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Prince Harry's Memoir: A World Publishing Phenomenon

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 27/10/2022 12:41

There will likely be several bashing threads on Harry's memoir before it is published, but I am interested in discussing with anyone who is interested in the very interesting marketing choices of the publishers and their approach.

English language editions of SPARE will be published on 10 January 2023 in EIGHT territories: the US, the UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, India, South Africa and Canada.

The book will also be published in translation in 15 additional languages:

SPANISH Plaza & Janés/Penguin Random House Grupo Editorial
GERMAN Penguin Verlag/Penguin Random House Verlagsgruppe GmbH, PORTUGUESE BRAZIL Objetiva/Grupo Companhia das Letras
PORTUGUESE PORTUGAL Objectiva/Penguin Random House Grupo Editorial, SIMPLIFIED CHINESE Penguin Random House China
DANISH Politikens Forlag
DUTCH Hollands Diep, an imprint of Overamstel
FINNISH Otava Publishing Company Ltd
FRENCH Éditions Fayard
GREEK Pedio Books
HUNGARIAN Corvina Kiadó
ITALIAN Mondadori,
POLISH Wydawnictwo Marginesy,
ROMANIAN Nemira Publishing House,
SWEDISH Albert Bonniers Förlag.

This is absolutely sensational as it means it will be simultaneously published in 23 territories on the same day.

There are not many books where simultaneous release occurs in different markets. From this, I would say that the book will more than earn its advance, just from the foreign sales alone.

They also chose a banger of a title as it puts focus on the troubling notion of the Spare in a system based on primogeniture, and one that imbues both intrinsic and extrinsic value based on a person's birth order.

Imagine growing up knowing that no matter how loved you may be, your constitutional role is ultimately to be the spare to the heir.

Can't wait to read it!

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Croque · 29/10/2022 12:24

O dear, O dear. I think I'll start sewing my sock puppets for Christmas stockings. I sense it is that time. 😂

FavouriteDogMug · 29/10/2022 12:28

They should have called it Going Spare: the man who would not be king.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 29/10/2022 12:32

Croque · 29/10/2022 12:24

O dear, O dear. I think I'll start sewing my sock puppets for Christmas stockings. I sense it is that time. 😂

Are implying that I am "sock puppetting" as @Ladytreacle because she agreed with my post?

Please make a report to @MNHQ if you believe this so that they can clarify things.

Thanks.

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Diverseopinions · 29/10/2022 12:37

Ingrid Seward has said that Diana used to say that he was 'the spare'.

ancientgran · 29/10/2022 12:38

MrsMaxDeWinter · 29/10/2022 12:18

Quite @Diverseopinions

Then there is also the fact that Charles apparently wanted a daughter, and was disappointed when Harry came. Hope to goodness that was not conveyed to him!!

Well Andrew Morton claimed Diana said it so I guess he probably heard it. Some things should not be repeated.

pumpkinscoop · 29/10/2022 12:42

MrsMaxDeWinter
'Your insinuation that I am ignorant because I said I am an African woman, and your statement above, which I initially ignored, that I am "ill-educated" are offensive.'

Ehhh? Where on earth was that implied by anyone on this thread, ever?

Croque · 29/10/2022 12:47

MrsMaxDeWinter · 29/10/2022 12:32

Are implying that I am "sock puppetting" as @Ladytreacle because she agreed with my post?

Please make a report to @MNHQ if you believe this so that they can clarify things.

Thanks.

Huh? I haven't said that. I am currently working on BookyWooky of the furrowed brow and Foxy who was known for getting some strange in Vegas. 😊

MrsMaxDeWinter · 29/10/2022 12:50

Croque · 29/10/2022 12:47

Huh? I haven't said that. I am currently working on BookyWooky of the furrowed brow and Foxy who was known for getting some strange in Vegas. 😊

I am glad to hear it.

Enjoy your project.

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Coronateachingagain · 29/10/2022 12:58

Diverseopinions · 29/10/2022 12:37

Ingrid Seward has said that Diana used to say that he was 'the spare'.

I once saw some Diana footage using the spare word for Harry. She definitely said it

Bovrilly · 29/10/2022 13:01

I remember footage of Diana saying that we were lucky to have William and that "Harry is an airhead like me".

Legrandsophie · 29/10/2022 13:04

@MrsMaxDeWinter

That is a lot of projection you’ve got going on there.

I have no idea who you are. You are a stranger on the internet. I have no idea if anything you’ve said about yourself is true. You could be called Bros and be posting from Siberia for all any of us know.

All I have posted out is that you have said wrong, culturally insensitive things about British culture that make you sound fanatical and intolerant.

There is no pass that allows anyone to propagate harmful stereotypes about other cultures. It is wrong in all instances.

Coronateachingagain · 29/10/2022 13:05

OP:"I understand perfectly the history of the Church of England, thank you."

No you don't. If there are any people that do not rather believe anyone "appointed by God" in this day and age are CoE followers.

It's a system. It's a legacy system. It's a constitutional no arqueta hundreds of years old. It needs to change. But this doesn't mean that all people think the king was appointed by God!

AutumnsCrow · 29/10/2022 13:06

I've just had a lovely google of the origins of the phrase 'the heir and the spare'. It was apparently coined by an American woman who married into british aristocracy.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-woman-who-coined-the-phrase-the-heir-and-the-spare/ar-AA13unHY

Croque · 29/10/2022 13:14

Interesting. So is he is inadvertently turning on the only remaining person in his direct ancestry who was previously idolized rather than berated. Of course, she cannot address the comment because she is long dead. She was a young, immature parent with her own difficulties so it is not a reach to believe that she kept saying it.

It is strange because his business model is centered upon the difficulties he experienced because of losing her. It involves putting her on a pedestal even though she was far from saintly.

Does her death really excuse his hostile behaviour or simply mask the fact that had she lived, he may well have gone rogue and pointed the finger at her (instability, divorce, affairs, potentially remarriage one or more times) without bankable potential. Is he angry with just the bloodline royals or her as well as them?
Does his anger extend to cover the whole nation and culture because it is displaced anger which he cannot park anywhere? If he manages to transform the anger, will he be able to utilise it as a superpower a la Hulk? How will he remove himself from purgatory if unlimited access to the full LA therapy menu has only made a monster of him so far?

Coronateachingagain · 29/10/2022 13:16

Coronateachingagain · 29/10/2022 13:05

OP:"I understand perfectly the history of the Church of England, thank you."

No you don't. If there are any people that do not rather believe anyone "appointed by God" in this day and age are CoE followers.

It's a system. It's a legacy system. It's a constitutional no arqueta hundreds of years old. It needs to change. But this doesn't mean that all people think the king was appointed by God!

*monarchy 😅

Ohnonevermind · 29/10/2022 13:50

thank goodness he’s the spare and not the Heir. He completely lacks curiosity, he was immersed in the royal family and has left without any understanding, just a sense of self importance and a load of grievances.

The ghostwriter would have had his work cut out managing any more depth than a puddle. A pile of turd in any language is still a pile of stinking turd.

I wonder which awards they’ll buy for it

milti · 29/10/2022 14:38

Looks like he was really left out - poor Harry

Prince Harry's Memoir: A World Publishing Phenomenon
MrsMaxDeWinter · 29/10/2022 18:18

Coronateachingagain · 29/10/2022 13:05

OP:"I understand perfectly the history of the Church of England, thank you."

No you don't. If there are any people that do not rather believe anyone "appointed by God" in this day and age are CoE followers.

It's a system. It's a legacy system. It's a constitutional no arqueta hundreds of years old. It needs to change. But this doesn't mean that all people think the king was appointed by God!

Then I guess there will be no church involvement in the coronation then and the Archbishop of Canterbury won't anoint him with oil.

And there will be no choral singing of "Zadok the Priest" prior to the anointing.

Good to hear there will be a move from this anachronism that the Church of England "no longer believes"!

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 29/10/2022 18:40

Croque · 29/10/2022 13:14

Interesting. So is he is inadvertently turning on the only remaining person in his direct ancestry who was previously idolized rather than berated. Of course, she cannot address the comment because she is long dead. She was a young, immature parent with her own difficulties so it is not a reach to believe that she kept saying it.

It is strange because his business model is centered upon the difficulties he experienced because of losing her. It involves putting her on a pedestal even though she was far from saintly.

Does her death really excuse his hostile behaviour or simply mask the fact that had she lived, he may well have gone rogue and pointed the finger at her (instability, divorce, affairs, potentially remarriage one or more times) without bankable potential. Is he angry with just the bloodline royals or her as well as them?
Does his anger extend to cover the whole nation and culture because it is displaced anger which he cannot park anywhere? If he manages to transform the anger, will he be able to utilise it as a superpower a la Hulk? How will he remove himself from purgatory if unlimited access to the full LA therapy menu has only made a monster of him so far?

These are questions the answers to which we can all spend lots of threads speculating on but only one person can actually answer them -- and that is Harry. So isn't it brilliant that he is finally speaking for himself, and has employed one of the best writers in the business to work with on his memoir?

The ghostwriter would have had his work cut out managing any more depth than a puddle. A pile of turd in any language is still a pile of stinking turd

I fear you will be disappointed. The writer in question has an excellent reputation. He will produce anything but a stinking turd.😀

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PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/10/2022 18:49

susan12345678 · 28/10/2022 19:35

It’s probably because the tone of the ‘supportive’ posts is often so peculiar and out of sync. Some of the supporters seem to be armed with a litany of pre-prepared arguments, which are supplied in turn, as though they are consulting some sort of crib sheet. Many also try to encourage defamatory posts against other royals, almost as though they had a personal vendetta. Some spend hours daily on these threads - almost as though it were a full time job. And we know that Meghan and Harry are obsessed with criticism online, they have supported initiatives to shut down and censor online critics. All this and more contributes to the impression that their supporters are paid.

And after all, if you look at other threads critical of celebrities, you never see blind fanatics defending them, arguing every point in turn et etc. It’s a peculiar phenomenon.

Could you link to some of these threads you mention in your last paragraph?

I would be interested to see who these Celebrities are.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 29/10/2022 19:34

Wow. Just read this on Twitter. Did anyone here know that the News of the World obtained a DNA sample of Harry's hair when he was 18 and had it tested to see if he was James Hewitt's son?

Good grief. No wonder he loathes the press!!

www.thedailybeast.com/report-prince-harry-definitely-not-james-hewitts-son-according-to-dna-test

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Readinginthesun · 29/10/2022 19:44

MrsMaxDeWinter · 29/10/2022 19:34

Wow. Just read this on Twitter. Did anyone here know that the News of the World obtained a DNA sample of Harry's hair when he was 18 and had it tested to see if he was James Hewitt's son?

Good grief. No wonder he loathes the press!!

www.thedailybeast.com/report-prince-harry-definitely-not-james-hewitts-son-according-to-dna-test

I thought that story was well and truly debunked?

Coronateachingagain · 29/10/2022 19:47

@MrsMaxDeWinter you profess to know a lot about the CoE and if you did you would know that the coronation is mainly a religious event. Rituals. Traditions. Nothing different from the Pope being made the new Pope with all the rituals this entails or any other religion. Of course, with the title comes some responsibilities, a core concept for the institutions here in the UK.

You can criticise the rituals and traditions of a particular religion, I have no problem with that. But to attach significance or claim understanding, you really need to get all the elements in context - especially now in modern times. You need to understand England and the Brits a little more too. Which you may not be able to unless you study it properly, you spend some time in the country or you have family or cultural links.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 29/10/2022 20:32

Coronateachingagain · 29/10/2022 19:47

@MrsMaxDeWinter you profess to know a lot about the CoE and if you did you would know that the coronation is mainly a religious event. Rituals. Traditions. Nothing different from the Pope being made the new Pope with all the rituals this entails or any other religion. Of course, with the title comes some responsibilities, a core concept for the institutions here in the UK.

You can criticise the rituals and traditions of a particular religion, I have no problem with that. But to attach significance or claim understanding, you really need to get all the elements in context - especially now in modern times. You need to understand England and the Brits a little more too. Which you may not be able to unless you study it properly, you spend some time in the country or you have family or cultural links.

you profess to know a lot about the CoE and if you did you would know that the coronation is mainly a religious event

I do know that the coronation is a religious event. I was surprised to learn from you that actually the Church of England no longer believes that a King is anointed by God. So, according to you, it is a religious event but the adherents of that region no longer believe that it's a religious event. Curious logic.

You need to understand England and the Brits a little more too. Which you may not be able to unless you study it properly, you spend some time in the country or you have family or cultural links.

I studied at an Oxbridge college established by a member of your nobility, lived and worked in London, had a child educated at what you call a "public school". I visit family twice a year at least and work with UK publishers. So I'm good thanks.

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Coucous · 29/10/2022 20:50

It always gets so tense in these M+H forums. They need to change the title to M+H and other royals.

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