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Is Harry just going through a bad case of Limerence?

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Pearmain · 09/12/2022 17:40

It seems to fit the description and would explain how it seems like he’s totally taken leave of his senses.

It must be so hard for the Royals but I wonder if they can see this which is why they’ve not cut him off, they know they’ll need to be there to help him pick up the pieces when he snaps out of it.

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lemmein · 10/12/2022 08:00

God you lot are truly pathetic. Grown women ripping another woman apart; a woman you don't know, never will, and has zero impact on your life. Fucking embarrassing!

MassiveSalad22 · 10/12/2022 08:02

Jesus Christ this thread! For people who really hate H& mainly M, you sure love talking about them! 😂

IClaudine · 10/12/2022 08:23

The only bit of the documentary I have seen is the curtseying part, which seemed slightly odd. My main thought on it though is that Meghan has beautiful hair.

Abcghjiu · 10/12/2022 08:24

IamSamantha · 10/12/2022 06:14

So I watched the 3 episodes and have decided H&M do genuinely love each other but it's a not just love its an overly romantised, victim based dependancy. Us against the world.

The cultural differences between USA's positive, self affirming confidence and lack of class hierarchy plus huge racial problems and the British class system, birth right, know your place and social distaste for confident, self affirmative and vocal progression have never been more apparent. You also have Harry who is not as humble as maybe we thought and has been raised knowing he was different, special and never fully meshed with anyone because he is born into such a different world.

Both are damaged and have childhood attachment issues. Neither have found acceptance in the world. They have unmet needs and they can bridge some of that gap with each other and their children but deep down H is angry, hurt, immature and very frightened. M is frustrated, self important has no understanding of British social structure, its complexity and she doesn't seem to get that even if she was white she would still get bad press because of her social status. She only knows this kind of marginalisation due to racism her mother initially experienced and this is why she and her mother perceives it as racism and many in UK do not. For the UK it's not a race issue it's a class issue. Neither are acceptable but the missmatch of these perceptions is a huge communication barrier.

Harry has failed to prepare M for the social difference and class structure. He was so in love with her and gave her too much misplaced credit for knowing how to act due to her public life. He has failed her and he knows it, trying to over compensate now. M needed someone, anyone to take her under their wing in the RF and mold her to match the protocol. I have my doubts M would accept such advise because she simply didn't understand the depth of the protocols and this adherence equates to respect of the monarchy and history of the RF. She is nieve and self important. She would deem it ridiculous the British people see it as disrespectful and self centred and H floats along with rose tinted glasses and huge deep seated fear he's going to be abandoned again by the nearest person who reminds him of his mother.

H&M don't feel heard or understood, the British people feel their heritage has been attacked and are defensive. The media in the UK has no morals, its all about what sells and they do and will destroy people.

It's a mediation nightmare that's go too messy with cultural differences of the USA's loud, self affirmative and modern culture against the UKs 1000 year old institution of its Monarchy, class structure and need for refined, respectful, underplayed controlled behaviour which is certainly not achieved by a netflix contract 🙈. A simple book is deemed as in poor taste in the UK.

This is the most articulate and accurate description of this sad situation that I have ever read. Thank you. It sums it all up.

INACGMOOH · 10/12/2022 09:00

Whattaboutit · 09/12/2022 18:18

He was too young when his mother died to be able to have a clear view of her personality and character. Any woman who gave him a hug and a bit of nurturing would remind him of her.

WTF????

BonnesVacances · 10/12/2022 09:10

IamSamantha · 10/12/2022 06:14

So I watched the 3 episodes and have decided H&M do genuinely love each other but it's a not just love its an overly romantised, victim based dependancy. Us against the world.

The cultural differences between USA's positive, self affirming confidence and lack of class hierarchy plus huge racial problems and the British class system, birth right, know your place and social distaste for confident, self affirmative and vocal progression have never been more apparent. You also have Harry who is not as humble as maybe we thought and has been raised knowing he was different, special and never fully meshed with anyone because he is born into such a different world.

Both are damaged and have childhood attachment issues. Neither have found acceptance in the world. They have unmet needs and they can bridge some of that gap with each other and their children but deep down H is angry, hurt, immature and very frightened. M is frustrated, self important has no understanding of British social structure, its complexity and she doesn't seem to get that even if she was white she would still get bad press because of her social status. She only knows this kind of marginalisation due to racism her mother initially experienced and this is why she and her mother perceives it as racism and many in UK do not. For the UK it's not a race issue it's a class issue. Neither are acceptable but the missmatch of these perceptions is a huge communication barrier.

Harry has failed to prepare M for the social difference and class structure. He was so in love with her and gave her too much misplaced credit for knowing how to act due to her public life. He has failed her and he knows it, trying to over compensate now. M needed someone, anyone to take her under their wing in the RF and mold her to match the protocol. I have my doubts M would accept such advise because she simply didn't understand the depth of the protocols and this adherence equates to respect of the monarchy and history of the RF. She is nieve and self important. She would deem it ridiculous the British people see it as disrespectful and self centred and H floats along with rose tinted glasses and huge deep seated fear he's going to be abandoned again by the nearest person who reminds him of his mother.

H&M don't feel heard or understood, the British people feel their heritage has been attacked and are defensive. The media in the UK has no morals, its all about what sells and they do and will destroy people.

It's a mediation nightmare that's go too messy with cultural differences of the USA's loud, self affirmative and modern culture against the UKs 1000 year old institution of its Monarchy, class structure and need for refined, respectful, underplayed controlled behaviour which is certainly not achieved by a netflix contract 🙈. A simple book is deemed as in poor taste in the UK.

This is good.

The only thing I disagree with is the racial aspect. We may not have racist intent towards her, but there is a very real, very dangerous racist undercurrent in the UK and if they say they felt afraid and they needed security because of that, they're in a better place to know that than we are. I'm prepared to take that at face value based on the BTL comments on the Daily Fail and on Twitter.

I also agree with the angle in the Netflix programme that Brexit emboldened the racists and that racist abuse has ramped up since all that. And that it's extremely likely that H&M were on the receiving end of that with some very serious threats towards Meghan and Archie.

pizzaHeart · 10/12/2022 10:07

I agree with @HeadAboveTheParapet that Harry’s a terrible husband. He knew what kind of rules existed in the family, not in details but in general: rules around clothes, topics of conversations, manners, etc . Yes, he didn’t know that women were supposed to wear tights but he knew that you couldn’t wear what you wanted. He didn’t help Meghan to fit into the family. Probably not because he’s such a free spirit, but because he’s not very clever and he didn’t realised what kind of complications it would mean for her. He didn’t fight for her in a sensible way, trying to resolve the issues, it’s more like he was trying to make a point. It’s not entirely his fault.
I agree with Sarah Vine that he’s a damaged young man and all the past of the family backfired with him.
@saffronrabbit is spot on - H&M love each other but they are not healthy for each other.
They probably can manage together fine but they need to recognise their inner problems and work on them rather then spend time doing films about their bad families.

GrazingSheep · 10/12/2022 10:14

she and her mother perceives it as racism and many in UK do not

Do you think many in UK think the tweet from Danny Baker when Archie was born is not racist? The one with the photo of 2 well dressed people holding hands with a chimpanzee?

BellePeppa · 10/12/2022 10:20

I can understand them not wanting the royal life but I wouldn’t want the life they’ve now chosen either. Personally I think both lifestyles are unappealing, both lifestyles require you to be in the public eye and both lifestyles are up for grabs to the media and public.

bakalava · 10/12/2022 10:21

The plain fact is that they have created a reality TV series so they are now reality TV stars so nobody should be questioning another person's right to discuss them. They have given it up like the Kardashians and others. They have got rid of the boundary, they need to be discussed, loved, hated, the lot to make their money.

IamSamantha · 10/12/2022 11:35

BonnesVacances · 10/12/2022 09:10

This is good.

The only thing I disagree with is the racial aspect. We may not have racist intent towards her, but there is a very real, very dangerous racist undercurrent in the UK and if they say they felt afraid and they needed security because of that, they're in a better place to know that than we are. I'm prepared to take that at face value based on the BTL comments on the Daily Fail and on Twitter.

I also agree with the angle in the Netflix programme that Brexit emboldened the racists and that racist abuse has ramped up since all that. And that it's extremely likely that H&M were on the receiving end of that with some very serious threats towards Meghan and Archie.

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Interesting! I struggled to see the link and thought it was a bit of a stretch but it's obviously resonated with others. Definitely something I can learn from.

IamSamantha · 10/12/2022 11:47

GrazingSheep · 10/12/2022 10:14

she and her mother perceives it as racism and many in UK do not

Do you think many in UK think the tweet from Danny Baker when Archie was born is not racist? The one with the photo of 2 well dressed people holding hands with a chimpanzee?

One person (biggotted idiot) tweeted this. It was utterly appalling, exceedingly racist and in my view unforgivable and cannot be justified. He was instantly sacked and investigated by police.

BUT this was an extreme situation and does not represent the majority. In every society you get extremes of behaviour especially when freedom of speech is in play. It's doesn't mean it represents the views of the nation, far from it.

BedTaker · 10/12/2022 11:55

GrazingSheep · 10/12/2022 10:14

she and her mother perceives it as racism and many in UK do not

Do you think many in UK think the tweet from Danny Baker when Archie was born is not racist? The one with the photo of 2 well dressed people holding hands with a chimpanzee?

I don't think it's very fair to claim that Danny Fucking Baker represents most people in this country.

I'm still stunned he did that tbh, what was he thinking? (Probably similar to what Harry was thinking when he wore a Nazi costume to a party and used racial slurs towards a colleague I suppose!)

radrado · 10/12/2022 12:02

I know ffs Danny Baker. That was an absolute shocker and the vast majority of people are horrified by it! Yes the UK has racist elements that we need to keep working on/calling out and improving but it’s more tolerant than every other nation I can think of. I mean look at the issues with the US, they’re not in the best position to comment on our racism. They have huge issues.

Sux2buthen · 10/12/2022 12:06

They're a happily married couple. It's not that deep

IamSamantha · 10/12/2022 12:41

Sux2buthen · 10/12/2022 12:06

They're a happily married couple. It's not that deep

Yes it is. They keep telling us how deep it is. How unheard they are and how hurt/vulnerable they feel.

They're not just saying look how happy we are and netflix hasn't paid them 100mill for a "we love each other" strapine. I believe it went "when the stakes are this high" "the RF is riddles in unconscious racism", "I was suicidal" etc

Sux2buthen · 10/12/2022 12:54

Well clearly the obvious racism she has experienced is that deep.
I'm referring to all the 'limerance' and 'she doesn't really love him' bullshit.

RambamThankyouMam · 10/12/2022 13:01

McBurgerTime · 09/12/2022 18:28

Some of you are absolutely deranged with your Meghan obsession.

He's been with her for 6 years, married and they have two children. Is your husband in love with you or is it just limerance?

I don't imagine many other people in 6-year relationships with two children are leaving their family and making cringeworthy Netflix documentaries...

MarshaMelrose · 10/12/2022 13:15

They seem perfectly happy and obviously in love. I don’t get the obsession some have with wanting to see them fail. I hope they go off laughing into the sunset with their millions of dollars from Netflix.

If they'd just gone into the sunset, we wouldn't be talking about them. They'd be almost forgotten. But if they make a tv programme, then they're going to be discussed. Particularly when they're accusing British people of wholesale racism. Because, honestly, that's all they've got. If they just said, we weren't happy with criticism and harassment, no one would be interested. Sadly we've seen that before. So just add in everything was racism.
Ive always believed they love each other. She positively glowed on her wedding day. I don't think its a particularly grand love affair. It seems quite normal to me. I've seen predictions their marriage will fail, which even if they fall out of love, will never happen. They're like Edward and Wallis. Stuck together no matter what. But I have never seen anyone hope that they will.

diddl · 10/12/2022 13:37

I think that he's probably quite lost in the life that they are leading now & sits back quite a bit/defers to her.

Totally in the RF didn't suit her & I'm not sure that the "celeb" lifestyle suits him.

It's quite one extreme to the other.

RosettaStormer · 10/12/2022 13:46

diddl · 10/12/2022 13:37

I think that he's probably quite lost in the life that they are leading now & sits back quite a bit/defers to her.

Totally in the RF didn't suit her & I'm not sure that the "celeb" lifestyle suits him.

It's quite one extreme to the other.

I do wonder what the future holds for him now. He can't come back to the UK now, certainly not within the RF fold , and I don't believe she would consider moving back here at all. So he is going to spend the rest of his life in the US, bringing up his kids as Americans, kids not knowing his family at all, apart from perhaps Eugenie. He can't do any meaningful work there as he has no skills. He will be paying tax in two countries I assume also. It's still a novelty to him , but where will he be in five years in terms of life direction? Perhaps he genuinely is happy just pottering around, being told what to do by his wife.

diddl · 10/12/2022 14:09

Perhaps what hey hoped to be able to do was sponsorships(?) like Zara does?

But trading on what?

diddl · 10/12/2022 14:13

Perhaps he genuinely is happy just pottering around,

I obviously don't know what he does all day but I should imagine that he's more than happy at the amount of time that he gets with his kids.

I can see also that ther was unlikely to be a role for his kids within the family so that having the kid/s could be a catalyst for getting out.

pizzaHeart · 10/12/2022 14:32

where will he be in five years in terms of life direction?
He could campaign for abolishing of monarchy to make the family more normal and less special - I thought it’s his main complaint.
And then he and William both would be in the same boat ( without jobs).

bakalava · 10/12/2022 15:46

Well, we know he lives off his inheritance, juggles and plays polo. What other skills is he known to have that we can look forward to seeing? When you are loaded and have staff, the pre-school years are the sweet years when you are moving from one cute family moment to another. He has hardly been in this relationship for long enough to pause for breath.