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Am shocked Meghan said this…

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Ndd135632 · 08/12/2022 09:58

She said: 'Even when Will and Kate came over and I was meeting her for the first time I remember I was in ripped jeans, I was bare foot, like I was a hugger, I have always been a hugger I didn't realise that is really jarring for a lot of Brits.'

'I started to understand that the formality on the outside carried through on the inside, that there is a forward facing way of being and then you close the door and thing OK we can relax now, but that formality carries over on both sides and that was surprising to me.'

What an utterly horrible thing to say about your sister and brother-in-law. I am done with her now. People are DIFFERENT Meghan. We are not all like you you you you.

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RaRaRaspoutine · 08/12/2022 10:47

Wow how dare she not be in full ballgown and tiara? Seriously it's not her fault W & K are stiff (which they are allowed to be and I'm not surprised they are given how they have to behave in public).

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 08/12/2022 10:47

Ndd135632 · 08/12/2022 10:18

But it’s not just about the Royal Family. It is so judgemental on a different culture or if you don’t buy that - just a different way of being. Not everybody wants to hug people the first time they meet them. Has Meghan seriously grown up thinking everyone is the same as she is. It’s such a me focused way of thinking.

IME of living in the US, they very much do expect the rest of the world to be like them and are shocked when for example they find out other countries don’t celebrate Independence Day or thanksgiving. It’s a very insular country that provides little or education in schools about the rest of the world, so it’s not really their fault.

Charlize43 · 08/12/2022 10:47

Hugging jarring for a lot of Brits? She has her own reality doesn't she? Maybe constructed to always fit into her self-serving agenda and victim image of herself.

Meghan reminds me of a feminist ex-boss I used to work with where everyday she came in claiming she'd been sexually harassed or touched or a sexist remark had been made towards her, while the rest of us used to wonder why this wasn't happening to us. I mean every single day. She also didn't look like Pamela Anderson, very far from it! I think her self image was that she was irresistible by nature of being female and that all men were sex obsessed.

They call it confirmation bias, don't they? Where the person actively looks for slights and things that will fit into their beliefs and also image of themselves.

Chippy1234 · 08/12/2022 10:48

I wish the silly moo would stop moaning about her lot in life. I heard a clip this morning where Harry said some in the RF dont marry for love... what a vile thing to say. Unlike him of course. They are so so perfect and legends in their own lunchtimes.

I am convinced that she married into the RF to enable her to spout off about pet projects (and do the complete opposite to what they do themselves in real life!). It didnt work did it...... and neither of them liked this. It was their way or the highway.

Ndd135632 · 08/12/2022 10:48

@Needmoresleep interesting. Not as naive as she makes out then ?

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PurpleButterflyWings · 08/12/2022 10:49

There IS going to come a time when people run out of things to bash MEGHAN for.

I can't wait for that day. This is just reaching @Ndd135632

1/10. Lame.

TellMeWhere · 08/12/2022 10:49

Peedoffo · 08/12/2022 10:43

I would hate someone hugging me who I didn't know even if it was my brother's new girlfriend. It's for relatives and close friends only. Didn't Meghan read up on cultural norms? British people don't tend to hug people they don't know unless drunk.

Lots of British people hug. It's not odd.

I've already said this, but why is it her job to bend to their "cultural" norms? Why can't they be warm, welcoming and God forbid, have a hug... I doubt it would do them any lasting damage.

antelopevalley · 08/12/2022 10:49

Needmoresleep · 08/12/2022 10:46

Meghan spent time in the UK when she was filming Anti Social directed by Reg Traviss and released in 2016. That is the period when she was hanging out with show-biz correspondents and asking about the boyfriend-potential of former footballers. I doubt that the Traviss/Winehouse Camden set were big huggers.

They are air kissers and huggers. They are if anything over friendly to people they have just met, far more so than ordinary British people.

maddy68 · 08/12/2022 10:51

ThatEdgyFeeling · 08/12/2022 10:02

Would you have met them for the first time in ripped jeans and barefoot?

Did you dress up to meet your boyfriend's brother the first time? I would definitely have been in jeans and I never wear shoes in my home

Also I hug everyone. (I live in a country where everyone hugs and kisses on greeting each other ).

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 08/12/2022 10:51

I think this reflects badly on Harry more than anyone.

When you introduce a new partner to your family you prepare them for any quirks or preferences so that they aren't caught out by some innocuous thing like wearing your shoes in the house when they are shoes off people or saying grace before eating, or cultures where people hug/kiss/shake hands/bow.

Obviously you aren't always aware that your families quirks are quirks rather than normal but surely Harry knows that his family aren't quite like a normal working American family. He should have some awareness of cultural differences as a result of his position too, he wouldn't walk into a temple in his shoes, he knows who he salutes and who he bows to etc, it is cruel not to share that knowledge.

I would have thought Megan might have asked him, but the onus was on him to prepare her. He really learned nothing from his Mother.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 08/12/2022 10:51

antelopevalley · 08/12/2022 10:25

Can you imagine an MN thread? My in-laws are visiting for the first time and I am being told I have to buy new clothes because my in-laws will not approve of what I normally wear, what should I do?

Also though “met my BIL’a new GF and she came in for a hug. I’m not a hugger and didn’t feel comfortable with this”.

Half of MN would tell her to log it with 101 😂

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 08/12/2022 10:51

I think William and Catherine were simply being cautious - which is understandable. In Meghan's shoes - or lack of them - I'd have been quietly vowing to myself that I would show them I was reliable and trustworthy. I'd realise that they weren't 'huggy Luvvies' but I'd be open-minded about the potential for all four of them to be good friends in the longer term.

bakalava · 08/12/2022 10:51

I don't know why people feel it was down to Harry to teach her how to behave in public. She was nearly 40 and had already been in many other international relationships with a Canadian, an Irishman and so on. There were Hollywood movies and box sets showing British culture in detail and I bet she had watched them all. She was always online blogging, googling. It is fair to say she does not have self awareness

TheFairyCaravan · 08/12/2022 10:51

Stickortwister · 08/12/2022 10:41

I'm too a bit shocked that they curtsey in private.... I'm with MM on that !
I also assumed that once will and kate and the rest of the family were in private they would un clench a bit.... obviously not
Can completely understand why harry wouldnt want to bring up his own children in that environment.

I sort of understand why they curtsy to the Monarch but I don’t understand why they are so formal when they have dinner with their siblings fgs. I’d have thought they all would have wanted to be in jeans and be barefoot in that sort of company.

I’m with Harry and Meghan. No wonder they’ve moved away, I couldn’t stand to bring my kids up like that either. It’s ridiculous

Chippy1234 · 08/12/2022 10:51

Charlize - I had a colleague like this... constantly telling people that she was being approached by various male colleagues in an inappropriate way every single day.

Again she wasnt particularly attractive, far from it. No one believed what she was saying! In her case I believe it was attention seeking and victimhood. Just like Markle.

OriginalOrchid · 08/12/2022 10:52

Ripped jean? Meh, I doubt I'd meet my in-laws in ripped jeans but if my in-laws were royal, I'd definitely want to look at least smart casual.

Welcoming guests in your home barefoot is off-putting. It's not just informal but unusual super weird and shows an unwillingness to fit in straight from the go. I shared a house with some guys from New Zealand in London and they did walk around barefoot in the house and to pop to the shops in summer. It was rather weird, although one of them was rather good looking.

I suspect Meghan asked Harry what she should wear when meeting W&K and he said she looks super hot just as she is, in ripped jeans and bare feet, so they shagged there and then and sadly there was no time to get dressed properly after the fact as W&K were knocking on the door. Harry says that his family were super duper impressed with Meghan and didn't know what to do with themselves 😂he was obviously blindly in love and advised her badly.

antelopevalley · 08/12/2022 10:52

superdupernova · 08/12/2022 10:45

I'm not a fan of their actions but I don't see what's wrong with what she said. I'd find it strange to learn how formal they are behind closed doors. I come from a normal family so meeting my sibling wouldn't be a formal occasion.

I agree that in most British families meeting your sibling and their new partner is not a formal occasion. My DS has brought his girlfriend to meet us. She wasn't dressed up at all and neither was I.

beachcitygirl · 08/12/2022 10:52

It is extremely obvious what most posters & the british press have against Meghan.

saltofcelery · 08/12/2022 10:52

She hasn't said anything wrong here? Not sure why you're so up in arms about it. Would a suit and heels have been more appropriate for you? Like a job interview?

Foolosophy · 08/12/2022 10:53

I’ve only started the third episode but so far I find very little has been said about the Royal Family. Meghan and Harry seem to blame the press, or tabloids, rather.
I think overall they’ve played their hand terribly badly but so far this documentary is not shocking or mean spirited or blaming any one person or persons. Charles can relax, I think😁 Mind, I haven’t finished.

antelopevalley · 08/12/2022 10:53

@OriginalOrchid I thought most families in Britain were shoes off houses?
So most people in Britain are barefoot, with socks or slippers. So informal is the norm in peoples own houses in Britain.

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 08/12/2022 10:54

I'm watching the Netflix show now and it's just covered the 'straight out of Compton' thing. Claiming she was from a gang rife area, taking pictures of random houses on Skid Row saying that's her mum's house etc when MM has never lived in Compton.
Headlines flashing up saying "Royal Shame! Megan's Mum Hits Laundromat" etc.

I mean, why aren't people more cross at this?

I'm a hugger. I'll hug absolutely anyone. I'll also wear what I like and I dress in scruffs most of the time. I think I met my in-laws wearing jeans and a jumper. Sat and had coffee with them still wearing my beanie hat. Somehow I haven't shamed them or offended them.

Blossomtoes · 08/12/2022 10:55

antelopevalley · 08/12/2022 10:53

@OriginalOrchid I thought most families in Britain were shoes off houses?
So most people in Britain are barefoot, with socks or slippers. So informal is the norm in peoples own houses in Britain.

Only in the confinement of MN. I don’t know of a single shoes off house.

beachcitygirl · 08/12/2022 10:55

Ndd135632 · 08/12/2022 10:18

But it’s not just about the Royal Family. It is so judgemental on a different culture or if you don’t buy that - just a different way of being. Not everybody wants to hug people the first time they meet them. Has Meghan seriously grown up thinking everyone is the same as she is. It’s such a me focused way of thinking.

This could be just as easily a criticism of K & W.
Why didn't they realise people are different, cultures are different. Why didn't they (when going to her home) try & find out about expectations/culture? Why didn't they ask Harry how to behave appropriately when meeting her in her home?

Let's face it K&W have staff & television they can figure out how people that aren't the RF behave.

Bloody incredibly bad mannered of them.

luckylavender · 08/12/2022 10:55

Ndd135632 · 08/12/2022 09:58

She said: 'Even when Will and Kate came over and I was meeting her for the first time I remember I was in ripped jeans, I was bare foot, like I was a hugger, I have always been a hugger I didn't realise that is really jarring for a lot of Brits.'

'I started to understand that the formality on the outside carried through on the inside, that there is a forward facing way of being and then you close the door and thing OK we can relax now, but that formality carries over on both sides and that was surprising to me.'

What an utterly horrible thing to say about your sister and brother-in-law. I am done with her now. People are DIFFERENT Meghan. We are not all like you you you you.

I think this has nothing to do with being Royal. She's a hugger & doesn't understand people who aren't. That's her issue not theirs. I'm not a hugger & so I completely understand. Meeting future family for the first time, ripped jeans and barefoot seems a tad disrespectful to me.

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