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myrtleWilson · 30/11/2022 12:42

Awful story just broken on twitter about horrendous racist questioning from Lady Hussey to Ngozi Fulani from Sister Space at yesterdays VAWG event.

Lady Hussey has resigned.

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LadyKenya · 30/11/2022 15:31

xJ0y · 30/11/2022 15:24

This lady Susan shouldn't have asked where are you really from Confused but I agree with the poster who suggests that reiterating I am british but my parents came from.............. shouldn't be that difficult.

It is not difficult to do this no, but the question is why should she?

BeginningToLookALotLike · 30/11/2022 15:32

xJ0y · 30/11/2022 15:24

This lady Susan shouldn't have asked where are you really from Confused but I agree with the poster who suggests that reiterating I am british but my parents came from.............. shouldn't be that difficult.

It's difficult when you have been invited to represent your charity but the person greeting you takes one look at you and decides to focus on your heritage instead.

Croque · 30/11/2022 15:32

kirinm · 30/11/2022 15:25

Not at all surprised that you've written this based on the vitriolic posts you make about H&M but Jesus Christ what a leap.

Haha, saw you coming. Well, since I am from a minority religious group through lived experience, I don't seek guidance from anyone who isn't. Your understanding is based on activism and other consumption. You do not walk in people's shoes from watching a few videos 🙄

Justasec321 · 30/11/2022 15:33

Well - I have donated to the charity!

I vote that Lady Susan should donate a years salary too.

Newwardrobe · 30/11/2022 15:33

LookingAtYou · 30/11/2022 14:44

Why didn't she just say 'I'm British but my parents came here in the 50s' and state the country in the first place . What is racist about asking about people's heritage?

If she was told she was British and her family's heritage was irrelevant that would have been racist surely.

I'm white (but could have been born in any European country)so if I'd been asked where I'm from and I said I'm British, the person asking wouldn't have kept on asking, but where are you really from , they would have just accepted my answer. Why should a woc explain her heritage if she's British.

Rummikub · 30/11/2022 15:34

siyanasaysrelax · 30/11/2022 14:49

Nothing racist about asking people's heritage. But that wasn't what she asked. She asked where are YOU from? And insisted that she couldn't possibly be British because she was black (no, where are you REALLY from).

I get this all the time, and I know when it is coming from a place of genuine curiosity (to which I answer, I was born here but my parents are from X) and when it is coming from a place of 'you are brown therefore you don't belong here'. The exchange was definitely of the latter variety

Totally agree. You just know what they “really” mean with some of the questioning. Ive had so many interactions like this. And not in the past either.

Croque · 30/11/2022 15:34

@Justasec321 Oh, a duff note in the echo chamber who just happens to have a more nuanced opinion. I wasn't aware that you were sitting in taking notes when it happened. Eejit.

RedWingBoots · 30/11/2022 15:35

Canthave2manycats · 30/11/2022 15:31

Exactly! All she had to say was, "British born and bred and my heritage is..." - job done without all the trauma! Isn't she proud of where her family came from?

I think people need to remember as well - this is an elderly lady, 83, brought up in a very different culture. Doesn't make her racist?? When you've lived most of your life in an era where your every word wasn't dissected for perceived slights, these PC times must be a challenge. I feel sorry for Lady Susan - I mean, headline news, elderly lady opens her mouth and puts her foot right in it. She must be traumatised too, by the attention this has brought to her and the embarrassment to the RF, as the hysterical go, "oh this just proves they are racist, doesn't it?"

I have 80 and 90 year old white friends. A couple are from moneyed backgrounds. They have never spoken that way about anyone as they have a wide and diverse social circle.

People like her are stuck in the 1950s.

user2315383949 · 30/11/2022 15:35

As a non-white person I am asked this all the time, by people young and old. I don’t mind it and I answer with both my nationality and my birth country. I think the badgering is what’s wrong, she should have left it when it was clear the recipient was not happy. It’s an egotistic power play more than racism I would say.

kirinm · 30/11/2022 15:37

@Croque what are you talking about? Your attempt to minimise this is completely predictable and frankly, your minority religion is of no concern to me. Your hideous posts are.

Activism and consumption?! My entire family are from a different country half of which are non white.

Croque · 30/11/2022 15:39

user2315383949 · 30/11/2022 15:35

As a non-white person I am asked this all the time, by people young and old. I don’t mind it and I answer with both my nationality and my birth country. I think the badgering is what’s wrong, she should have left it when it was clear the recipient was not happy. It’s an egotistic power play more than racism I would say.

I agree. But people of non British origin are expected to pedal a single narrative or it distresses some and you get cancelled.

Spudlet · 30/11/2022 15:40

I’m a white woman with a Northern Irish dad, and I was born in Germany. I look fairly stereotypically Irish in terms of my colouring and until I married and changed my name, I had an Irish surname. I have never once had anyone question me about ‘where I’m really from’ when I’ve told people that I’m English. Not once.

Not only was this woman racist - because I don’t believe for one tiny nanosecond that she’d have been pushing me or someone who looked like me for all the details of my family’s immigration history - she was unspeakably rude to a guest of her boss. Touching someone without permission and refusing to accept their answer to a question - both awful things to do! Both the racism and the rudeness make her totally unsuitable for the job she was doing. But mostly the racism, of course!

Talia99 · 30/11/2022 15:41

Siepie · 30/11/2022 15:16

Are you being deliberately obtuse here?

If someone has told you that they're British, it's racist to insist that they're not based on the colour of their skin. Many white people have parents or grandparents from other countries too. If I told Lady Susan I'm from Yorkshire, do you think she'd keep pestering me until I told her my grandparents are Irish? It's much more likely she'd just accept that I, a white woman, am British. Do you think she'd be "denying me my heritage" if she didn't continue to push me until I told her?

This. One of my grandparents was an immigrant to the UK. I have literally never had this conversation? Why? Because the grandparent in question was white European and it never occurs to anyone I might not be of British ancestry on both sides. I do feel British - why shouldn’t I when everyone I meet treats me (based on skin colour and accent) as being British. If I had to justify my ancestry as POC seem to have to do constantly, I’m not sure I’d feel the same.

Croque · 30/11/2022 15:43

kirinm · 30/11/2022 15:37

@Croque what are you talking about? Your attempt to minimise this is completely predictable and frankly, your minority religion is of no concern to me. Your hideous posts are.

Activism and consumption?! My entire family are from a different country half of which are non white.

I didn't realise I had (another) online stalker 😳So I have never conversed with you on MN but you have been sitting there keeping tabs on me. How strange. We are now going back to the point where I don't bother replying as I have no bandwith for you.

Time machine reverse 😅

Talia99 · 30/11/2022 15:43

Justasec321 · 30/11/2022 15:33

Well - I have donated to the charity!

I vote that Lady Susan should donate a years salary too.

She doesn’t get paid and as far as I can tell has never had a paying job so that isn’t really a solution.

hattie43 · 30/11/2022 15:46

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Talia99 · 30/11/2022 15:46

Just to say my last post was agreeing with the poster who said many Black British people don’t feel British because of constant conversations like this not because I think for one second they aren’t as British as I am.

Timeforachangeisitnot · 30/11/2022 15:47

It’s disgusting behaviour by Lady Susan, and as well as being deeply offensive to Ms Fulani, this is overshadowing the purpose of both the charity she works for and Camilla’s reception.

Educating the palace worthies is not enough- there needs to be root and branch pruning so that bad attitudes to race, class, background and whatever other unsavoury prejudices and habits they have are expunged.

Charles needs to get over any misplaced loyalties and pretty damn quick.

Croque · 30/11/2022 15:48

xJ0y · Today 15:24
This lady Susan shouldn't have asked where are you really from Confused but I agree with the poster who suggests that reiterating I am british but my parents came from.............. shouldn't be that difficult.

I hyave always had to do this when my surname is questioned and I am fine with it because I am proud of my ancestry being different to the person asking and I am keen to enlighten them. Until this PC madness set in a few years ago, it was a normal question which I would be asked almost everyday.

Ch3wylemon · 30/11/2022 15:48

I was so pleased yesterday that the reception had been held highlighting VAWG and celebrating those working on it. Now this silly racist woman has caused untold damage.

SoupDragon · 30/11/2022 15:48

All she had to say was, "British born and bred and my heritage is..." - job done without all the trauma! Isn't she proud of where her family came from?

Is that what you say then?

i mean, I've never said "British born and bred and my heritage is completely British as far as I know".

DrunkenBoat · 30/11/2022 15:48

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Actually, this, and several other obtusely offensive posts on this thread, are way more alarming than an elderly aristocrat being racist.

EmmaAgain22 · 30/11/2022 15:49

SalviaOfficinalis · 30/11/2022 13:34

It’s excellent that it’s front page news.

Horrendous that things like this (and much worse obviously) are still going on. But it’s a step forward that it’s being publicised and condemned instead of people being expected to put up with it quietly.

I saw this on Twitter and I'm one of the replies saying how much it happens to me.

very glad it's front page news.

kirinm · 30/11/2022 15:49

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My Dad is 75 a mere 8 years younger and isn't a racist. It's not hard and she has no excuse despite the best efforts of posters on here to find one.

Spudlet · 30/11/2022 15:49

Is she bollocks ‘ashamed’ of it @hattie43 Fucks sake. She wanted to talk about her work, no doubt, not herself, and anyone up to the job of being part of hosting team would have clocked that and moved the conversation on, not kept badgering the poor woman. But sure, let’s make it the fault of the woman of colour who is a guest rather than of the wealthy and titled woman whose job it was to make those guests feel welcome…!

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