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People losing their minds!!

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vroom321 · 15/09/2022 09:33

I've put the news on today for the first time since Friday. Had constant twitter / news notifications so heard what's happening.

This morning I've heard people say they saw the queen as a second grandmother. They are as upset as they would be if they lost their mum.

People queuing during their night with their primary age kids.

Just seems a bit mad no?

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MarshaBradyo · 15/09/2022 11:28

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/09/2022 11:22

All the parading the coffin from pillar to post seems so undignified

I have been thinking that for a few days about the coffin being lugged around from pillar to post. And there are people calling for the cortege to Windsor to be longer, the queen should have come from Scotland by train...I know it was what the queen planned but it's not dignified.

I don’t find this - the procession which is the movement has been grand and majestic

Yesterday was quite moving and very well done. I can’t really find fault with it

Again those who don’t care, I understand, there’s no obligation to care or react

SweetFannyAdamsDog · 15/09/2022 11:28

I've mostly avoided it as I don't watch the news and don't do Twitter and don't always read a paper every day. My Facebook is fairly quiet on the subject with the odd photo of the Queen.

But I looked at the BBC yesterday and yes, it all seems a bit mad, quite agree with the OP. We've lost our collective minds!

I get the historical significance, I respected The Queen and admired her. But queue to see her coffin? Go to London? Watch hours and hours of fawning coverage? Read miles of drivel about how loved she was? Nope, not interested.

sunglassesonthetable · 15/09/2022 11:29

It's not sarcasm at all. Obviously some people will identify with the wailers.

Is that something to with Bob Marley?

That's also sarcasm.

worriedniece · 15/09/2022 11:29

This is the last time I imagine. I don't think many people will be bothered by Charles. He's not liked. The queen has been a constant for many and I suppose we were in denial that she would one day die. Jubilations were enjoyed earlier this year and lots of people loved street parties and all things royal. She is from a bygone age and it allowed us to live in the past a little.

MarshaBradyo · 15/09/2022 11:30

FourTeaFallOut · 15/09/2022 11:18

So do the MN royalists feel like the media is representing your grief at the loss of the Queen fairly when they pick out those from the crowd who are bereft at her loss, feeling as though they have lost a member of their own family?

Or do you feel unfairly represented, as though your stoic and quiet grief has been ignored in favour of a more newsworthy grief?

I don’t really identify with the notion of being a royalist but then I’m not a republican, handy if there was another concept in between the two.

But this does t bother me, there are often extremes in society and they don’t represent me or anyone else imo just themselves

MarshaBradyo · 15/09/2022 11:30

Doesn’t

SoupDragon · 15/09/2022 11:32

Imo the coffin should have been moved from Balmoral to Buckingham Palace then there left until the funeral. All the parading the coffin from pillar to post seems so undignified.

It''s hardly been paraded from pillar to post has it? They didn't take it on a tour of the cities of the UK. It stopped in Edinburgh before being flown to London as that was a natural point to pause to give Scottish people a chance to pay their respects if they wanted.

I'm not sure how you can describe the procession from Buckingham Palace to
Westminster "undignified" (or any of the parts of the journey for that matter).

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/09/2022 11:33

FourTeaFallOut · 15/09/2022 11:27

It's not sarcasm at all. Obviously some people will identify with the wailers.

In that case I apologise. I don't watch interviews with the public and TBH, I don't feel grief for HM - although the first bars of the funeral march yesterday were a bit of a tearful moment. My feeling is that something and someone very significant has passed out of British life, but the queen lived a very long life, died doing the job she loved and passed presumably without much pain - something I'm sure we'd all like.

lemmein · 15/09/2022 11:34

theworldhas · 15/09/2022 11:00

The amount of media exposure it’s being given - and also the nature of it - clearly meets any definition of propaganda/conditioning.
The Queen dying is a notable event, it’s big news, but for it to be given the same sort of coverage as, say, the attack on the Twin Towers is absurd.
Who gains from it? Well the Royals for one obviously. Beyond that anyone and everyone who benefits from status quo of mass public deference to unearned /unjust authority and an unfair/unjust social system - be it in the acceptance of hereditary Lords or acceptance of zero hour contracts and food banks in supposedly one of the 10 richest countries on the planet.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 agreed!

I think the infantilising of the Queen is weird too -everyone talking like she was a sweet old lady, and everyone's 'nan' who loved Paddington; ignoring the fact that she was one of the richest, most powerful women in the world (who reportedly paid off her son's accuser!)

If I was the Queen I'd be really pissed that I'd spent 96 years being disciplined and serious but after a 60 second skit people remember me as Paddington's best mate Hmm

Anon778833 · 15/09/2022 11:35

smilesy · 15/09/2022 09:42

No worse than when Diana died. Which was really over the top 🤷‍♀️

I disagree - I think it’s a lot worse than when Diana died (and that was bad enough).

sunglassesonthetable · 15/09/2022 11:36

If I was the Queen I'd be really pissed that I'd spent 96 years being disciplined and serious but after a 60 second skit people remember me as Paddington's best mate

You really need to get off FBook!

TimBoothseyes · 15/09/2022 11:37

Pinkpeony2 · 15/09/2022 11:23

It’s not just the queen (the lady) dying though is it? She was an incredible queen and it’s sad she had gone. But it’s far more significant than that.
Kids learn in schools about past monarchs. This country is steeped in royalty, castles, landed gentry property. You can go 100 paces without bumping into something historically fascinating- usually relating back to a past monarch. They are all in the history books with more and more written and understood not only about the monarch as a person, but society generally as a whole under their rein as the century’s have passed.
This is huge from a historical point of view. Absolutely huge. Even if you don’t agree in the slightest with the idea of monarchy, even if you disliked the queen, I’m afraid living in this country it’s all around you in the very fabric of how we live today. Much of the physicalities of this country and cultural norms have been brought about because of past monarchy’s - rightly or wrongly.

We know it's huge.....we don't need constant footage of a coffin to re-iterate that. When the old king died, do you think the cinemas were open 24 hours a day showing constant newsreels of people crying, filling past his coffin etc? ? No, yet everyone knew what a momentous occasion it was. Every royalist has said how dignified the Queen was in life....it's a shame people can't behave with the same dignity now she's dead rather than the grief vampires many (including the media), have become.

antelopevalley · 15/09/2022 11:38

Agree @TimBoothseyes

lemmein · 15/09/2022 11:39

sunglassesonthetable · 15/09/2022 11:36

If I was the Queen I'd be really pissed that I'd spent 96 years being disciplined and serious but after a 60 second skit people remember me as Paddington's best mate

You really need to get off FBook!

Weird comment. I don't go on FB Confused

sunglassesonthetable · 15/09/2022 11:42

Weird comment. I don't go on FB

Excellent 👍🏻

Carrotzen · 15/09/2022 14:48

Is it huge from a historical perspective? Realistically she was going to die in the next couple of years it's not a shock end to her reign. In the big scheme of history I wouldn't argue her death is particularly significant. It's not an event we often learn about for other monarchs. It's the end of the longest reign likely of a British monarchy ever, which adds to it's significance, but we knew she had the longest reign.

Her reign you could argue is significant, if you define history by monarchy, but I wouldnt agree that in the days of the Internet and globalisation that the british monarchy is as big culturally and historically as previously.

And okay, we can acknowledge its a significant event but I'm not sure that entitles the level of performative grief being shown. Or even 'stoic, stiff upper lip' grief. I don't know, I knew she would die soon. I'm not shocked, I won't miss her. She had very little impact on my life day to day. I feel we can pay respects without grieving for someone we didn't know

smilesy · 15/09/2022 15:06

I disagree - I think it’s a lot worse than when Diana died (and that was bad enough).

I haven’t seen the mass hysteria and wailing though. Its bound to be on a bigger scale as a n event as it is for the Queen. Diana might not have had such a big funeral if it wasn’t for the public appetite for it. I agree with pp who say that people are entitled to queue to see the coffin / pay their respects at processions etc if that’s what they want and it is important to them. Can’t say it would be my idea of how to spend my time but it doesn’t bother me if others do it.

Rainbunny · 15/09/2022 15:25

I think it was worse when Diana died. I was overses at the time and seeing the national emotional breakdown that seem to happen from afar made me a bit embarrassed to be British.

I think it's a bit more more appropriate regarding the Queen, she ruled for so long. I learned today that 9 out of every ten people in the world was born during her reign. Quite something!

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vroom321 · 15/09/2022 15:31

No I do think it's sad and I will be watching the funeral.

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vroom321 · 15/09/2022 15:33

I said primary age children not adults.

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vroom321 · 15/09/2022 15:35

Did I spell losing wrong 🫢

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vroom321 · 15/09/2022 15:35

I'm dyslexic sorry 😂😂

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Grandeur · 15/09/2022 15:38

vroom321 · 15/09/2022 15:35

Did I spell losing wrong 🫢

No 😂

gogohmm · 15/09/2022 15:39

I agree op. It's almost like competitive mourning. I'm organising a local service of remembrance, I'm not against respectfully honouring her but flying from overseas to stand in line? Then there's the clapping and cheering Hmm

TooHot2022 · 15/09/2022 15:43

I did say to DH that I wish everyone who had left flowers had just left a handwritten note or card instead and given £10/£15 to a food bank charity instead!