Royals don't marry for love

[ImJustMadAboutSaffron]

Headline on front page of the Metro seen on the train. Didn't read the article. Said by Harry.

Who's he referring to? His brother?

In fact, it was often said around 2 years ago that the RF and the press created doubt and bad publicity around Meghan and Harry to hide the William affair. That Harry was thrown under the bus to protect his brother.

Rose is a common name and for all we know Pippa named her daughter after an aunt or great grand mother or something. It certainly does not disprove an affair because it's the same very common name. 🙄I think you're reaching there.

That has nothing to do with what I was replying to, which was the suggestion that all this is Meghan's fault and she wears the trousers.

Agree entirely. But makes it easier to manipulate him if she wanted to.

And that is my point with the misogynistic 'she manipulated him' narrative. Also not being book smart doesn't mean he lacks intelligence and can't see if he is being manipulated, doesn't know his own mind, or isn't capable of himself manipulating Meghan.

In his case i think it does mean that, to an extent.

With all their talk about mental health and being kind and tolerant and what not, do they not see how hurtful their continuous comments are to Harry’s family? Why do they advocate being kind to the world when they are clearly being so inconsiderate to those who were both of their nearest and dearest at one point?

I would be so upset at these comments if my SIL had made such remarks in public (or even private!) knowing that people would instinctively attribute them to me.

Anyway, marrying just for love doesn’t always mean a successful marriage. If you love someone deeply and they tick all the boxes for your family and you’re both compatible in other areas too then that a good match.

I didn’t marry husband just for love. I was giddily in love with him, yes and deliriously happy around him. But he also was in the same field as me, we had the same values, we wanted the same things for our future, my parents approved of him immensely and his parents thought I was the bees knees. That made such a huge impact on our decision to marry. 25 years down the line we’ve built a business together and been able to work together for the first 20 years. We all consider practical aspects in our marriage choices and it’s absurd to think they shouldn’t be.

No, Harry needs to respects that he does not know more about another person's marriage than they do. He has no right whatsoever to talk about other marriages in his family - other marriages belong to other people and are their story to tell. Imagine how humiliating it would be to have your sibling imply to the word that you didn't marry for love but only did it out of a sense of duty and then listen to everyone pondering that idea. Awful stuff from two people who are now pretty blatantly bullies. There is stunning hypocrisy that they wanted the public to hear their story only from them and then feels comfortable to say whatever they like about other people. They've taken so many shots at Kate it's hard to believe. The Royal Family must realise that anything they say anywhere near him will be reported faithfully back to Netflix and his publishers. The only option available to them is likely to freeze him out completely so he knows absolutely nothing.

Well if H was supposedly thrown under the bus to protect W, I would expect him to be a big boy and come out and say it.

All we seem to be getting are mealie mouthed comments and sweeping generalisations.

Their truth is fine.

I would prefer the truth.

Sorry their truth is fine for them.

This...

I didn’t marry husband just for love. I was giddily in love with him, yes and deliriously happy around him. But he also was in the same field as me, we had the same values, we wanted the same things for our future, my parents approved of him immensely and his parents thought I was the bees knees.

After living through our respective parents divorces - my parents civil, his bat shit crazy bad - our suitability and compatibility to each other was a massive factor in deciding to go from dating to marriage. I don't get all this 'married for love' as if no logical thought also goes into it - or maybe this explains some of the horrific posts on the Relationships board?

Of course William was going to think about whether the woman he married was 'suitable' . As others have said the women marrying a prince don't just marry the person, they marry the family and more importantly the job. IMO Harry did Meghan a massive disservice by not making this clear, all be probably dodged it to avoid losing her.

1. It wasn't clear at all - hence the thread.
2. Of course the kids probably wouldn't have been interested or watched. All these kids live in a vacuum where there are no parents/grandparents/au pairs who would have watched the programme and discussed it in front of them. . I would imagine it was topic number one over the breakfast table/ at the school gates.

So no, not being over-dramatic. Just know what the school gates are like, and think Harry, for all his references to mental health, seems to have no compunction dishing it out.

My parents talked about a lot of things at the school gates and over breakfast, most things went over my head, just as this would for kids today. I've also worked in a school and know kids. Anyone who thinks any kid even knows about or gives a flying stuff about adult topics like Harry and Meghan clearly haven't been around children much.

Also we all know about Charles' disastrous marriage to Diana and how he was pressured into marrying her. That is infamous. Common basic logic says he was talking about Charles.

He always has to be a bit nasty why can't he just enjoy his beautiful wife, massive mansion and his freedom. He has Invictus and can do whatever charity work he choses the world is literally his why keep taking these petty pot shots.

It would seem odd making this dig at William, Catherine was a 'commoner' wouldn't have been the palace's preferred choice and they met in an organic way, they weren't set up by the RF. The queen and Philip, she had to really push to marry him, lots of officials were against it, whatever happened in the marriage is by the by, she married for love, and women turning a blind eye was even more common for that generation.
Which leaves the car crash of Charles and Diana which is so obvious as to be a redundant comment to make.
I'd be devastated if my brother started making comments about my family like this in the local pub, let alone on Netflix. He's a nasty self centred piece of work. People can blame Meghan all they like, but he's always shown signs of poor me and acting up for attention, right from his late teens. I don't think she mitigates that but it's not her job to.

I’d say rubbish. Yes most royals marry someone “suitable” but then they move in circles of suitable people. They are never going to meet Gemma down the chippy and fall in love.

I think Camilla and Charles have always loved each other, even though they married someone else first time round, they have always had a thing.

I think Fergie and Andrew loved each other too, they still live together and spend time together, and I think Kate and Wills love each other despite the enormous scrutiny their relationship comes under.

Harry seems to think him and Meghan are unique. They are unique but not for the reasons he thinks.

The normal range for onset is 42 - 47

Did P. Anne marry Mark Phillips for love? They had a shared interest in horses, but the marriage still ended in divorce.
Or maybe he meant P. Edward and Sophie? They are still together however many years later.
The late Queen married P. Philip, but as an impoverished minor royal of Greek and Danish descent, was not really very 'suitable' in that sense. But the marriage lasted many years.
Of course the marriage we hear the most, of P. Charles and Diana was very 'suitable', but did not last.

I can’t think of any of the more prominent Royals who didn’t marry for love apart from C and D.

Harry spouts whatever verbal diarrhea his wife tells him to

@Prescottdanni123 Again here we go with the "Meghan is the controlling demon and everything is her fault" misogyny....

Add to that, Harry didn't marry Gemma from down the chippy either.

He married a rich, beautiful woman who was whippet thin and would look cracking walking down the aisle in front of an audience of millions.

I don't think he broke the mould as much as he thinks he did.

But he can’t be talking about William and Kate, as they are the first example of a future monarch being able to marry for love

That's bollocks I'm afraid. Queen Victoria married for love. QEII married for love, George VI married for love (although he wasn't expecting to be king), not sure about George VI.
Going way back Henry VIII married (a few times) for lust, if not love.

Why then does he just sit back and let his wife criticise and spread rumours about his beloved SIL? Why allow NF to target his SIL in the 1st trailer?

Makes zero sense.