Meghan and Harry Netflix trailer

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Who is behind the camera taking pictures of Meghan crying?

Phenomenal acting chops from Kate - perhaps she missed her calling

'historians who discuss the state of the British Commonwealth today and the royal family's relationship with the press, the series does more than illuminate one couple's love story, it paints a picture of our world and how we treat each other.'

So they're going to have a pop at the RF, the history of the UK, the Commonwealth etc etc. . Glad we have Harry and Meghan to Megrysplain a thousand years of history to us.

They each did one, and both bitterly regretted it after.
Never did it again.

How many times is this now for H&M??
This isn't a one off, this is just their livelihood now it appears.

Well, it is a private matter and I can’t imagine being publicly criticised for wanting to have my first baby (or any baby) without the glare of the media

That wasn’t the case though, they absolutely wanted media attention, but just the (American celebrity) publicity of their choice.

They wanted to make sure they didn’t jeopardise their exclusive deal with he American network to publicise his birth, and that was worth pissing off the press corps int he UK who give them publicity as senior working members of the royal family. . What they got out of the deal in return has sadly not been revealed.

Well, I mean at this stage are we really expecting any sort of accuracy or research from this pair or the director?

He got a teacher to cheat for him in Art...

“Woman controls narrative around her labour and birth story.” How can anyone be mad about that?!

Whatever H&M say about wanting out of the family, they are clearly very jealous of W&K. They are out now, living the life they wanted, so if there is nothing else behind it, why not just let it go? They are not even in the country anymore, so the RF have absolutely no impact on them.

I blame Harry, I think he was annoyed at being 'displaced' by the arrival of William's children and is more into the grandeur etc. than he would like the public to believe. I also think he mislead Meghan as to what the role would be because he wanted to get her up the aisle as quickly as possible, as his other GFs had backed out. I do think however, Meghan thought she would be a 'star' like Diana and that they could eclipse William and Kate, like a celebrity would in hollywood.

It's all getting very grubby and the Sussexes are showing themselves to be less principled and caring by the day, whilst still shilling the we are so kind and altruistic line. It's also hard to take anything they say seriously after they were so happy to sign up to Netflix, who aired the very disrespectful Diana the Musical, as well as the Crown recreating the funeral etc. I think it will all end in tears for everyone and it will be very sad for the family, not the institution at the end of it all.

“Woman controls narrative around her labour and birth story.” How can anyone be mad about that?!

I think you missed out the key context here : woman in a high profile public position that comes with several obligations acts in bad faith and lies to the national press in order to protect the commercial deal she has brokered behind the scenes, and expects to be immune from any criticism for her behaviour.

Once upon a time their behaviour would have been called treasonous , bringing the royals into disrepute

I doubt he got the teacher to cheat. My guess is the teacher was leaned on by the Head or PC .

😂 Let me guess, you’d like it to be that way again.

They are trashing the monarchy. The queen is dead. USA are probably getting fed up of them. They are just making money. Megan had the perfect opportunity to represent herself in the monarchy as a person of color.

I think it will all end in tears for everyone

Not everyone. Graciousness, diplomacy, keeping one's counsel, manners, and other 'good' traits in people are admired universally and always win out.

Even if the Wales' could respond, there's more strength in staying silent and, frankly, letting them dig their own graves.

I honestly think the two of them are the worst advocates for therapy I've ever seen!

I've always thought this was entirely Harry's fault. I've said on here a few times, that his ex girlfriends all ran because they knew they couldn't handle the pressure and expectations. Rather than letting Meghan know what she was getting herself in for (like William did with Kate), he rushed things. For M, to be a prominent activist like figure, to suddenly move to a different country and be told that for the rest of her life she literally cannot express an opinion, I don't blame her at all for struggling to cope. Any of us would.

I agree she got a bad time from the media. But I also think most of it was social media driven - and unlike W&K who I suspect rarely log in themselves, and therefore, they literally don't see the nasty comments (which is a much better way to be IMO), I've always thought that H&M logged in themselves. Thereby, they were seeing everything constantly which made it much worse.

However. I also think they picked battles for no reason whatsoever, which worsened the relationship with the media.

For example - declaring that she was in labour hours after Archie had been born, and was already home. Refusing to confirm the godparents names. Even stating that they were only going to work with 'up and coming' journalists - mainly because they wanted to control the narrative and bully inexperienced people into writing about them how they wanted to be written about.

I completely understand why they wanted to get away, but I don't understand why they did it as they did. Their petulant 'service is universal' statement and announcing the details on social media the day after BP had been told, before any agreement had been made about the details of it all.

What I don't understand is what is their end game.

What do they actually want?

Because they wanted out. They got it. They wanted to be financially independent. They got it. They are rich, healthy and apparently happy. Why not spend a lifetime enjoying themselves and living the life that they want? Why do they have to constantly rehash the past. Because after the series and Harry's book, they literally have nothing left.

Charles I suspect will continually invite them to events and family gatherings because he's a nice man. William however? I think when he becomes King, they'll be completely banished, in the same way as the Duke of Windsor. I don't think he'll ever be prepared to involve them in family matters, because everything will always be taken the wrong way.

Nothing to do with the World Cup, they have been in the papers every week for the last decade at least.

I don't think the US is getting fed up with them. They'll do this stuff for as long as it sells. And Harry's memoir is already selling like hot cakes and I doubt it's all from American readers.

Everyone on this thread has an interest!

And yes, of course they're looking to make money. This is their job now. And I guess Meghan didn't want to be represented as a woman of colour in the monarchy. Why should she have to just because she's biracial?

MM has brought the ‘stress and pain’ on herself. Harry didn’t seem to have a problem before they met.

I think harry has allowed MM to do his thinking for him. If they had a problem with any aspect of life within the RF after the married, how did they imagine going public with it in the way they did would make it better ? MM clearly bit off more than she could chew wen she married into the RF and I think she saw a way out by exploiting the trauma Harry has experienced, which culminated in her convincing him to abandon his royal heritage for a ‘private’ life. Subsequent events speak for themselves.

She was at a Commonwealth day church service....it would have looked mighty odd to be grinning away while they were honouring the Commonwealth war dead.....Have some respect!

'Whatever H&M say about wanting out of the family, they are clearly very jealous of W&K. They are out now, living the life they wanted, so if there is nothing else behind it, why not just let it go? They are not even in the country anymore, so the RF have absolutely no impact on them.'

Yes why do they keep harping on about her very fleeting stay in the UK. They are milking it and making fools of themselves.

I've never understood the criticism of her around Archie's birth. Every time someone posts on here about an overbearing family they're advised to do the same.

And when Kate had to do the standing on the steps malarkey most on here were very sympathetic and felt it wasn't a fair expectation on her.

I don't always agree with what H&M do, or more to the point how they do it, but I absolutely would have done the same in her shoes.

I have huge sympathy for both of them and for Harry but in terms of what is in their own best interests I think they would be better off keeping quiet and not giving the tabloid press more excuses to write about them.

I very much agree with this. The strongest evidence is always that which speaks for itself.

I'm more a Cromwell fan myself gave the original Charles' his just desserts ! When Charles and Camilla carried on from the off way back when they sowed the seeds of their own destruction,and here we are .... ye reap what ye sow...

M&H have to finance their lives for another 40 years

They were multi millionaires with more than enough to live the rest of their lives very, very comfortably doing good works and raising their family quietly before this jaw-dropping farce ever started.

They have chosen not to and the chickens are coming home to roost.

It's great viewing 😃