Unpopular Opinion - William and Kate

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Don't come at me, I'm sharing my unpopular opinion because I want to know what you all think but just don't see a spark between William & Kate.

Loved them since the day they starting dating way back when they were undergrads at St Andrews but I just don't see their connection in pictures and it seems a little forced when she has her hand on his back or when they do hold hands.

I don't expect them to hold hands and snog because I know they're mostly photographed whilst they're working but he looks bored and she looks like she's trying her best.

Does anyone agree with me?

@ArcaneWireless brilliant post - my sentiments exactly.
Same posters preaching hate and lies.

Well Penny was there

But I guess that was just Philip and Charles and the old days when royals could do what they bloody well liked .

Williams marriage is an example to us all I'm sure

But on MN it is perfectly acceptable for men and women to be close , platonic friends!? According to threads it’s all about trust . PP and Penny were friends . She ( and her family) are friends of the RF .
I read that Rose’s husband has made it clear that they will sue if any untrue allegations are made .

Whatever happened to 'don't complain , don't explain'

I suppose it's easier to follow that motto when the serfs only had newspapers and the radio

There is lots of unfounded speculation on the Internet started by an unknown source.
Do you believe every bit of rubbish you read online.

Do you believe every bit of royal PR rubbish you are spoon fed?

Do you believe every bit of gossip you read on the internet? It's odd but when someone suggests Prince Harry doesn't look very happy, there is instantly an uproarious clamour, accusations of posters wishing the break up of a marriage and the hurt to the children.

Yet it's fine and dandy, however much evidence to the contrary, so say that William and Kate are unhappy, they are having affairs, they are miserable in each others company, they are living apart.

Have you got statistics on that ?

I think if folk are looking to a stranger to be their example of how to ‘do marriage’ then they have a problem.

I also wonder why they are quick to label people serfs. Is that how they feel? I don’t.

And no I don’t believe spoon fed PR. I’m just a decent person with the intelligence to see folk for the people they are and other folk for the agendas they have.

Fair play if they want that kind of bitter and miserable existence. I don’t.

@ArcaneWireless

You are very exercised by any criticism of W and K

And don't be ridiculous. You don't see anyone for who they are . You have formed your (unquestioning ) opinion on the same info tue rest of us have .

Oh and in case you've forgotten - the kings and queens of England claim they are anointed by God as head of the church so yes they are saying they are an example

You are mistaken. I just don’t like people spouting unfounded rumours about people they don’t know. Have you been in that position? Do you realise how damaging it is? I have and I can assure you it absolutely colours your opinion on people spreading poisonous rumours. I think they are the scum of the earth.

And not everyone is religious or belongs to the Church of England.

They may be the head of the church but they are still people. No-one is perfect. Look to your own doorstep before you lay filth at the step of another.

And I see a few folk on here for what they are. And they never make me change my opinion of them.

Same old nastiness. Same old snide comments. Same bitterness. Just different days. Rest assured I never have to question my opinion on that.

Filth??

Have you campaigned as hard re Andrew's activities , Mountbatten , Charles and Peter Ball, Saville ?

THAT is filth

Is that the subject matter of this thread?

No. No, it is not.

But you know that.

How convenient for you.

The answer is no then?

Saying what bad people do is always seen as worse by some than actually doing the bad thing.

Don’t answer for me dear. You don’t know me.

How convenient for you to derail a thread when you can’t go forward with your argument.

I have made comments on threads discussing those subjects. It isn’t for this thread.

I won’t be engaging with you further as it serves no purpose.

I have no wish to want to deal with such bitterness.

@ArcaneWireless

I'm not answering for you it was a rhetorical device .
My point is demonstrated

Think again.

The point is surely that none of us know for sure what the truth is do we? A version of the truth will come out in time but the entire Royal shebang is one large PR exercise isn't it? And I think the men in grey suits know that if Wills and Kate were to split, that would probably be the end.

On a personal level, I hope they are happy of course, and I like them and wouldn't ever wish a young family like that to break up. I just think we all need to sit down and have a collective think about why it is necessary to have this projection of the "perfect" family at the heart of our society? Why do we need it?

What this thread demonstrates is that some people desperately want to buy in to the romance of the televised weddings and the Queen's long marriage, and I don't know for sure of course but I think the reality is probably different to our perception. Their culture is different to ours. Aristocrats who are as rich as Croesus are probably some of the few people left in the uk who have the resources and the odd spare house in which to conduct a long running affair without being caught, and the obliging friends to cover it up. (Well, along with long distance lorry drivers and the military😀. )

And imho this fundamental deception is what led to the strong emotions over the whole Charles v Diana debacle. Not that the public were outraged by the affairs or infidelity, but the fact that the real situation was the inverse of what the giant Buckingham Palace PR machine was projecting. The public are invited to join in celebrating fairytale weddings and new births, but the shutters come down when there are disputes and affairs.

Personally I think it's all too anachronistic in 2022 and on a practical level it's virtually impossible to maintain the PR illusion of the "perfect" family in the day of mobile phones and paparazzi without the cracks showing. It also puts an impossible psychological strain on the people involved.

Time to end the charade I say! Let young children grow up away from the cameras. Let marriages flourish or flounder without press intrusion and impossible pressure and strain. We can still have wonderful pomp and ceremony thanks to our fantastic military forces and historic buildings. Let's release the RF from their goldfish bowls and establish a republic where enormous wealth and huge privilege at the heart of the nation are not held up to be all that is desirable and good.

[How on earth do you reconcile being as rich as Croesus and head of the Church of England anyway?]

@Mindthegap725
Thank you

You have clearly expressed exactly what the issues are
Very well said

Actually, a lot of people thought Charles and Diana were ill-matched from the start. But of course, I did not wish for them to divorce when there were children involved. In fact, although they separated it was only after the book and panorama interview that the Queen urged them to divorce, I believe.
I have never understood this need for famous people to air their 'dirty laundry' in public, so to speak. However, I always gave Diana a 'pass'. In her case after her parents divorced, her mother lost custody of the children to Earl Spencer, and I am sure that this was partly what motivated her to speak. That she may have thought the same could have happened to her, and she wanted to gain sympathy to avoid anything similar happening.
In this country there are rules regarding the publicity for the Royal children, and after the 'first day at school' shot, which is normally done with just one photographer and one video, (then shared under the Royal rota scheme), they are generally left alone. We have only seen the children at the public Royal events (platinum jubilee and Queen's funeral).

@milveycrohn We have seen George and Charlotte a lot more than that. There hs been quite a lot of coverage of them at various events.

Apart from Jubilee and funeral events , I don’t recall seeing much of The Wales children other than birthday photos and first day at school .