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Unpopular Opinion - William and Kate

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EdaYildiz · 13/10/2022 21:27

Don't come at me, I'm sharing my unpopular opinion because I want to know what you all think but just don't see a spark between William & Kate.

Loved them since the day they starting dating way back when they were undergrads at St Andrews but I just don't see their connection in pictures and it seems a little forced when she has her hand on his back or when they do hold hands.

I don't expect them to hold hands and snog because I know they're mostly photographed whilst they're working but he looks bored and she looks like she's trying her best.

Does anyone agree with me?

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milveycrohn · 16/10/2022 19:51

Personally, I think W&K seem fine to me. I really do not like grown adults over 40 holding hands all the time, especially when on official visits, so do not wish for overt public displays of affection.
Re Princess Margaret. At what point of her life was this day an example of?
I seem to remember in later years, she severely scalded her foot, and we last saw her in a wheelchair.

vera99 · 16/10/2022 21:23

milveycrohn · 16/10/2022 19:51

Personally, I think W&K seem fine to me. I really do not like grown adults over 40 holding hands all the time, especially when on official visits, so do not wish for overt public displays of affection.
Re Princess Margaret. At what point of her life was this day an example of?
I seem to remember in later years, she severely scalded her foot, and we last saw her in a wheelchair.

I don't know I found it on the #kkkate on Twitter. Not for the faint-hearted, it is a Meghan love fest. Ooops it is a hilarious spoof by Craig Brown imagining a day in her life!

www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Ma_am_Darling_99_Glimpses_of_Princess_Ma/SYY2DgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover

Lampzade · 17/10/2022 10:41

Thr truth is that we really don’t know what goes on in people’s marriages.
I wouldn’t assume that because William and Catherine do not hold hands that they are in an unhappy marriage . I also wouldn’t assume that because Harry and Meghan hold hands all the time that they will end up in the divorce courts.

Lampzade · 17/10/2022 10:46

Samcro · 14/10/2022 14:50

love the way posters have to get a H&M bash in.

That is the sad thing.
The thread was about the marriage of William and Kate. Yet posters made it all about the Sussexes.
It is almost as though some posters are willing the Sussexes marriage to fail.

antelopevalley · 17/10/2022 10:47

I agree we don't know.
We do know that Charles and Camilla look at each other with love and affection.
We know William always looks awkward and Kates's facial expressions usually look exaggerated.
William and Kate's expressions can be interpreted in many ways. Maybe William hates being in front of photographers and Kate knows this. Maybe their marriage is bad. Maybe William photographs badly. We don't actually know.

Serenster · 17/10/2022 10:50

We know William always looks awkward and Kates's facial expressions usually look exaggerated.

“Always” and “usually”? In your prejudiced mind, perhaps.

antelopevalley · 17/10/2022 10:53

@Serenster It is what I see. There were photos of him with his helicopter flying buddies where he looked relaxed, but generally in front of the camera he has an expression that could be described as awkward or irritable.

ArcaneWireless · 17/10/2022 11:05

Always looking at anything that fuels the personal fire.

Usually missing everything that mostly everyone else sees.

Maybe if we don’t actually know the state of someone’s marriage or how someone is actually feeling just from their face then we shouldn’t comment on it negatively if we readily admit we know fuck all.

It is nasty and makes some sort look as though they have an agenda.

That is what I see.

And that goes for those who have a pop at other two’s marriage as well.

antelopevalley · 17/10/2022 11:22

They are celebrities who make their money from the taxpayers. That means they have to make themselves public. They have to televise family events like weddings, publish details of the birth of new children.
You don't get to say that the public should only care about the aspects of your private life you want them to care about and ignore the rest. It is not how celebrity works.

Kellie45 · 17/10/2022 12:33

antelopevalley · 17/10/2022 11:22

They are celebrities who make their money from the taxpayers. That means they have to make themselves public. They have to televise family events like weddings, publish details of the birth of new children.
You don't get to say that the public should only care about the aspects of your private life you want them to care about and ignore the rest. It is not how celebrity works.

But then you don’t say the relationship is going to pot because they are not all over each other in public like some loony gossip columnist thinks they should be.

ArcaneWireless · 17/10/2022 12:34

They do not have to be public 24/7. You don’t get to decide that.

What next? Decide they are miserable and not affectionate merely by the look on their face so you want to see them on the nest? Stand in the lav to see if constipation is causing a pained expression? Watch them when they are sleeping to see if they are sleeping well enough to stop them looking irritable?

And celebrities choose to put themselves in the public eye. Royals have to suck it up in the main.

But celebrities need private time too - regardless of how much Joe public pays for their lifestyle.

Because that is how it works - if you are a decent human being.

Me? My taxpayers contribution can go for royal private time.

I could put my opinion of some on here and that would be fair game by the same argument. Public forum and all that jazz.

But whenever some on here do that, those not liking the same focus get the critical posts deleted.

Funny that.

Croque · 17/10/2022 12:49

Apparently, you have to be constantly searching for those cameras like a bug eyed nebbish with PDA at the ready at all times, in order to earn the 'happily married' stamp of approval.

antelopevalley · 17/10/2022 12:59

You miss the point. The Royals get lots of private time on their large estates and mansions.
But they make public appearances in return for taxpayers money. When they make public appearances they will be judged. Some of those judgements will be positive and some negative, it is the nature of celebrity.

And they can leave the Royal Family if they want. Edward did and was thereafter fairly ignored by the press.

ArcaneWireless · 17/10/2022 13:00

I just feel on these threads sometimes that folk create threads/posts that have more than a whiff of the Angie McMurrays about them. And I have more than a sneaking suspicion that that is how it works.

Drop a little shite bomb in to try to disparage one couple or encourage others to come in and disparage someone else in retaliation, dog whistle stylee.

Shame when there could be really interesting conversations to be had.

But as my dear old nan used to say ‘ye cannae polish shite’

Not even if you try and clart it in the glitter of ground up tiaras and tie a velvet bow of faux concern around it.

It is still the same shite. Just a different day.

antelopevalley · 17/10/2022 13:00

Croque · 17/10/2022 12:49

Apparently, you have to be constantly searching for those cameras like a bug eyed nebbish with PDA at the ready at all times, in order to earn the 'happily married' stamp of approval.

Funny how Charles and Camilla manage to look affectionate and in love with PDAs then.

antelopevalley · 17/10/2022 13:00

without

ArcaneWireless · 17/10/2022 13:02

No point missed.

The glitter and bow has been spotted though.

Maireas · 18/10/2022 17:06

antelopevalley · 17/10/2022 12:59

You miss the point. The Royals get lots of private time on their large estates and mansions.
But they make public appearances in return for taxpayers money. When they make public appearances they will be judged. Some of those judgements will be positive and some negative, it is the nature of celebrity.

And they can leave the Royal Family if they want. Edward did and was thereafter fairly ignored by the press.

? Edward hasn't left the Royal Family?

Maireas · 18/10/2022 17:15

ArcaneWireless · 17/10/2022 13:00

I just feel on these threads sometimes that folk create threads/posts that have more than a whiff of the Angie McMurrays about them. And I have more than a sneaking suspicion that that is how it works.

Drop a little shite bomb in to try to disparage one couple or encourage others to come in and disparage someone else in retaliation, dog whistle stylee.

Shame when there could be really interesting conversations to be had.

But as my dear old nan used to say ‘ye cannae polish shite’

Not even if you try and clart it in the glitter of ground up tiaras and tie a velvet bow of faux concern around it.

It is still the same shite. Just a different day.

I agree with you, Arcane.
Your nan was the voice of wisdom!

JanetSally · 20/10/2022 20:26

antelopevalley · 17/10/2022 10:47

I agree we don't know.
We do know that Charles and Camilla look at each other with love and affection.
We know William always looks awkward and Kates's facial expressions usually look exaggerated.
William and Kate's expressions can be interpreted in many ways. Maybe William hates being in front of photographers and Kate knows this. Maybe their marriage is bad. Maybe William photographs badly. We don't actually know.

Perhaps you could speak for yourself rather than assuming 'we' all share your opinion.

diffandproud · 22/10/2022 07:46

I agree,but I also think that William is becoming more unlikeable as he ages. He is not relatable for a guy of his age. Everything he does and says seems so staged and fake. Kate is too guarded..unlike Diana who very much wore her heart on her sleeve

JanetSally · 22/10/2022 08:33

They're both dignified in public and neither wears their heart on their sleeve. To me they seem to have a healthy boundary between their official and their private lives.

J0yxPeace · 22/10/2022 08:37

In that 'job' you cannot wear your heart on your sleeve. It's one thing to be dragged for being waity katie but if you're criticised for your thoughts then that would lead naturally to being as guarded as you possibly can be. The Queen was the master. She never revealed her opinions and she was admired for that and her ability to never reveal her opinions protected her. I think Kate is smart enough to see that never having an opinion that can be 'pinned' to you is a form of protection.

notanotheroneagain · 23/10/2022 18:13

Not much to say about KM and William as they leave me un-inspired.

So have no idea about their relationship.

What I will say is that the 'they should not hold hands at work' or ' they have been married for so many years' excuses are all BS.

They make the likes of Obamas, Macrons, Trudeaus, Bidens etc. all look giddy in love by comparison. All been married forever, and dealing with way more serious issues than the Cambridges could ever shake a stick at.

Ohnonevermind · 23/10/2022 18:28

@notanotheroneagain

Can I ask why you think it’s appropriate that politicians and royals hold hands in a professional capacity at events like G20.

i’ve posted on this a number of times, as I honestly don’t understand why this is a thing. I blame American presidents for it, perhaps to make them seem trustworthy and family men, although a lot of them seemed unable to keep it in their pants so rather a pointless exercise

funerals etc, we all take comfort from our loved ones, but the G20 etc type of events, it would be like Tim Cook bringing his wife on stage for a snog at the Apple events.

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