Removing E:R from Harry’s Uniform

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I am certainly not one of H&M’s fans but I think that for someone to actually remove the ER initials from his military uniform for the vigil was beyond petty.

The decision was made to allow him to wear a military uniform, fine, Andrew was also given permission but to take the time and trouble to remove the Queen’s initials from the epaulettes was, I think, really childish. I know he has chosen to not be a working Royal but the initals were left on Andrew’s epaulettes so why were Harry’s removed?

Apart from anything else, this will just add grist to the mill of H&M’s litany of complaints but for once, I think they’d be justified in being upset by this.

Expect I’ll be flamed for this and there are many more important things going on in the world but I do think this was a snotty thing to do to Harry.

So you’re reading racist comments? I have never seen such comments and yes much of the discussion is pretty balanced .

You didn’t understand the statement did you

It was the statement of a stroppy, spoiled child.

For a man apparently so happy with his new life Harry doesn’t seem it. He is a glowering grump

Where is the statement he made.?

Not surprised he’s grumpy - he’s from a toxic dysfunctional family who would be not be out of place on the stately homes thread - except as I’ve said before they actually live in them.

Who he has chosen to move thousands of miles away. He has two lovely children, a beautiful wife, great house, money, interesting things to be involved with and he’s still grumpy.

If he doesn’t get the correct help for his issues, he’s likely going to have a dysfunctional family all of his own. Sad but true.

Surely it’s because ER is no longer the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces, but there hasn’t been time (or it would seem crass) to issue CR insignia so soon. I wouldn’t read too much into it beyond that.

As many posters on here would attest family still affects you even when you’ve distanced yourself. Particularly when they’re world famous and in the media on a daily basis. How could it be otherwise?

That goes for half this forum if not humanity.

I find all this unbelievably petty and I've said before, this man was born into the this. The Truman show and hasn't he paid his dues?
He's been wheeled out, photograped.... since literally the day. He. Was. Born.

But he can't wear the er?? Really??

Really!! But Andrew sex pest... shagger of trafficed girls can??

Right or wrong there is even footage of Andrew hand's on his daughter.

I can't believe the palace would even dare to lump these two together!! It's beyond all bounds of human decency.

And the invite around this evening?? Surely they are a family holding this event??

But others are fine. Its a bit much calling them that. Some have issues but like all families most members are fine and well adjusted.

I don’t think anyone really believes it’s not a dysfunctional family do they? Certainly no-one I know.

I can't believe the palace would even dare to lump these two together!! It's beyond all bounds of human decency.

They are lumped together in the group called ‘non working royals’ because that’s what they are.

Depends on your definition. Certainly Charles and Diana, Andrew...now Harry. Margaret in the past maybe. Not sure any others have shown anything but pretty regular people really. How the institution operates an br very ruthless.

This episode is a good example of why appeasement is a bad idea.

Frankly the RF shouldn't have backed down from the decision that neither Andrew or Harry would not be allowed to wear uniform.

One is utterly disgraced (and rightfully loathed) and the other made a decision to pursue a different life, free from the shackles and protocol of royal life.

Actions have consequences.

No.

One has disgraced the family and crown.

The other one just wanted to leave.

Yes, one out of necessity and one out of choice but both are non working royals.

Which is exactly what I said....so why "no".

Either way, both make choices/decisions that mean they are no longer working members of the RF.

In addition you might want to recall how Harry was quite happy to ditch a long standing military engagement to attend the Lion King Premier and tout for business. Priorities eh???

Honestly the lengths some posters go to to validate really petty behaviour from H&M is beyond me (and to be clear also petty behaviour by other members of RF also).

I don't hate them, I can understand them wanting a different life, but it doesn't mean I agree with everything they have done to achieve that or every perceived slight they claim.

How do you know he was well liked or didn't appear like his friendship group?

Interesting that you're stating claims as facts, some of which have been disagreed with by several posters here from the experiences of people we knew who were at Eton with the princes.

You claimed Harry was more "integrated" than William at Eton socially; ironically I've just found this article where someone who was Eton with them used that exact wording but said it was William who was more integrated, not Harry. And that Harry struggled more. Which is what the rest of us were saying.

Here's the quote, it's from an article in The Cut in 2018 about what it was like to go to Eton alongside Harry and William. The Cut of course being who Meghan was the cover girl (woman) for fairly recently.

“William was very integrated. There’s this sort of society in your top year where if you’re kind of popular or beloved by teachers and boys alike you get voted into the Eton society, which is known as ‘Pop,’ and you got to choose your own waistcoat and wear special trousers. William was a Pop so he was like a homecoming-king type, but Harry wasn’t — I think Harry probably had it harder finding his way. The attitude towards them was very matter of fact. The only thing that would really give it away is everyone gets a school calendar and list of all the boys in school, called Fixtures, and it’s this 300-page green booklet that tells you who all the boys are. If you were a lord you’d have a Mister before your name. The princes were HRH. It was funny though because no one gave a shit. I think both William and Harry were just called ‘Wales,’ literally that was what everyone else called them.” — Jim

www.thecut.com/2018/05/what-was-it-like-to-go-to-school-with-prince-harry.html

He was the one who wanted to wear a uniform he wasn't entitled to wear!

Like Donald Trump or Joe Biden you mean?

I don't think anyone who has actually met him would agree with you.

"So Harry was supposed to shave because he wore a uniform, under special dispensation mind you, for 30 minutes"

Yes. That's exactly what he was supposed to do. If he wanted to wear uniform he should have worn it properly.

"the uniforms should all read CR"
No they shouldn't. The EIIR shoulder titles indicate that the wearer is a personal Aide de Camp to Queen Elizabeth II. They'll all come off on Tuesday morning, when the late Queen's need of aides de camp ends. The King's AdCs, whoever they are (not Harry), will wear CIIIR shoulder titles.