harry and Meghan are critical of the institution of the Royal Family. That is what is seen as unforgiveable.
Raping sex-trafficked teenagers, dodgy financial dealings and changing the law to benefit yourself are all fine as it only negatively affects plebs but keeps the institution intact. That is why they don't really care about what Andrew or others have done because it does not attack the Royal Family as an institution.

Do you have a little thing there for Sarah Ferguson, @Roussette ? Or maybe on commission? 😉

In other words, as long as you are not the worst behaved, however hypocritical your behaviour you get a free pass.

Well, I don't agree. Each to their own.

I am happy to attack the RF as an institution - it's a tad ridiculous in this day and age.

But H&M are attacking it while also insisting that they are part of it. Which is why I think they are hypocrites.

How can they help organisations using the wrong title, though? Royal titles are complicated (because they’re all a load of bollocks). People would refer to the Queen as HRH but she wasn’t; when Prince Philip died loads of places got the title wrong, putting the “the” in the wrong place.

And as for press releases on the same day as royals do tours, what? They’re not working royals. They don’t have to align their press office with that of Kensington or Buckingham Palace.

It always amazes me some people think Harry and Meghan should align what they are doing with what the royals are doing. They are nothing to do with the Royal Family and their press office and official engagements. THey can do what they want.

Absolutely.

And the BNP is a very extreme example, surely?

In other words, as long as you are not the worst behaved, however hypocritical your behaviour you get a free pass

Sarcasm continually doesn't make me what to read your posts.

*want

I wish they could, surely his behaviour is treason?!
Blimey!🤣🤣

I’ve never heard him described as a genius. Or any member of the RF for that matter. I mean that would require a true suspension of belief🤣.

I’m not saying the Palace doesn’t lie. I wouldn’t believe a word they say and everything is orchestrated to protect the Monarchy. I’m just intrigued about what Harry is referring to in this instance. Or maybe he’s just saying generally “William is always protected” without giving specific examples.

The Palace released a story that William had an IQ test after he left school and his IQ put him in the genius category.

Nicely sidestepped!

And actually it wasn't sarcasm. it was pointing out the underlying argument in your posts - Andrew and Sarah are worse, so no-one can criticise Harry and Meghan.

As opposed to my argument, which is there is plenty to criticise about Andrew and Sarah, and things to criticise about Harry and Meghan.

Haha; bet his 2:1 in geography has Mensa members quaking in their cardigans.

Did they? How funny?

I didn't see it - can you link?

No sarcasm, rightio!

"To try to simplify (though I suspect the lack of understanding is deliberate)"
"OK, my apologies, you're really struggling with this"

Patronising.

No sidestepping. Even I can't liken the RF to the BNP.

My apologies if I came across as sarcastic.

However, whatever your perception of my attitude, I think there is something of substance underneath my unfortunate manner that you seem to be avoiding

Racism. Slavery.

Wat's the difference between the RF and BNP?

Can you provide a link to the statement please? Your post is the first I’ve ever heard of this claim.