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Why do people feel it’s okay to say nasty things about Meghan on social media?

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Lilyyy · 08/12/2022 21:02

Why do people care so much about her and Harry’s relationship and are so intent on just being incredibly nasty about someone they don’t even know or really know the truth about? Harry must love her and be happy so why don’t the media and people on social media just let them be?

genuinely asking as I don’t understand why she gets so much hatred everywhere, must be really bloody hard for them to see it all the time. People act like she’s a murderer or something.

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CurlyhairedAssassin · 10/12/2022 11:52

You read it differently to how I do. To me she was trying to give viewers an idea of how she hadn’t quite realised the extent of the cultural differences before the meeting. I didn’t perceive it as a criticism per se. How people are getting all affronted at that I have no idea, particularly when it’s taken as far as “oh she is critical of the way we do things! She’s not one of us then.” Ridiculous.

It’s the other way round with me, I’m not a hugger, I can see that everyone is different in that regard and sometimes that makes for slightly awkward and comical encounters. Both parties have a little joke about it. I’m sure if I went to the US and relatives of my fiancé were hugging me I’d be taken aback at how different it was. And laugh with others about how awkward I probably seemed to them. There is no criticism, it’s pure observation.

i don’t see that it’s any different the other way round.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 10/12/2022 11:54

Sorry that was to @radrado ’s comment at 9.24

radrado · 10/12/2022 11:58

@CurlyhairedAssassin

I get what you’re saying and I agree in the most part but I feel there’s a critical undertone and superiority with her comments on the differences. Let’s face it, she’s not saying it as a compliment!

CurlyhairedAssassin · 10/12/2022 12:17

bakebeans · 10/12/2022 10:26

So why criticise his own family and shit on his own doorstep? Why not just criticise the British press? Why do an interview with oprah and tell lies on TV whilst his grandfather was undergoing heart surgery? Filming for 2 years in the making and awaiting for the queen had died to release footage.
william has had to live through the same as Harry and more pressure on him to being next in line to the throne. Charles was criticised. The queen had death threats. Lots of celebs like the MR and Mrs Meghan Markle are criticised but don't shit on their own doorstep.

If they hate the UK and the royal family so much and want to be independent and away from the public eye, Why request to keep their titles and release a documentary? They clearly want the brand to be important celebs in America so have played to the American public views.

It’s obvious to me why, it was because when they left everyone was calling them traitors for “abandoning the country”, disrespecting the institution of the royal Family and the family itself, claiming that she was the devil for leading him astray etc etc. because nothing was done transparently when they tried to shine a light on the problems of the institution. What seems to have happened is that when they’ve approached the palace for help with how to deal with all the negative hounding and how they didn’t want a repeat of Diana’s misery, then they got shut down. I bet they just got told to get on with it and not to mess with the institution because that’s just how it is.

When they’ve decided that no, actually that ISN’T the right stance to take in these modern enlightened times and they wanted to do things differently they’ve got told to back down, put up and shut up. I wouldn’t have that, why would anyone? So they left, and because of the disagreements it’s caused bad feeling with the people that ARE left behind. Ie the ones that DO just put up and shut up.

there was no transparency in the move because of this archaic “never complain, never explain” wall that the royal family think they have to continue with to maintain the “mystique” and to keep the serfs in adoration. Because if they were to be more open and the public saw that they are only human after all, with tempers and very nasty personal traits and flaws and infidelity, and worse, the the whole thing comes crashing down, and the monarchy ends. And there are too many people invested in it all who DON’T want it to end.

they’ve missed a trick. I think there COULD be a place for the monarchy, but not in its outdated current guise. The fawning is totally wrong. The curtseying nonsense belongs in the dark ages. The history and pageantry is fine, as are the genuine working for good causes. But no-one should try and pretend that they are better than everyone else by dint of birth, because it simply isn’t true.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 10/12/2022 12:24

I really hope that William and Kate shake things up a LOT and don’t get brainwashed the old white men at Buckingham Palace into behaving a certain way just because “it’s the way things have always been done.”

the Queen unfortunately did little to change the status quo so now we’re stuck with an outdated model that’s not fit for modern times. My teens’ generation don’t read or watch about them or have any interest in them because of the archaic nature of it all. My own 2 barely know who Charles is, never mind Camilla and her background, didn’t watch the queen’s funeral, won’t watch the coronation, etc etc.

if you watch any crowd footage you won’t see many teenagers or twenty somethings in the crowd at all. It’s all older people and those who bring kids who haven’t been able to form their own opinions yet.

Stunningscreamer · 10/12/2022 12:34

It's unbelievable how people regularly post about how much they hate someone they don't know who hasn't:

a) eaten small children
b) isn't a sex abuser
c) hasn't murdered anyone.

And even then I'm not sure I'd need to repeat it over and over again and pore over every aspect of their lives, relationships and body language. It's really unpleasant.

It's become like a hobby for many people I think, and makes them feel bonded with the other nutters people obsessed with them. I can't help but think there's an overlapping Venn diagram with people who became obsessed with Brexit and anti vaxxers. They all have that same unshakable belief, a sense they are in the know and a need to pontificate. Weird.

kirinm · 10/12/2022 13:01

@bakebeans it's completely disingenuous to pretend the press intrusion and abuse MM has received is the level a normal celebrity has to deal with. It suits your narrative for sure but that doesn't make it a good comparison.

bakebeans · 10/12/2022 13:24

kirinm · 10/12/2022 13:01

@bakebeans it's completely disingenuous to pretend the press intrusion and abuse MM has received is the level a normal celebrity has to deal with. It suits your narrative for sure but that doesn't make it a good comparison.

i don't think I've implied it was normal? What a stupid thing to say? I simply implied that others haven't attacked the British public, the royal family and told lies as a result!

bakebeans · 10/12/2022 14:19

CurlyhairedAssassin · 10/12/2022 12:17

It’s obvious to me why, it was because when they left everyone was calling them traitors for “abandoning the country”, disrespecting the institution of the royal Family and the family itself, claiming that she was the devil for leading him astray etc etc. because nothing was done transparently when they tried to shine a light on the problems of the institution. What seems to have happened is that when they’ve approached the palace for help with how to deal with all the negative hounding and how they didn’t want a repeat of Diana’s misery, then they got shut down. I bet they just got told to get on with it and not to mess with the institution because that’s just how it is.

When they’ve decided that no, actually that ISN’T the right stance to take in these modern enlightened times and they wanted to do things differently they’ve got told to back down, put up and shut up. I wouldn’t have that, why would anyone? So they left, and because of the disagreements it’s caused bad feeling with the people that ARE left behind. Ie the ones that DO just put up and shut up.

there was no transparency in the move because of this archaic “never complain, never explain” wall that the royal family think they have to continue with to maintain the “mystique” and to keep the serfs in adoration. Because if they were to be more open and the public saw that they are only human after all, with tempers and very nasty personal traits and flaws and infidelity, and worse, the the whole thing comes crashing down, and the monarchy ends. And there are too many people invested in it all who DON’T want it to end.

they’ve missed a trick. I think there COULD be a place for the monarchy, but not in its outdated current guise. The fawning is totally wrong. The curtseying nonsense belongs in the dark ages. The history and pageantry is fine, as are the genuine working for good causes. But no-one should try and pretend that they are better than everyone else by dint of birth, because it simply isn’t true.

But they wasn't called 'for abandoning the county'. Other Royals have left. Queen Elizabeth's brother to name one hence why she became queen. Why do a documentary whilst the queens husband was in hospital calling the institution. Why couldn't it wait? why insist on keeping their titles if the royal family is so wrong!
There are other Royal families in the world other than in Britain. You never heard Princess Grace of Monaco calling the institution that she married into.

my own personal opinion is that Meghan never wanted to be part of the royal family but wanted the title and to act like royalty but in America.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 10/12/2022 14:47

You never heard Princess Grace of Monaco calling the institution that she married into.

In those days people weren't very outspoken, were they, they were even MORE deferential than now. Anyway, there have been rumours about her death for years. Did she actually have a "cerebral event" or had something gone wrong with the car? I'm not into conspiracy theories but it makes you wonder when you think of Diana.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 10/12/2022 14:50

And have you seen Albert lately? He looks like he feels his position is a burden.

But none of us can know. Until the words come out of an individual's own mouth, on camera, none of us can know. Otherwise it's all just spin.

MaPaSpa · 10/12/2022 15:03

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MarshaMelrose · 10/12/2022 15:26

CurlyhairedAssassin · 10/12/2022 14:47

You never heard Princess Grace of Monaco calling the institution that she married into.

In those days people weren't very outspoken, were they, they were even MORE deferential than now. Anyway, there have been rumours about her death for years. Did she actually have a "cerebral event" or had something gone wrong with the car? I'm not into conspiracy theories but it makes you wonder when you think of Diana.

No, it really doesn't make you wonder. There have been numerous investigations by a variety of different French and British investigatory bodies. They all found the same outcome. Drunk driver, driving too fast, no safety belts. As one French officer said, who do people mext want to investigate it? The pope?
No blinking conspiracy. And Princess Grace was a heavy drinker. It had been known for years.

Loadodbalony · 11/12/2022 17:52

Meghan says she's a 'feminist'. A true 'feminist' would have dragged herself up by her boot straps, paid for her own education or had no education, worked 3 jobs, had 3 kids, been over weight and aesthetically unpleasing to look at and fought against the male backlash to it. Oh no! Miss Markle is as far removed from a feminism as possibly could be, for if she were the first person she would help would b a person who shared the same genetic make-up and was confined to a wheel chair for the rest of her 'natural' and would therefore be never be able to 'Find Freedom' for herself

Roussette · 11/12/2022 18:08

Is that the sister you're talking about? You know... the one who changed her name by deed poll from Samantha Grant to Samantha Markle the minute her sister hooked up with Harry, so that she could sell stories, books and cash in on her name by smearing her? Is that who you mean?

The one who tweeted that Meghan didn't have her children herself but used surrogates?

I'd be NC with a sister like that.

SheldonsShoulder · 11/12/2022 18:19

I think the public drastically underestimate how much their opinions are influenced by the UK media. I don’t feel strongly about H&M one way or the other. I’ve heard family and friends express strong feelings that are irrational based on how little these people directly affect their lives.

MarshaMelrose · 11/12/2022 19:15

SheldonsShoulder · 11/12/2022 18:19

I think the public drastically underestimate how much their opinions are influenced by the UK media. I don’t feel strongly about H&M one way or the other. I’ve heard family and friends express strong feelings that are irrational based on how little these people directly affect their lives.

I'm amazed by this too. People who don't like H&M and like W&C are gullible eejits who spend their spare time just flicking through newspapers to read stories about H&M.
But people who like H&M and dislike the RF are perceptive, intelligent pursuers of truth and justice. You wear the mantle well, you clever old thing. 😁
...even if you do lack a certain amount of self-awareness. 😂😂😂

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 20:00

meinteresamucho · 09/12/2022 02:15

They almost definitely bullied their staff. And she's a proven liar of epic proportions. Surprised so many people keep forgetting these things. These are what has damaged her credibility to the extent that nothing she says about what has happened to her can be fully believed. I don't doubt she's experienced some racism but it isn't the reason most people dislike her. It's the lying and the bullying. Harry seems to have been part of the bullying too hence his own poor reputation these days.

I wonder why the palace wont release the report on the bullying?

Or waive the NDAs?

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 20:02

Roussette · 09/12/2022 17:10

It's definitely different than it used to be. No idea why. I can only imagine it's clickbait and has generated new users of MN. Or their opinion has changed which means anything goes now however bad the post is. It's getting a bit Tattle.

I get the feeling that we have a lot of new mra on the site. A lot of the new nasties do not read as your average woman right> There is an edge to it.

I say lets ignore, not engge and continue the chat!

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 20:04

Redwineandroses · 09/12/2022 17:32

I agree she might not have know the ins and outs but you'd think if you were marrying into something like royalty you'd take the time to do your research.

Yeah they, m&h, must be really unhappy in their own lives to be constantly negative about someone else's lives ie the RF.

When are you off shift?

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 20:14

Loadodbalony · 11/12/2022 17:52

Meghan says she's a 'feminist'. A true 'feminist' would have dragged herself up by her boot straps, paid for her own education or had no education, worked 3 jobs, had 3 kids, been over weight and aesthetically unpleasing to look at and fought against the male backlash to it. Oh no! Miss Markle is as far removed from a feminism as possibly could be, for if she were the first person she would help would b a person who shared the same genetic make-up and was confined to a wheel chair for the rest of her 'natural' and would therefore be never be able to 'Find Freedom' for herself

A true 'feminist' would have dragged herself up by her boot straps, paid for her own education or had no education, worked 3 jobs, had 3 kids, been over weight and aesthetically unpleasing to look at and fought against the male backlash to it.

This is true feminisim?

Can the people who "hate" them see the company you are keeping.

This needs to be on a t-shirt!

You must be the dodgy sister?

derxa · 11/12/2022 20:22

I get the feeling that we have a lot of new mra on the site. A lot of the new nasties do not read as your average woman right> There is an edge to it. Who are you again?

CathyorClaire · 11/12/2022 20:43

What is an mra?

As for original question, I'm not struck by the lying and upstaging and even less struck by the risible attempts to concoct a press stalking narrative using unrelated footage but that goes for both of them not just Meghan.

I do however think they're useful idiots in getting the continued existence of the monarchy under the public lens.

meinteresamucho · 11/12/2022 22:45

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 20:00

I wonder why the palace wont release the report on the bullying?

Or waive the NDAs?

Probably because they love Harry and don't want to see him completely destroyed. And also, I reckon some of them have likely bullied some of their staff in the past too. I've heard reports about both Charles and Andrew and I can certainly believe those about Andrew. With Charles it's entirely possible. He hasn't always come across as the nicest of people. But it also looks like tit for tat and I can see why they don't want to do that.

onlylarkin · 12/12/2022 00:31

meinteresamucho · 11/12/2022 22:45

Probably because they love Harry and don't want to see him completely destroyed. And also, I reckon some of them have likely bullied some of their staff in the past too. I've heard reports about both Charles and Andrew and I can certainly believe those about Andrew. With Charles it's entirely possible. He hasn't always come across as the nicest of people. But it also looks like tit for tat and I can see why they don't want to do that.

I have wondered, based on the reports I have heard on how Charles and Andrew treat staff, why all of a sudden staff is reporting alleged bullying from Meghan?

The narrative out there on Charles (which I don't fully believe) is that he treats staff very badly. If he is that bad, why has no employees filed reports against him? Or Andrew?

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