Meghan and Harry Netflix trailer

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Who is behind the camera taking pictures of Meghan crying?

There is no point rebutting insinuations, it only gives them more hold.

How can anyone rebut 'someone wondered what the colour of Archie' skin would be'?

Who wondered? When and where? Keeping it vague makes it impossible to rebut. Or to do anything about to address the problem.

It would be hard but at the end of the day, the Harkles are like that fly that keeps buzzing in your ear. It's extremely annoying, and insists on hanging around no matter how much you try to swat it away, but ultimately it's harmless. Best ignored.

I hope Charles and William never ever reply. It’s pointless anyway as people have more or less decided what side they are on and as a pp said it just invites a conversation.
better to ignore.
I’ve no doubt Charles in particular is very hurt and loves his son and wants a relationship with his grandchildren but at the moment he can’t but they will grow up and become adults and decide for themselves.
i have gone from feeling sorry for Harry, to not feeling sorry to feeling sorry again.
I think he thought he’d have more control over things and is realising he has no control at all.
when PC did his interview with dimbleby and when Diana did hers they were both talked into it by advisors. Diana was tricked into the bashir interview with faked documents.
so many people trick the royal family for their own ends.
I think Camilla is very sensible and Charles should listen to her and do nothing

I do wonder if they tried to pull it back after the funeral as was being suggested. I think they thought they were equal or bigger than the monarchy and realised from the queens funeral that was far from the case, but it was too late and it was done.

the rumours were harry was trying to remove some of the damaging stuff from his book and if that’s the case I’m sure they had a crack at Netflix as well, but there is no way Netflix would allow that if they did try

as for piers Morgan, im not sure they pose a threat, they could only do that if people on the whole loved and supported them, public opinion is they are a pair or egotistical whiners.

but that I guess it depends on how far they go , they clearly don’t have the best relationship with the truth as most people define it, if they make even more accusations, particularly about racism then it could be very bad for the royals indeed and they will need to publicly address it.

so I think it depends on how far they go. But as it was rumoured harry thought the backlash would be against them, then i guess the royals are safe.

I was a big fan of Suits so when H&M first started dating, it seemed like a fairytale come true. It seemed like M could be the breath of fresh air that the RF needed. No doubt she was unprepared for what life in the RF is really like and probably didn't anticipate that she'd have her voice and 'power' taken away and would essentially be an ornament. And maybe she thought love would conquer all and had no idea that it just doesn't work like that.

At first I felt sorry for what I imagined she must be going through but my feelings changed when I saw the brief ITV interview H & M did while they were on their African tour.

I used to travel a lot across the developing world with my job (worked in charity aid) and those trips always put my own 'problems' into perspective pretty sharpish. I'd meet people who'd lost so much through famine, violence etc but many also had the sort of joy and resilience that put me and all my petty problems to shame.

So in that environment I was shocked to see M and H being interviewed and saying (essentially) how hard their lives were and how no one asked M how she was.

I watched and rewatched it a few times and just couldn't believe someone could be in that environment and still be thinking about their own problems instead of focusing on the incredible survivors they were surrounded by.

I really wanted to be proven wrong but so far everything I've seen seems to be 'me focused'. I imagine the Netflix series and the book will be much of the same.

In a world where there's so much suffering, I find this really sad and tone deaf.

I have asked this question before and no one has ever explained so will try again .
If it was so bad , so unbearable in the RF why did they want to stay ? Their initial statement in January 2020 made that clear ( collaborate(!) with The Queen etc) but they wanted to make money . IF it was so bad , so unbearable, so racist , if Catherine was so mean , why not say , actually we are leaving to do our own thing .

It so cringe - you’d think they are the first couple to fall in love, get married and have kids - what exactly makes there’s such an incredible love story that we need to hear about it constantly 😂

I thought “good luck to them” when they left, but now I think they need to just move on and stop trading on the past. What exactly do they do???

Charles extended a massive olive branch when he mentioned them and how much they are loved in his his tv speech after the Queen died. And also W&K when they did the walk around with them (even if Kate did look furious 😂).

but they are out for revenge - all I can think is Diana would be devastated at all this conflict between her boys - but no doubt Harry has managed to justify all that in his mind.

all I can think is that for a couple who supposedly hate the press and the glare of publicity so much, they do seem to go out of their way to be in it constantly 🤷‍♀️

it’s all very sad and such a waste of what could have been a real force for good.

I hope that there is no reply & they are just left seething.

Imagine though-the people/institution that you hate so much is the only thing that makes you money/relevant.

Because if they were still working royals they would monetise that connection. Because the Queen said no, they monetised leaving instead

I used to work in a job where things could go wrong and complaints needed to be handled sensitively and thoroughly
Not often a complaint would land 6/7 pages long, so in depth of every detail and and an overwhelming number of grievances .
It often became clear the purpose of the complaint wasn’t to bring an apology /compensation or resolution
We never really got to the bottom of what the person wanted
Harry wants retribution not resolution this will run and run as long as he has someone to support him

Even if they do, when there are people like Omid Scobie out there constantly issuing barbs on behalf of his paymasters, why on earth should they not have a right of reply?

I wonder if they've read the Netflix comments and are now thinking 'oh shit'

The ever present elephant in the room is the state of the other royal marriage. The Sussexes are clearly deeply in love, and that invites obvious comparisons that are very uncomfortable for the monarchy.

I agree . I wonder sometimes if she actually knows who she is. Everything about her is so contrived.

In my experience ( and I am ancient ) couples who are the most demonstrative in public are the ones most unhappy behind closed doors . I have seen several examples in my lifetime .

Absolutely.

I never believe a couple is deeply in love until they invite photographers into their home to film them so in lurve, perched atop the kitchen cabinetry, for all the world to see.

That's amore.

I don't see that at all. Some people are comfortable with PDAs, others aren't. Some people put on an act in public- either very affectionate or the opposite. It says nothing about the state of their relationship.

I'm also not entirely sure what the Wales' marriage has to do with the antics of the aspiring reality show stars in Montecito?

'I think Camilla is very sensible and Charles should listen to her and do nothing'

I agree. It must be excruciating but it is the best approach. We've seen their silly blah trailer with dramatic music, sad faces, whispery voices and tears then you see W&C coolly going about their business and that is what looks good with the public.

People want to see the rf dismiss Harry and his petulant dramas through actions and not being goaded into a response is the better stance imo.

I don’t think they have an unhappy marriage at all. I think they are codependent though, they rely heavily on each other. But that doesn’t mean I think they are happy people. I suspect harry is deeply unhappy , and that will impact everything

if he was happy he’d not be constantly droning on about how hateful his family and the media are, he clearly has significant issues with William and Kate. I’m guessing William supported Harry’s titles being removed and Kate doesn’t like Meghan and that’s the issue . William has it all, he will be king and he was intstrumental in removing Harry’s titles, didn’t support him , the queen will have consulted him and Charles, so they will have had a part in this

I think fundamentally harry is a deeply unhappy man , and being married to a deeply unhappy man is not easy , but Meghan is his enabler, and I strongly suspect she validated and amplified his unhappiness and pushed for them to live a different way

she Clearly thought she was a global superstar and they were going to act as such whilst “collaborating” with the queen , which any fool could see would never happen, and now they are in this mess and harry is even more unhappy

with every interview they become more and more contentious, more disliked, more derived. There is no way they are going home and being all happy at the end of the day .

You would hardly know that my sister and her husband were even a couple if you saw them in a social setting but they are 100% rock solid and love each other deeply.

William and Kate's marriage seems absolutely fine, and certainly a more equal, comfortable and normal relationship than William's brother and his wife's.

Silence is dignified.

The difficulty is the dignity of silence only really becomes apparent over time.

As the arc of the story becomes apparent and we can see who flung mud around, who publically attacked who, who wouldn't let something go, and who despite all this refused to be drawn into the tawdry game.

In the moment of attack silence is hard and can feel weak like you are not defending yourself. But over time that silence looks different it looks strong and dignified.

That's what the queen got so right.

Exectly - as I tell DD at times, just because someone is trying to start an argument with you doesn't mean you have to get in an argument! Having the self-confidence and self-belief to shrug and walk away is a positive.

Meghan and Harry clearly work very hard to present the image that they are more in love than any couple ever before them, I agree. It’s an image they are selling - previous statements about how they are like “salt and pepper, always together” and the trailer for their show makes that clear.

For all the people who like to cast aspersions about the Wales’ though, even though we don’t see them when they are not working they always manage to look happy, relaxed and very much in sync with each other, even when behaving professionally. They do that too often, and far too naturally for it to be an act, I think.