Coronation on the 6th May

[ajandjjmum]

Presumably as this will coincide with the May Day bank holiday week? Going to be a busy time in London.

We got our first ever colour telly in time for that wedding, and the neighbours came round to watch in colour!

I'd forgotten it was November, because I do remember it was a sunny day (and that I wasn't at school)

Makes perfect sense to me. If you believe the monarch is anointed by God (I don’t, the whole thing is bullshit, but I think the Queen did)then of course you carry out your God-given duties until death.

So incredibly tone deaf holding this event.

Meh, if we lived in a Republic there’d be an inauguration every five years or so, cost of living crisis or not. And given it’s been 70 years since the last coronation, it will average out at a fairly reasonable cost in comparison.

Of course it is tone deaf !

What a ridiculous attempt at an argument @Serenster !

A president would have an inauguration - IF there is a president .

Chuck Windsor is costing the hard pressed people millions for his totally unnecessary magic hat day
He already declared himself king .
There is no state need for a coronation - it's a medieval floor show once intended to blind the uneducated to the lie before them - that any man is a 'king'

It will back fire .
It is already .

On a completely separate note I just checked out London hotel prices for 5 and 6 May; no intention of going but I was just interested and expecting to see insane prices

Instead there are passably decent rooms available for £50 and up - admittedly a short tube ride from the centre, but acceptable all the same if all someone wants is a bed and no frills

Which makes me wonder what sort of crowd numbers they're expecting ...

"magic hat day" ... "medieval floor show"

I just LOVE those, Novella ... in fact I love them so much I may just pinch them

When I was looking, everywhere seemed to be sold out!!!

When I was looking, everywhere seemed to be sold out!!!

That's what I expected, mum2jakie, but honestly it's not - at least not on Booking.com

Here you go; 1332 properties found, and that's for 2 nights arriving on the 5th and leaving on the 7th:

www.booking.com/searchresults.html?label=gen173nr-1FCAEoggI46AdIM1gEaFCIAQGYATG4ARfIAQzYAQHoAQH4AQKIAgGoAgO4Aoj5o58GwAIB0gIkODBiMTc3OGItMmU2Mi00ZjY4LTg4NTctOGExNmE0OWM5MTM32AIF4AIB&aid=304142&ss=London&ssne=London&ssne_untouched=London&efdco=1&lang=en-us&sb=1&src_elem=sb&dest_id=-2601889&dest_type=city&checkin=2023-05-05&checkout=2023-05-07&group_adults=2&no_rooms=1&group_children=0&sb_travel_purpose=leisure&order=price

@Puzzledandpissedoff
😂. I'm sure I read 'magic hat day' somewhere else though

Fair enough, Novella, but I'll still pinch it

@Novella4

a president needs an election. A presidential term doesn’t necessarily fall the same day as a general or local election so would need a separate election with all those costs every 5/7 years

Elections aren’t cheap, you can find the costs online on some of the government, then they retire after 1/2 terms and there are pension costs associated.

At least ‘chuck’ will be grateful and won’t throw a strop afterwards on Oprah saying he had a secret coronation in his back garden three days before just for him as he didn’t want a big coronation

😆😆😆

If you believe in the Divine Right, you are over 300 years out of date!!

Abolished 1688

I think that the late Queen may have believed that she had been chosen by God to be Queen in the same way that some people believe that they are chosen or "called" to a particular vocation. I don't know if Charles thinks that or not, but that's not the same thing as the Divine Right of Kings as ascribed to by the pre-William and Mary Stuarts and their predecessors, who believed that God ordained that the monarch's will was absolute and not subject to any other authority. 1688 definitely put paid to that notion.

A president will not cost 350 000 000 a year.

You are on a loser trying a cost argument , OF COURSE 'royals' cost much much more and for what? Whichever dullard is up next , never mind protecting the likes of Andrew . AND the fact that whoever is next cannot be removed and cannot be prosecuted. Charles could literally stab someone and walk away - police can't touch him

How very medieval .

So many arguments explaining why the UK monarchy is past its sell by date -
they've all been repeated here .

There is also the principle involved . Didn't Rosa Luxembourg say ' better an expensive republic than a cheap monarchy ' . Im paraphrasing .

Plus there is no law that says you must have a head of state .
There any number of free solutions to that if a head of state was wanted .

The COE will be disestablished , the House of Lords will be reformed , the royals will be pushed away from our democracy. It will happen

Meanwhile the MSM are peddling propaganda but most people under 40 don't get their information that way .
The police are removing people from small crowds for simply holding up a blank piece of paper ( the international symbol of suppression of free expression)

I predict the 'royals' will reduce appearances and say they are 'working' in a different way as protest will grow and more people will wake up the fact that a monarchy that needs to suppress peaceful dissent is finished

@SenecaFallsRedux
No one believes they are appointed by God - it's all theatre and it fools some people

@Novella4

can you please explain where the number 350m per year has come from with a link.

Some people on here clearly don’t understand journalistic standards adopted by papers of record. I’ll stick to that rather than some random off the internet who says things you agree with

i’ve heard these arguments before about MSM from supporters of q anon, and see no difference here

Here you are

https://www.republic.org.uk/thetrueecostoffthe_royals

No doubt you will reject this as it is from the republic website

If so , look up Norman Baker ' and what do you do ?' -
he was a former privy councillor, who became a republican after learning more about the 'royals

@Novella4

how you you think a president gets ‘elected’

Do you agree with the US model where they get private financing from lobbyists or a budgeted spend based on expenses

Looking at the article it looks at the agreed costs under a 100m and then adds on met costs for royal protection on royal visits and for international guests - both of these costs would happen under a president (unless you expect the new president to drive himself to gigs and collect international guests from the airport too)

the income from the duchys is not in the hundreds of millions, so clearly this article is a heap of rubbish.

I hope you don’t consider that ‘journalism’

This is a report showing the costs of the 2015 election

this is a real audited document showing election costs of 114m every 5/7 years - it kind of dwarves the coronation costs but I can’t wait to see what your source above costs them at

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/715422/The_Costs_of_the_2015_UK_Parliamentary_General_Election.pdf

Thanks. I’m coming in from Canada so have to book my flight asap. I have been hearing all sorts of answers but mostly the week before. For other royal events, have they tended to camp out a week before or mostly just a day or two? Trying to minimize the camping but I want a good spot haha