Meghan - lucky life

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Sounds a weird thing to say. But Meghan really has had the life of a lot of women's complete fantasies hasn't she ?

• born in hot / glam country
• parents win the lottery
• received private education. Hobbies. Makes great connections ag school eg Katherine foster
• financially supported into late 20s
• enables her to have a fantasy actress career
• can pay for cosmetic surgery eg nose, chin and hair treatments. Has amazing clothes
• marries a prince
• has 2 kids as an older mother without assistance
• lives in a luxurious beautiful community

Never been unwell , never done a boring / basic job in her life, has no financial worries ever.

On paper it is so much better than my life !!

I've had to grind my way out of poor upbringing and get into higher pay brackets like most do!

Really NOT jealous no. Are you jealous of anyone you know whose behaviour you don’t like? If so you must be a very jealous person.

The general feeling in this country is if you are rich or "lucky in life" you are not allowed to be depressed or suicidal, especially if a woman - what has she got to feel depressed about?
I don't think the understanding of mental health has really moved on at all. People mouth platitudes, but then disbelieve someone who says they were suicidal.

Because you don't hear Kate bleating on about how hard done by she is

Of course you’re allowed to be depressed. No one is arguing that if life in the RF was too tough for her, it was understandable that she might want to leave. However, making money from the whole situation and destroying family relationships in the process is not the way to go about things. She has been shown to be a liar and a hypocrite. She doesn’t seem to give a toss that Harry is left isolated from his family as a result of all this, and the damage will never be repaired.
There are many many people who have a much tougher time in life than they do. They also don’t have the money for the best therapy money can buy and a lovely home, all without having to do any real work for those things. They are both living in another Universe.

Absolutely this.

I don’t like the insinuation she’s had it easy especially as they lost a child between their two children. Whatever stage in pregnancy losing a child is beyond despair and can take a massive mental toll on you for years after. I’ve had four pregnancies with two living children, I’ve mourned my babies and will do for the rest of my life.

Hopefully your teenage daughter isn't aware of your habit of mentally ranking women out of 10 based on their appearance. Hopefully you only do so in your head. "Only ridiculous criticism would be her waist shape". Bloody hell.

People who think this way about women tend not to hide it from their kids as well as they think they do, so it's something you should probably be very mindful of especially with a teenage daughter.

The first time I saw a photo of her I thought 'wow she is 9.5/10' type stunner I mean she's beautiful (only ridiculous criticism would be her waist shape). She's far far more attractive than average, stop and stare attractive (and photogenic)

Kate always to me was a more 7.5/8 of 10 type, the thinness is what makes her look regal I think, if she were a size 14 she's look pretty average. Nice eyes but the skin and hair would go if she didn't have money.

They said on the news this morning that in 21st century UK parents are watering down baby milk because they can't afford it. I don't think this is the time for a pity party for Meghan and Harry and to be honest I don't think people are doing them any favours pandering to it. For their own sakes they need to draw a line and move on. This isn't healthy.

Mental health issues can affect anyone. And there have been plenty of rich celebrity suicides.

I agree though that hearing people feeling sorry for different members of the Royal Family is a bit incongruous in the current climate. I am supposed to feel sorry for Harry no longer financially supported by his dad as rich people often are, to feel sorry for William because of the upcoming documentary, to feel sorry for Charles because Harry has publicly criticised him, to feel sorry for Kate because her son acted up in public, to feel sorry for Charles because his very elderly mother died peacefully at home...etc etc.
And yet those who are having a terrible time are forgotten. Having to water down baby formula is horrific.

Of course. However Meghans miscarriage was written about in highly dramatic terms, as though she alone in the world had experienced such a thing. Most people know someone who has had a miscarriage or have had one themselves. It’s part of life. Mourn with your loved ones but don’t turn it into a drama for public consumption. It may be other members of the RF have had miscarriages. Zara has. They deal with it quite differently. M has to make everything about her and her suffering.

The watering down baby milk really upset me this morning. How can we be in that position? I'm afraid it has made me feel quite critical of all the self pity from Harry and Meghan.

The issue about Harry being isolated from his family makes me smile. He is still in close contact with his cousins, he may be in contact with other family members.
It is his father, his stepmum, his brother and sister in law he is isolated from. The Royal Family appear incredibly dysfunctional. Lots of people have little or nothing to do with family members in dysfunctional families.

They're making millions from Netflix.

Kate and Sophie don't whinge on and on and on about how sad they are though.

Megan and Harry have lost the plot completely. What do they actually have to offer except being professional victims available for sale to the highest bidder? In a fucking difficult world where countless people with no platform are struggling day to day through lives of extreme hardship, the Sussexes are nauseatingly self centred, and totally delusional.

@antelopevalley absolutely spot on. Depression doesn't just know to swerve rich or 'lucky' people the same way broken bones don't.

And this is just another thread calling to all Meghan bashers, come and bash her more.
Andrew's alleged rape of sex-trafficked girls does not generate anywhere near the same outrage. That is misogyny and racism I guess.

And this is just another thread calling to all Meghan bashers, come and bash her more.
Andrew's alleged rape of sex-trafficked girls does not generate anywhere near the same outrage. That is misogyny and racism I guess.
I think people are outraged by Andrew's alleged antics.

It's shocking that there isn't more scrutiny of him by the press, but I don't think you can claim people commenting on the media output of a couple who go out of their way to keep themselves in the media are racist and misogynistic. As a couple they are placing themselves and their drama in the public eye. Doing so means people will comment and no celebrity can demand fawning adoration.

Had Harry and Meghan moved to the states, settled down as private citizens and got on with their more private lifestyle then I highly doubt many people would be talking about them, just like a lot of celebrities who choose the quiet life.
You don't see threads on MN about George and Amal Clooney's marriages, or the Obamas doing press releases about their private life, and it's because a lot of celebrities choose a private life outside of their work. They have a trusted circle of friends and don't seek to thrust themselves in the spotlight. Harry and Meghan could have done similarly but they chose not to.

I don’t think she has a good life and I think she was incredibly naive marrying into the RF. I don’t hate her I feel sorry for her - she has learned a difficult life lesson.

The spares, their spouses and love interests have been portrayed in the worst way - not saying they are saints - but I find it interesting that since Margaret the spares scandals have made it to the papers and portrayed worse. Stories linked to the first in line have always been buried.

I also think it’s telling that since Sophie Wessex everyone marrying into the family
has been from relatively common backgrounds.. Kate, Meghan, Autumn, Jack, Mike. (Eduardo might be an exception? but he’s got his own story).

Chelsy walked away after something she saw at Kate & Wills wedding. So did the other girls from aristocratic backgrounds. They know the family far more intimately than we do.

No because I’m not obsessed. But I did used to work in TV and eeeeeevery single celebrity ever does this: you watch them in the wings of chat shows or whatever being themselves, then there’s a “turn it on for the cameras” moment where they transform from Madonna to MADONNA! or whomever. After the job is done, you switch off the dazzle. It would be exhausting to do otherwise.

None of us can tell from pored-over footage spliced together by crazy people whether he’s happy or not.

I've never seen anyone say that what they've done is worse than Andrew. He's just not in the papers and there's never anything to discuss about him. He should be in prison and stripped of all titles... what more is there to add?

On the other hand, Harry and Meghan put out new tidbits all the time so they keep bringing themselves back up for discussion.

I don’t think she has a good life and I think she was incredibly naive marrying into the RF
I agree she was naive marrying into the RF and to speculate I think Harry has probably done her a massive disservice if he didn't make it clear what the life of a spouse in the Royal Family would look like.
Or he did make it clear, and the pair of them very arrogantly and foolishly thought they were above the institution.

You might be onto something about how the women from aristocratic backgrounds seem to be keeping their distance.

Mental health issues know no bounds, obviously. Harry and Meghan seem to have no compunction about acting in a manner which could cause mental health issues for other people though, do they?

Meghan had a miscarriage. Horrible for her, and the many, many millions of women who go through the same - including Zara Tindall, and the women who experience ectopic pregnancies like Sophie Wessex or serious hyperemesis like Kate.

Harry and Meghan are made ridiculous by their apparent belief that they are the only people since the dawn of time who have a true love story, have a difficult relationship with their families, have mental health issues etc etc.

The bleating about mental health when they are probably causing great anguish to other people - people that Harry at least had a close relationship with in the past - is so completely tone deaf and does make them look self centred.

There is no need to award marks out of ten for looks. Meghan has had a lot of work. Kate has not. Both looks cost a lot to maintain (dental, hair, nutritionist, filler) .
Kate is unbelievably tall and slim and has a much better figure. She also has a beautiful bone structure from the side. Meghan has the pretty girl-next-door thing with a regular figure/height. As an actress, she knows her best angle - it is not the side one
Neither are legendary beauties who would make an impact without the celebrity exposure and effort.

Both have had a lot of work done. Both have a lot spent on hair, clothes and make-up - and it shows.
Both are pretty and slim.
Why all the nastiness about what another woman looks like?

I'm sick of her whingeing. I was brought up by a mentally ill single mother in the 1960's massive stigma.
basically brought myself up amidst utter poverty, educated myself, worked my way through university and have worked hard for 41 years with a serious mental illness (complex PTSD from neglect and violence at home) and live in my own modest home in the countryside.
I have everything I want and I'm happy - happy until I have to listen to their incessant moaning and complaining. Why are they unable to just enjoy their lives.