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Unpopular Opinion - William and Kate

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EdaYildiz · 13/10/2022 21:27

Don't come at me, I'm sharing my unpopular opinion because I want to know what you all think but just don't see a spark between William & Kate.

Loved them since the day they starting dating way back when they were undergrads at St Andrews but I just don't see their connection in pictures and it seems a little forced when she has her hand on his back or when they do hold hands.

I don't expect them to hold hands and snog because I know they're mostly photographed whilst they're working but he looks bored and she looks like she's trying her best.

Does anyone agree with me?

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Runnerinthenight · 23/06/2024 20:06

smilesy · 23/06/2024 19:46

I agree. I thought she looked overwhelmed by the crowds and the depth of feeling people obviously had for the late Queen. And it seemed to dawn on her that this was in fact a whole country and it’s history she was messing with and not a Disney fairy tale

It didn't last long though!

smilesy · 23/06/2024 20:55

Runnerinthenight · 23/06/2024 20:06

It didn't last long though!

No, but she doesn’t seem to want to come back to the UK 🤷‍♀️

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/06/2024 20:56

smilesy · 23/06/2024 20:55

No, but she doesn’t seem to want to come back to the UK 🤷‍♀️

We'll live.

smilesy · 23/06/2024 21:01

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/06/2024 20:56

We'll live.

Oh yes. I meant more that if she was genuinely overawed and uncomfortable with the reality of the RF hierarchy, she doesn’t feel comfortable in coming back

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/06/2024 21:05

smilesy · 23/06/2024 21:01

Oh yes. I meant more that if she was genuinely overawed and uncomfortable with the reality of the RF hierarchy, she doesn’t feel comfortable in coming back

I think she's realised that all the plans she and Haz had for shaking up the RF weren't going to happen and that she was up against something a lot bigger and more complex than she'd realised/

I had a colleague do what MM did. She was hired to do my job when I resigned, and before she'd even learned it she was deciding how much better she could do it and all the changes she'd make.

She lasted about as long as MM did.

EvangelistaSister · 23/06/2024 21:08

Runnerinthenight · 23/06/2024 20:06

It didn't last long though!

I’m just so curious about her psychology. She is a study in something. Certainly narcissism is part of it but such overweening self absorption and self belief despite all evidence to the contrary is really quite fascinating.

ThePoshUns · 23/06/2024 21:13

I agree @EvangelistaSister it is a fascinating study of human psychology

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/06/2024 21:17

EvangelistaSister · 23/06/2024 21:08

I’m just so curious about her psychology. She is a study in something. Certainly narcissism is part of it but such overweening self absorption and self belief despite all evidence to the contrary is really quite fascinating.

I think she has an indestructible self-belief and confidence, which served her well in her career. Everything was planned out and it worked. Then she married and for some reason (fascinating in itself) she did no research on what she was going into, when any common sense would have told her 'this is something completely out of your experience, take your time.' She treated it as if it were a new role - an audition, rehearsal and then she's the big star. Why should she research it? she's always aced it before.

I said at the time and I still reckon that the move to the UK was to pressure PH into making them official and she took absolutely no time to absorb what was expected of her. She also doesn't listen to advice (neither of them do); which is why they're lurching from one Big Idea to the next.

Runnerinthenight · 23/06/2024 21:37

smilesy · 23/06/2024 20:55

No, but she doesn’t seem to want to come back to the UK 🤷‍♀️

Can happily do without her but it's a bit sad for Harry, Charles and the children. He will regret that in time, and if she is the one standing in the way...!

I see her own dad is turning or has turned 80. I think her going NC with him speaks volumes about her character. He raised her on his own for years, he got her the best education. He was tempted by money to be rather more open than was wise, and this is what he gets. Well Meghan, the apple did not fall far from the tree, did it?

Runnerinthenight · 23/06/2024 21:38

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/06/2024 21:17

I think she has an indestructible self-belief and confidence, which served her well in her career. Everything was planned out and it worked. Then she married and for some reason (fascinating in itself) she did no research on what she was going into, when any common sense would have told her 'this is something completely out of your experience, take your time.' She treated it as if it were a new role - an audition, rehearsal and then she's the big star. Why should she research it? she's always aced it before.

I said at the time and I still reckon that the move to the UK was to pressure PH into making them official and she took absolutely no time to absorb what was expected of her. She also doesn't listen to advice (neither of them do); which is why they're lurching from one Big Idea to the next.

Wasn't it said that she threatened to split up with him if he didn't go public with the relationship?

Thedom · 23/06/2024 21:38

EvangelistaSister · 23/06/2024 21:08

I’m just so curious about her psychology. She is a study in something. Certainly narcissism is part of it but such overweening self absorption and self belief despite all evidence to the contrary is really quite fascinating.

I agree, it really is fascinating,

She treated it as if it were a new role - an audition, rehearsal and then she's the big star.

This is exactly how she comes across, she is inordinately and obviously so contrived, she seems to have no real sense of self.

Runnerinthenight · 23/06/2024 21:40

smilesy · 23/06/2024 21:01

Oh yes. I meant more that if she was genuinely overawed and uncomfortable with the reality of the RF hierarchy, she doesn’t feel comfortable in coming back

She doesn't feel comfortable coming back because she knows the reception she would get, after all she has done!

Rhaidimiddim · 23/06/2024 21:52

On that day the Old Queen died were car travelling, listening to the news as it broke. I heard reports that H&M had announced that they were going to do an "inspect the flowers" appearance. This then became a foursome, with W&C attending to prevent a H&M ( Netflux) coup. Hence C's pissed-offness.
Did anyone else hear or pick up.on this?

Rhaidimiddim · 23/06/2024 21:55

CoffeeCantata · 23/06/2024 16:24

I thought it very clearly showed Kate as the matriarch and the leader of the younger royals. Very much the boss.

Gosh - there's a lot to unpack in that video, isn't there? Yes, I agree about Catherine. She must have been so angry with M & H that she just decided to assert her seniority for once - all gloves were off. I wonder what the conversation in the car was like? There was no eye or any other kind of contact between the 2 couples, and I don't blame W and C for that. But all 4 behaved with dignity.

Meghan, just for once in her life, hangs back (quite correctly) and doesn't rush forward to greet people before the others. I think the Queen's funeral for her was very difficult. She is utterly lost when not the centre of attention, and of course she just couldn't be, on that occasion. Also, she must have been apprehensive about what kind of reception she and H would get from the public there - and I think some people did snub her.

I think Catherine's quieter, less showy and more thoughtful character will stand her in good stead in years to come.

Spare says there was no conversation in the car.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/06/2024 21:56

Rhaidimiddim · 23/06/2024 21:52

On that day the Old Queen died were car travelling, listening to the news as it broke. I heard reports that H&M had announced that they were going to do an "inspect the flowers" appearance. This then became a foursome, with W&C attending to prevent a H&M ( Netflux) coup. Hence C's pissed-offness.
Did anyone else hear or pick up.on this?

Edited

Dunno but it has the hallmarks of their MO at the time - briefing the press about what they're going to do and making decisions without reference to the rest of the family. The same happened when the family flew up to Balmoral.

Rhaidimiddim · 23/06/2024 21:57

coolmum123 · 23/06/2024 17:02

Kate was so done with M&H in that video 🤣🤣 she does not look at them at all and did not go near them. William was always on between lol.

She glares pointedly at Meghan forva few seconds. If you ever thought C was a softie...

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/06/2024 22:01

I don't think Kate's a softie. I think she has a core of pure stainless steel, like QEQM. And I think that like QEQM you cross her at your peril.

coolmum123 · 23/06/2024 22:36

smilesy · 23/06/2024 19:46

I agree. I thought she looked overwhelmed by the crowds and the depth of feeling people obviously had for the late Queen. And it seemed to dawn on her that this was in fact a whole country and it’s history she was messing with and not a Disney fairy tale

I don't think she has the depth of character to realise that.
She just doesn't come across as sincere.

upinaballoon · 23/06/2024 22:43

Those words 'depth of feeling people obviously had for the late Queen' have just reminded me of that long queue filing past the coffin and the way some of us became almost addicted to watching it.

EvangelistaSister · 23/06/2024 22:47

Runnerinthenight · 23/06/2024 21:37

Can happily do without her but it's a bit sad for Harry, Charles and the children. He will regret that in time, and if she is the one standing in the way...!

I see her own dad is turning or has turned 80. I think her going NC with him speaks volumes about her character. He raised her on his own for years, he got her the best education. He was tempted by money to be rather more open than was wise, and this is what he gets. Well Meghan, the apple did not fall far from the tree, did it?

She’s done exactly what she accuses him of, betraying her. Only she’s done it on a much much bigger scale. She’s betrayed and sold all of Harry’s family for her own gain. At least her father loves her. She certainly has no care or consideration at all for Harry’s family.

Runnerinthenight · 23/06/2024 23:18

EvangelistaSister · 23/06/2024 22:47

She’s done exactly what she accuses him of, betraying her. Only she’s done it on a much much bigger scale. She’s betrayed and sold all of Harry’s family for her own gain. At least her father loves her. She certainly has no care or consideration at all for Harry’s family.

I know, yet the total irony of it seems lost on her!

milveycrohn · 24/06/2024 11:08

It seems to me, as if part of the problem is that MM thought the UK was the same as in the US, but we have a very different history/customs/traditions, that I do not think she grasped at all.

JSMill · 24/06/2024 11:10

@EvangelistaSister I agree. I wonder what on earth makes her mind tick. Some of her behaviour is just bizarre.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 24/06/2024 11:37

She knew that kingship (or queenship) was not in the end about the palaces and the art and the jewels, it was about service; which was why she signed her Platinum Jubilee letter 'Your Servant, Elizabeth.'

I actually found that very moving, @MrsDanversGlidesAgain. Bearing in mind that she must have known her life was drawing to a close it was an insight - though there'd been others - into exactly how she saw her role

Another was the comment (I think it might have been the Lord Chamberlain) that this was a lady who didn't take herself too seriously, but who took her role very seriously indeed

Even while as a republican I oppose that role, it still leaves space for admiration for the way she carried it out ...

Maireas · 24/06/2024 11:41

@Puzzledandpissedoff what a lovely post. I agree with your points. I didn't know that was how she finally signed off, that's so touching.
To Elizabeth, it was about service, but she did have a good sense of humour - the James Bond skit and the Paddington sketch demonstrated that well!

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