Harry, Meghan and Netflix are go

[CathyorClaire]

The long awaited documentray is hitting the screen on December 8th:

www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/breaking-prince-harry-meghan-markles-28607547

What with the award in a few days and the book in January they're ramping up the game.

Er, just no. The British Commonwealth is soooo far removed from the Commonwealth of Nations. If you're making a documentary criticising the RF and their colonial past and state of relations today, and you don't know the difference between the two, then you're just pulling a show out of your arse.
This isn't the Crown where they could "forsake accuracy" to make up lies and call it "fictionalised dramatisation of reality drama". This is a documentary which is meant to be accurate and not just the equivalent of some 8th graders guessing what things mean. You're talking about real people being accused of doing heinous things. Does that not seem worthy to you of getting the basic facts right?

Again, you are welcome to start a grassroots effort to change the practice for all of the film studios and production companies in the US. Because as of right now, they can and they did.

Again, you are welcome to start a grassroots effort to change the practice for all of the film studios and production companies in the US. Because as of right now, they can and they did.

And given the subject matter they now look stupid.

You’re absolutely right, they clearly can. And did.
But they’re getting absolutely slated for it, in case you hadn’t noticed.

But maybe you’re right, maybe Netflix think it’s all going swimmingly, and are really pleased with the reaction.

@BreadInCaptivity

I agree that things may not happen the way the general public thinks is right, but it does happen.

I feel like they are learning this business, which is different then acting in a show. So mistakes will be made.

I do think that they can be their own worst enemy, but also that the media stirs up such crap about them that they may never be able to make mistakes.

Do I believe they have not been honest? Yes.
Do I believe that the media has caused more problems then they would have had? Yes

I just like to give every situation (no matter the main characters) the benefit of the doubt. If they are wrong, I would say so.

As the Sussex’s are probably covering the costs of the advertising out of their end (per Netflix model) perhaps they chose the cheaper option, as a cost saving exercise.

Of course Netflix is pleased with the reaction. How many people all over the world are going to sign up for Netflix just to watch this? Even the people who loathe M&H are going to watch, if only to find something else to complain about. Bad press sells better then good press does.

Netflix is doing what Netflix does, make money. And they will do whatever they can for the end goal.

But when you are talking about misinformation, and leading the charge against it, you really need to be very transparent in your advertising

Diana was no saint . Ask Will Carling or Oliver Hoare’s wives . Yes, Charles married her for the wrong reason but let’s not pin 100% blame on him.

Using stock photos isn't very 'authentic' is it ?

I said maybe you’re right, maybe they are. I’m not disagreeing with you at all 🤷‍♀️

Why does Harry think he is the only one allowed to talk about Diana ? William also lost his mother . Maybe he doesn’t want her life and death endlessly raked over .
My DB and I had very different upbringings ( he was the Golden Child) and I find it upsetting when he talks about stuff as recollections do indeed vary.

Yes, So long as they pull in the viewers and make lots of money they don’t care how M and H are perceived.

Diana is dead because she got into a car with a drunk driver and didn’t wear a seat belt . Sad but true .

@PicturesOfDogs and I was agreeing with you.

@Ohnonevermind I am still not convinced that the production company creates the trailers and not Netflix. I am still digging for answers, but since I am off to real life happening tonight, who knows if I will get to it.

Yes, So long as they pull in the viewers and make lots of money they don’t care how M and H are perceived.

yes I agree. I have said from the start that they are being

Oh lets!!! The man didn't want to marry her but didn't have the balls to say no. He is that greedy that he wanted to have his cake (Camilla) and eat it too (the throne). Diana loved him and would never have cheated but for his behaviour. Neither he or Camilla are fit to be on the throne and I think the fact that the man has had eggs thrown at him TWICE now since he became King says a lot. He should have went away like his Uncle Edward, did the decent thing and abdicated, taking her with him and we never would have had to see or hear from either of the self absorbed adulterers ever again. How anyone can like or defend either of them is beyond me. Diana is dead because of them.

I like them.

Diana died because she didn't wear a seatbelt.

One thing is for sure though, this is just the beginning.
If people are dissecting the trailer this much, it’s going to get a whole lot worse when the real thing airs.
It will be gone over with a fine tooth comb, fact checked three times over, and once more for good measure. Frame by frame.

The more I read about the Netflix model, the more convinced I am that H&M were brilliant with their choice.

They got paid up front, plus Netflix paid for production costs. They know this is going to be a series, so no ancillary revenue is happening. H&M are out no money for the show, make their payday and Netflix gets to deal with the aftermath.

I still do not believe this is a bad decision on the part of Netflix. They know it will pull in subscribers. But I see very little risk to H&M in terms of money.

I don’t think Charles was greedy. I think he was backed up against a wall. He knew he had to marry someone. That someone had to be a virgin of impeccable character. There weren’t many of those around, and he chose someone he found charming and who he thought would be a sympathetic wife. He didn’t love her. He intended to be kind to her and try to forget Camilla. I think Dianna realised pretty quickly that his heart wasn’t in it. It pushed her over the edge, to the point where she became unstable , desperate, and sad. She then became angry and bitter. She didn’t behave well in the latter part of the marriage. She may have survived the crash if she had accepted Palace protection and worn a seatbelt, or just not have chosen a playboy to mess around with. We will never know.

I think Camilla behaved very badly in those days. She should have steered clear and encouraged Charles to be faithful. She showed no empathy for Diana at all. However she has been an excellent wife to Charles and they both seem very happy. She’s conducted herself extremely well since her marriage and works hard. I have come to like her.

Diana loved him

I think Diana at 19 loved the idea of him and the idea of being PoW.

Realistically, they had only met a handful of times before getting engaged. I very much much doubt either of them knew each other enough well enough to be in love.

Unlike yourself I do have some sympathy for Charles and the pressure he was under to marry (and marry someone "suitable").

I believe it's too simplistic to say he was the villain here.

Upshot is their relationship was a disaster and I think both of them were failed by people around them who should have been more supportive in them both putting the brakes on.

I will also admit to liking Camilla and think she's proven her worth, especially with her work to highlight domestic violence.

Fundamentally, I can't fathom the vitriol against a couple for events that happened decades ago and when the perceived injustice was against a person who was far from perfect herself and caused considerable hurt to others with her multiple affairs.

I'm not so sure.

A payday on this deal perhaps, but at the expense of future income if their reputation bombs?

Netflix is losing subscribers and they have done a cull on numerous projects (including Pearl).

This gig is the "cherry" that H&M have to offer and if it goes poorly it's not only future productions at stake but the Netflix association and public speaking engagements/awards and being perceived as "in" that gets shafted.

Having burnt their bridges with the RF they have embarked on a very high risk strategy and already the signs are that the public is weary of their narrative.

Of course dislikes of a trailer don't mean it won't be watched - perhaps even the reverse, but it's not the viewing motivation H&M were after, nor is it sustainable business model to be a one trick pony.

I don't think they have been clever.

I think they have been deluded about what exactly it is they have to offer beyond their association with the RF.

You are right about them possibly being shortsighted. I think, at the time, they had to find something to pay the bills. Enter Netflix.

It remains to be seen what happens from here, but they at least can pay for security and a mortgage.

I enjoyed the podcast and have Netflix, so I will watch this week.

Thanks for a great discussion. These threads can get so emotional so it is refreshing to disagree and learn new things (on my part). I am headed out for the night!