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Can Charles remove Harry's 'prince' title

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gottogo23 · 10/12/2022 12:47

I've noticed that the Removal of Titles Bill is going through Parliament and people have been talking a lot about Harry and Meghan losing their titles. Does this just refer to the Duke and Duchess titles, or does this also include stripping Harry of being a prince?

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antelopevalley · 12/12/2022 18:40

@Sweetpeasaremadeforbees No I do not have a subscription to archive newspapers. Do you?

jeffgoldblum · 12/12/2022 18:40

@Sweetpeasaremadeforbees , don't waste time or money, there is no proof .

MarshaMelrose · 12/12/2022 18:42

antelopevalley · 12/12/2022 18:37

And the gorilla report was not googable until recently when a clip was leaked and David Jason talked about it. When my mum first told me I googled and there were zero hits.

David Jason was misquoting what he remembered from the documentary. And got it wrong. Because that what happens with memory.

The entire film is still held at Buck P and genuine researchers can pay to view the film. If what your mum said was true, I'm sure we'd all know about by now.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 12/12/2022 18:42

No I do not have a subscription to archive newspapers. Do you?

No but I bloody wish I did have!

don't waste time or money, there is no proof .

don't worry I have far better things to spend money on.

MrsTumblebee · 12/12/2022 18:44

LuluBlakey1 · 12/12/2022 18:38

I wondered if the 'lie to protect my brother' was a hint about the supposed affair.

But the palace didn’t lie about Williams affair (that didn’t happen). They didn’t comment on it all. And if they didn’t comment on it how could they have lied about it?

However, I do think Harry has played a blinder here and people will think - he must be referring to the affair.

He really is showing himself for what he is.

stuntbubbles · 12/12/2022 18:44

Not a sausage. Perhaps different keywords might help narrow it down but I can’t be bothered to do it. But access open to all, no need for newspaper archives!

Can Charles remove Harry's 'prince' title
antelopevalley · 12/12/2022 18:44

MarshaMelrose · 12/12/2022 18:42

David Jason was misquoting what he remembered from the documentary. And got it wrong. Because that what happens with memory.

The entire film is still held at Buck P and genuine researchers can pay to view the film. If what your mum said was true, I'm sure we'd all know about by now.

Or maybe his memory was right?
And don't be naive. If David Jason was right do you really think they would allow people to view an unedited film?

antelopevalley · 12/12/2022 18:46

@stuntbubbles Could you show me a screenshot of the news articles you manage to google about him that were written and published in 1997?

MrsTumblebee · 12/12/2022 18:48

JustLyra · 12/12/2022 18:39

The IQ claim was not big news. It was in the news for a day.

Theres no chance a member of the royal family getting an IQ score of near genius would be in the press for only a day and never mentioned again. Especially not William.

that’s just not remotely plausible.

Especially when he then went on to do so badly at Sandhurts with his 7/10.

You need 10/10 to be a genius there, on that particular test.

stuntbubbles · 12/12/2022 18:54

antelopevalley · 12/12/2022 18:46

@stuntbubbles Could you show me a screenshot of the news articles you manage to google about him that were written and published in 1997?

No because I haven’t done that? But if there was a palace press release it’ll be in the palace archives – everything is on there.

I do concede your point that trying to prove things from 20 years ago is impossible as the internet updates: you can’t, for instance, get the original newspaper headlines about Diana being injured in the car crash. Because when those stories were digitised they used the morning editions updated with her death, rather than the 3am breaking news.

But what I don’t understand is why we’re talking about gorillas and IQs when I suspect Harry is talking about something that happened after he met Meghan. My money is on the flower girl drama rather than the alleged affair.

Roussette · 12/12/2022 18:55

Sigma33 · 12/12/2022 18:29

Bless 😂

Sorry you don't have any answer to logic

I can't be arsed to engage with patronising sarcastic posters.

Enjoy your evening.

antelopevalley · 12/12/2022 18:56

@Roussette Good call. I wish we could block on MN.

Roussette · 12/12/2022 18:59

LuluBlakey1 · 12/12/2022 18:32

Sarah Ferguson is Duchess of York in the way that signifies she was once Duchess of York. She is not HRH, The Duchess of York and not entitled to be addressed as 'Your Grace' or 'Her Grace'. She is Sarah, Duchess of York. Same was that Diana was, before her divorce, HRH The Princess of Wales and after her divorce 'Diana, Princess of Wales'.

What's your point?

She has been divorced from a member of the RF for over 25 years and uses her title prolifically.

If she can use it for decades to flog books, give interviews, sell wedgewood, weight watchers..., I think Meghan... married (not divorced) to a member of the RF... can use her title Duchess of Sussex

Sigma33 · 12/12/2022 18:59

Odd isn't it? Recollections. I was a decade older and not particularly paying attention, but got the impression that William's A levels were respectable but no more considering his educational advantages. And no-one had a problem with that. The embarrassment was with Harry's lack of ability. So his other qualities were played up.

And no-one embarrassed themselves by claiming he had got into Sandhurst on his own merits, let alone into an elite regiment. Instead the news the evening he graduated (passed out? whatever trainee officers do) was that he was chosen to do all the high profile bits and pieces of the best cadet/trainee/whatever title. No real attempt to persuade us it was for any other reason than he was HM's (who was reviewing them) grandson

Sigma33 · 12/12/2022 19:01

Roussette · 12/12/2022 18:55

I can't be arsed to engage with patronising sarcastic posters.

Enjoy your evening.

In other words, can't respond to the logic.

No problem, I'll ask you the same questions on other threads from time to time.

Unless H&M decide to repudiate their titles, in which case I will join you in extolling them

Sigma33 · 12/12/2022 19:03

Roussette · 12/12/2022 18:59

What's your point?

She has been divorced from a member of the RF for over 25 years and uses her title prolifically.

If she can use it for decades to flog books, give interviews, sell wedgewood, weight watchers..., I think Meghan... married (not divorced) to a member of the RF... can use her title Duchess of Sussex

Of course she can flog her title and royal connections.

The reason people are questioning it is because she is also claiming (probably rightly) that the institution is racist and based on slavery. And therefore questioning why she wants to associate with it by using the title

LuluBlakey1 · 12/12/2022 19:04

Roussette · 12/12/2022 18:59

What's your point?

She has been divorced from a member of the RF for over 25 years and uses her title prolifically.

If she can use it for decades to flog books, give interviews, sell wedgewood, weight watchers..., I think Meghan... married (not divorced) to a member of the RF... can use her title Duchess of Sussex

My point is she is using a title that she is entitled to use. If Charles did what I suggest in my other post, she would no longer be able to do so. It would get rid of a lot of hangers-on- SF, Andrew, Harry and Meghan, Beatrice, Eugenie, the children of the Dukes ofKent and Gloucester, Prince and Princess Micheal.

Roussette · 12/12/2022 19:07

Sigma33 · 12/12/2022 19:01

In other words, can't respond to the logic.

No problem, I'll ask you the same questions on other threads from time to time.

Unless H&M decide to repudiate their titles, in which case I will join you in extolling them

I have no idea what you now want me to respond to because you are incessant.

Don't bother with the other questions, thanks for the offer though.

Let me know when SF gives up her title and I will be having a different conversation with you than this.

beAsensible1 · 12/12/2022 19:07

PeaceJoySleep · 11/12/2022 13:50

They need 9 million a year for security??
Wow. If that's true they need to move to a much smaller house (which wouldcstill be ten times as big/nice as my own), get jobs that don't require trading off their titles, give back the titles voluntarily (?) and just enjoy living a still very privileged life.

They make things hard for themselves.

You think if their house was smaller they'd need less security 😅

Roussette · 12/12/2022 19:08

Sigma33 · 12/12/2022 19:03

Of course she can flog her title and royal connections.

The reason people are questioning it is because she is also claiming (probably rightly) that the institution is racist and based on slavery. And therefore questioning why she wants to associate with it by using the title

You're happy with her flogging her title. Don't criticise Meghan for doing the same then.

CurrentHun · 12/12/2022 19:09

I can’t see Charles ever doing it. It’s like disinheriting his child. I wonder if William might want to, though, depending on what comes out in the next Netflix episodes. It’s a very sad family situation but formalising punishments like this won’t solve anything.

Roussette · 12/12/2022 19:09

beAsensible1 · 12/12/2022 19:07

You think if their house was smaller they'd need less security 😅

I believe the 9 million is a DM load of nonsense, don't believe everything you read!

antelopevalley · 12/12/2022 19:11

CurrentHun · 12/12/2022 19:09

I can’t see Charles ever doing it. It’s like disinheriting his child. I wonder if William might want to, though, depending on what comes out in the next Netflix episodes. It’s a very sad family situation but formalising punishments like this won’t solve anything.

I can see Charles doing this. He has always struck me as petty.

Sigma33 · 12/12/2022 19:15

Roussette · 12/12/2022 19:08

You're happy with her flogging her title. Don't criticise Meghan for doing the same then.

I don't criticise her any more than SF. I think both are using an out dated institution

But you are quite vitriolic (to use a defender of H&M) against SF

How is Meghan any different?

Sigma33 · 12/12/2022 19:16

They are both using the title to make money