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Discussing the things we liked about Harry and Meghan's Netflix documentary series

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/12/2022 14:22

There are so many threads on things posters hated about Harry and Meghan, the Netflix series, and fair play to those posters, so I thought I would have a go at stating a thread discussing some of the things that posters liked about the series.

I'll start.

I liked that this was supposed to be this bomb detonation, but has actually been a measured, warm, and loving look at H and M's relationship, and the pressures that the press put on them, and also on other royals. I genuinely did not notice anything incendiary. Maybe that is still to come.

I enjoyed the thoughtful insights shared on the invisible contract, especially, as Harry says, having to perform for a press that you know has said hurtful things about people you love.

I loved the warm memories of Sandringham, and meeting the Queen. And Meghan's memories of growing up. I think it was a wise, though sad, that they did not include Thomas. I really loved hearing Doria: my favourite bit is when a journalist offered her money, for an interview about Meghan and she said, "That's my child!"

I also learned for the first time about Meghan's relationship with her sister Samantha's daughter Ashleigh. I had no idea that she had been raised by her grandparents who adopted her, or that she had such a warm and caring relationship with Meghan. Along with Doria's, that was my favourite interview.

I enjoyed hearing from her childhood friends, as it is often said here that she had no friends who came to the wedding etc, just celebrities. They seem a tight nit grip who have been here fr years, and I am glad she has them.

I was gobsmacked that she needed security in Toronto after the relationship was announced.

I also thought the discussion on racism, in its wider context of colonialism and imperialism, was very well done, but then again it was led by David Olusoga and Afua Hirsch, who are always great, and I love their writing.

Most of all I love that Harry confronted head on the Nazi uniform debacle, and what he learned from it. And I loved, loved, loved, the segment on his life in Lesotho where they gave him the Sesotho name, "Mahale". A wonderful name.

“It was one of the biggest mistakes of my life,” Harry said. “I felt so ashamed afterwards. All I wanted to do was make it right. I sat down and spoke to the chief rabbi in London, which had a profound effect on me. I went to Berlin and spoke to a Holocaust survivor. I could have just ignored it and made the same mistakes over again in my life. But I learned from that.”

I predicted on another thread that Harry would address this and other episodes head on in his book. I was scoffed roundly for this. I expect him to say more in is book, and I am happy to be proved right.

If only for this, I am very glad they did this.

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merrymelodies · 09/12/2022 02:03

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Woopdaboo · 09/12/2022 02:08

I don’t understand her ignorance to joining the royal family and having zero idea of the world she was walking into. Is it not an actors/actress job to study/understand/try and identify the role?

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Lampzade · 09/12/2022 02:39

MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/12/2022 14:22

There are so many threads on things posters hated about Harry and Meghan, the Netflix series, and fair play to those posters, so I thought I would have a go at stating a thread discussing some of the things that posters liked about the series.

I'll start.

I liked that this was supposed to be this bomb detonation, but has actually been a measured, warm, and loving look at H and M's relationship, and the pressures that the press put on them, and also on other royals. I genuinely did not notice anything incendiary. Maybe that is still to come.

I enjoyed the thoughtful insights shared on the invisible contract, especially, as Harry says, having to perform for a press that you know has said hurtful things about people you love.

I loved the warm memories of Sandringham, and meeting the Queen. And Meghan's memories of growing up. I think it was a wise, though sad, that they did not include Thomas. I really loved hearing Doria: my favourite bit is when a journalist offered her money, for an interview about Meghan and she said, "That's my child!"

I also learned for the first time about Meghan's relationship with her sister Samantha's daughter Ashleigh. I had no idea that she had been raised by her grandparents who adopted her, or that she had such a warm and caring relationship with Meghan. Along with Doria's, that was my favourite interview.

I enjoyed hearing from her childhood friends, as it is often said here that she had no friends who came to the wedding etc, just celebrities. They seem a tight nit grip who have been here fr years, and I am glad she has them.

I was gobsmacked that she needed security in Toronto after the relationship was announced.

I also thought the discussion on racism, in its wider context of colonialism and imperialism, was very well done, but then again it was led by David Olusoga and Afua Hirsch, who are always great, and I love their writing.

Most of all I love that Harry confronted head on the Nazi uniform debacle, and what he learned from it. And I loved, loved, loved, the segment on his life in Lesotho where they gave him the Sesotho name, "Mahale". A wonderful name.

“It was one of the biggest mistakes of my life,” Harry said. “I felt so ashamed afterwards. All I wanted to do was make it right. I sat down and spoke to the chief rabbi in London, which had a profound effect on me. I went to Berlin and spoke to a Holocaust survivor. I could have just ignored it and made the same mistakes over again in my life. But I learned from that.”

I predicted on another thread that Harry would address this and other episodes head on in his book. I was scoffed roundly for this. I expect him to say more in is book, and I am happy to be proved right.

If only for this, I am very glad they did this.

I thought it was beautifully done.
I watched the three episodes in one go which is unheard of.

I also liked the interviews with Ashleigh . Found it quite interesting that Samantha’s daughter was really close with Meghan. Didn’t realise Samantha left her at six years old

I love hearing Doria speak. Classy lady

Found the bit about imperialism, colonialism and the Commonwealth extremely interesting

Really glad that he addressed the Nazi costume issue.
I like the fact that Harry respects and loves his wife and doesn’t have a problem showing it

Lampzade · 09/12/2022 02:41

TheShellBeach · 08/12/2022 14:29

🙄They're really, really awful. Good luck with getting people to be positive on this thread, OP.

I find M & H completely nauseating.

Wrong thread

Retz1212 · 09/12/2022 02:41

Like them a lot more since watching that's for sure.

I think I like many of the public were so blinded by what our Facebook pages were telling us. The newspapers made it out as though they hated the queen and really did this after she passed away. Shame on them. Paying people to take fake photographs and make fake stories up. It's disgusting and we are so used to it we treat it as though it is normal.

Megan has been a victim of racism, sexism, harassment and bullying. But it's her who is the bad guy ... Hmmm. Wonder who own these newspapers? Oh yes, rich old men sitting on their arses profiteering off people suffering.

Lampzade · 09/12/2022 02:47

This is supposed to be a pleasant thread so I will ignore all the naysayers and focus on those posters who are actually enjoyed the documentary.

Retz1212 · 09/12/2022 02:52

Anyway I really liked the bond they shared. They seemed like a genuine couple and good on them for having each others backs.

Coronateachingagain · 09/12/2022 02:57

Ahahahaha 😅

Lampzade · 09/12/2022 03:03

Wiluli · 08/12/2022 17:12

I liked that their relationship seems real and solid . I loved seeing the old imagoes of Harry , for some reason I never realised how unhappy he looked with all the press around him as a kid , no wonder he felt the need to leave .

Yes, I agree
That is what stood out for me too. He looked thoroughly miserable
He appears to be very happy with Meghan who is a lot warmer and relaxed than I imagined her to be

Lampzade · 09/12/2022 03:08

talkingpaperclip · 08/12/2022 19:52

Favourite part was M's relationship with her niece, of which I was unaware.

For those who haven't seen it, M's sister Samantha had a daughter who was raised by the grandparents and had no relationship from Samantha from age 6. M found out about the niece, connected with her over email, found out that they were of a similar age and interests and ended up becoming very close friends (far pre Harry), including treating her niece to city breaks once M was earning Suits money.

M was told she could not invite the niece to her wedding bc it would draw attention to the bad relationship w Samatha. Samantha's daughter had nothing positive to say about her mum. To me, this said a lot about Samantha's character and M's. I say this as someone who feels pretty neutral about M and H and finds some of their behaviour ridiculous.

She referred to Samantha as her biological’ mother. Definitely an eye opener

Talia99 · 09/12/2022 03:56

I thought the video of the 4 children (William, Harry, Beatrice and Eugenie) at the ski press photocall was awful - William as the oldest trying to cooperate but clearly not wanting to be there, Harry looking blank, Beatrice with a smile that was more of a grimace with terrified eyes and little Eugenie just looking bewildered.

Whatever anyone thinks of the RF as adults, a system that does that to children is not a system that should be allowed to continue. If William’s children are treated the same way, I can see why Harry ran for the hills before he was expected to serve up his kids as well.

BellePeppa · 09/12/2022 04:04

Hopefully once they have made all their money from Netflix, the book and Spotify they will no longer feel the need to keep complaining. They can sit back, relax, enjoy their money and be quiet. I never want to hear about their time in the RF or washing up liquid commercials or anything else they have been repeatedly harping on about in order to make money.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/12/2022 04:55

Justasec321 · 09/12/2022 01:37

I am going to jump on this thread if you don't mind. Like a lot of posters I do not get the rage against these two.

But I really HATE the way the women who marry in to the Royal family are used as human shields to protect the men who HAVE THE BLOODLINE.

Woman pitted against woman.

All of those men are shameful which makes me think that Harry has substance after all.

After all the headline handwringing they are very galant towards everybody. Her father was a disgrace, and yet she is vey graceful about him.

Her mother is amazing.

It did not come across as whiney at all.

I wonder if the problem really rests in the fact that they are hugely charismatic and outshine the main players?

Such a great post.

Had not thought about this before but yes, the married in women are pitted against each other to protect the bloodline males. And the children are thrown in too. Risible.

You have also put your finger on the issue. There is a developing narrative that Charles, Cam, Will and Kate are the "New Fab Four".

Which, if you look at it is actually pitiful, that Charles the king, having waited so long, and Camilla, have been rehabilitated over years, still needs to be sprinkled with some stardust from his heir and wife.

But even that New Fab Four does not have the charisma of the ones "Overseas". Expect to see W and K do more M and H-like things in the future, eg, releasing loved up black and white photos 😁They may even start holding hands all the time!

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/12/2022 05:00

BellePeppa · 09/12/2022 04:04

Hopefully once they have made all their money from Netflix, the book and Spotify they will no longer feel the need to keep complaining. They can sit back, relax, enjoy their money and be quiet. I never want to hear about their time in the RF or washing up liquid commercials or anything else they have been repeatedly harping on about in order to make money.

Seeing as they are never going to "be quiet" at your command, because they have voices they plan to use, I suggest the best thing to do is not to attempt censorship on two strangers who don't affect you other than irritate you, but avoid them.

It's not hard to do.

I can't abide Nigel Farage, who makes my skin crawl. I have not heard his voice since 2017

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Onedayatatime22 · 09/12/2022 06:52

I loved the contributions of David Olusuga and Afua Hirsch.

anexcellentwoman · 09/12/2022 07:21

They will make £88 million from this series. They are now set for life. They can afford to do whatever they like in the sunshine, being glamorous, all hearts and flowers. I don't think for a second that the Royal Family will go after them but journalists will. They have trodden over too many people to show their version of their story and many of those people will remember. Harry makes jokes about dressing as a Nazi but his use of derogatory terms to describe Muslims that he worked with (all caught on camera) won't go away. The Royal Family will remain dignified and silent but there are other 'versions' of the Harry and Meghan experience out there and a lot of money to be made from investigating these truths.
I think a lot of people who have never particularly supported the Royal Family now feel very protective towards them. Harry and Meghan in the long run may well have done the Royal Family a huge favour. There is a lot of sympathy for them in their position.
Will Harry and Meghan care? Not having made £88 million. I was offended by Harry's comments about 'gingers' and how well he had done for himself as a 'ginger ' . No doubt the Muslims he mocked and the offence he caused to the Jewish community will also remember. It is hard to be the ones mocked by Harry and memories are long.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/12/2022 07:27

anexcellentwoman · 09/12/2022 07:21

They will make £88 million from this series. They are now set for life. They can afford to do whatever they like in the sunshine, being glamorous, all hearts and flowers. I don't think for a second that the Royal Family will go after them but journalists will. They have trodden over too many people to show their version of their story and many of those people will remember. Harry makes jokes about dressing as a Nazi but his use of derogatory terms to describe Muslims that he worked with (all caught on camera) won't go away. The Royal Family will remain dignified and silent but there are other 'versions' of the Harry and Meghan experience out there and a lot of money to be made from investigating these truths.
I think a lot of people who have never particularly supported the Royal Family now feel very protective towards them. Harry and Meghan in the long run may well have done the Royal Family a huge favour. There is a lot of sympathy for them in their position.
Will Harry and Meghan care? Not having made £88 million. I was offended by Harry's comments about 'gingers' and how well he had done for himself as a 'ginger ' . No doubt the Muslims he mocked and the offence he caused to the Jewish community will also remember. It is hard to be the ones mocked by Harry and memories are long.

If all is as you say, then the Royal Family has nothing to be worried about and everything to be grateful for as they now have more support than before.

Because to read the wall to wall coverage in the Daily Mail, Meghan, singlehandedly, will destroy the Royal Family.

Good to know that's not the case!

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anexcellentwoman · 09/12/2022 07:57

Thank you @MrsMaxDeWinter. I clearly remember Diana's death and the aftermath. Everyone loved Diana but surprisingly there was huge support for Charles when he remarried. Very quickly public interest shifted from Diana to the young royals and yes Harry was particularly good value in that respect. As Harry said himself, the nation took William and Harry to their hearts and became overly invested in their lives. William was quiet and kept his head down. Harry was constantly in trouble and constantly in the Daily Mail as you yourself said. His was the first generation where everything he did was logged on the internet and caught on film. Naked pool side parties a bit of a joke. Horribly racist remarks towards his Muslim colleagues in the army when he was serving in Afghanistan not so easy to laugh off. There was a lot of outrage from the Muslim community at the time. I wonder if Meghan would find his behaviour so easy to forgive if he had made those remarks about black people rather than 'brown'. I suspect not. People are generally not so forgiving when 'funny' use of abusive terms becomes personal.
I hope the Royal Family maintains dignity and does not respond. I really don't think they will. Most people admire restraint and dignity.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 09/12/2022 07:58

I liked the house they filmed in.

And the chickens looked really good.

Roussette · 09/12/2022 08:07

Had not thought about this before but yes, the married in women are pitted against each other to protect the bloodline males. And the children are thrown in too. Risible
I agree. The kids on the ski slopes are appalling... do we have to make out the RF are oh so wonderful, by wheeling you young kids to face a barrage of press and no doubt all the pictures were commented on. The price of their skiwear, how they look or don't look like their parents etc. It's all quite disgusting that the RF think this is OK.

I think a lot of people who have never particularly supported the Royal Family now feel very protective towards them. Harry and Meghan in the long run may well have done the Royal Family a huge favour. There is a lot of sympathy for them in their position

I think a lot the opposite. I am reading a lot of favourable comments from all over the world. Some of their 3 episodes needed saying and perhaps the RF have had it their way for far far too long. They need to modernise and take note of what the toxic press does to married ins.... for the sake of George and Louis. I see a lot of sympathy for them.

HereForTheFreeLunch · 09/12/2022 08:08

I loved the chickens too!

I was fully prepared to find them nauseating (I didn't like the Oprah interview - it felt really fake to me) but I found the first two episodes very warm and natural.

No doubt a lot of editing there and picking the best footage for the narrative - but still I see nothing to hate.

anexcellentwoman · 09/12/2022 08:36

I agree with Rousette that there will be a huge amount of interest in George, Charlotte and Louis. They are still too young but once they become teenagers, interest in them ramps up massively. I remember the huge interest in William and Harry when they were teenagers and young adults. . For youngsters coming though of the same generation of Prince George , Princes Charlotte and Prince Louis, it will be these that they identify with and show interest in. William and Kate are over forty and lovely as they are, they will be seen as middle aged. Just as Prince Charles was regarded as boring and old by many of the generation that followed William and Harry. I loved the photo of the Queen with her younger grandchildren and great grandchildren. Those youngsters are growing up fast and will attract a lot of attention when they become teenagers. I suspect Prince Louis will follow in Prince Harry's footsteps and have a huge fan club from the younger generation.

anexcellentwoman · 09/12/2022 08:37

. It is remarkable that there is still so much press attention focused on Prince William and Harry and the extended Royal Family when fifty years ago so many people thought the Royal Family would never survive post war. I remember as a young teenager being bored silly by the staid Queen and dull princes and princess but here we are fifty odd years later riveted by the antics of them all. Some of the supposed republicans ( I was one in the sixties) are now following the antics of Prince Harry with unprecedented enthusiasm. Remember there is no bad publicity. The old fashioned Royal Family would have bored people to death but these latest shenanigans will keep the Royal Family firmly in the public eye.

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