Republicans are getting arrested

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I find it ridiculous that the media mocks North Korea for forcing its citizens to mourn their leaders death, yet we are being made to do the same.

To top it off, there have been numerous arrests of people protesting the monarchy - which is perfectly within their right to do so, especially if you believe in democracy and only having elected leaders.

amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/12/republican-britain-why-are-people-getting-arrested

I liked and respected the Queen, but don't like the rest of the royal family and find the idea that they have the "divine" right to rule frankly ridiculous in this day and age. What is Britain becoming when people don't have the free speech to protest about it?!

Exactly.

We see what happens in North Korea. They have to declare their total loyalty and admiration and love for their despot Leader. If they even frown, they are thrown into jail.

We are a free nation. We should be able to express a view. Shouting during a funeral cortege is not right. But walking in London with a non obscene sign should be allowed.

I wish there was a like button!

wouldloveanother couldn’t disagree more, what an egocentric and selfish perspective to have on life

Similarly these signs etc at the time of the deceased monarch passing by is of course offensive to those who are mourning, at a different time and place they are not

As has been said a million times, a deceased monarch was not passing by. This was a London street

Why do people ignore this?

Yes there is…protest outside Parliament. Any day you want to. Parliament is the only power in the country, the only ones who can abolish the monarchy. The royal family can’t do it, the public and officials mourning with them or participating in the ceremonies to instate the new king can’t do it. Only Parliament can do it, go protest to them. Anyone protesting at the funeral processions, lying in state, King Charles ceremonies are quite literally barking at the wrong tree. You can’t blame the tree for not wanting to hear or see it.

I would be really interested to know what impact the ‘man surrounded by police for having a blank piece of paper’ (though I would suggest people watch the video as it’s not entirely how it presented here) or a woman stood in a random street with the sign, wanted to achieve.

"It’s more that the football association as employers of the football players don’t want to force the football players to work when they might want to go to the funeral. Football players are people too, they’re not just there for your entertainment."

Lol football was cancelled over the weekend. The average worker barely gets a day or two off if their own mother dies for bereavement, it's ridiculous that mourning someone we don't know personally is taking precedence.

Schools closing even though lots of parents have do work, with no thought as to the extra childcare costs we now have to pay when childcare is already crippling.

I find it ludicrous is in that a society that generally dislikes rich people and inequality, the royal family is put on a pedestal in a way that it is.

Out of interest, are we meant to accept all of this for Charles when he won't have given a lifetime of service to the public?

Same thing that any protest seeks to achieve.

To express your dissent.

To draw attention to an issue.

I have to admit, I didn’t see Andrew demand to do anything. Obviously, you were privvy to some private conversations I wasn’t.

I thought he joined his brother and sister in an organised procession. Didn’t realise he demanded it to happen or to be included.

Who did he make these demands of?

I can see the protesters being absolutely battered if they dare to try this on Monday. Hopefully the police will get to them before the public does...

The guy with the blank sheet of paper is a human rights barrister so I think he wanted to test what happened given the bullshit coming out of Scotland and the Met obligingly acted like twats (no surprise there, the Met are usually on the worng side).

The woman holding up the sign saying 'Not my King' wanted to express quietly that she did not view Charles to be her King.

But it doesn’t. Not there. Who will see it, where it makes a difference?

Let’s be honest, there’s an actual reason those places were picked.

A blank piece of paper shows dissent? So which is it, just blank piece or not?

If it’s just a blank piece of paper, then it’s not showing anything.

and it’s not drawing attention to the issue, cause it’s blank?

It is pathetic. I am sure the barrister's reputation will not have improved by protesting at the Queen's funeral a few days after she died. Most people will rightly decide he is disrespectful and deplorable.

He told them he intended to write on it.

So, he wasn’t just testing. He also doesn’t have a human right to not be spoken to by the police.

So again, the woman wanted to express that, but why there and then when it would make no difference at all. Why did she feel the need to express her opinion, right there to those people at that time?

Total disgrace. I'm a republican and feel like my freedom of speech has vanished overnight.

We did for Princess Diana. And actually King Charles III has given a lifetime of service to the public while he was Prince of Wales, just in roles other than as monarch.

And, I believe, this is part of what the police are trying to achieve.

With huge amounts of people they are trying to head off any big incidents.

It may seem like overkill.

But I can bet if she came back in a few weeks with that sign, the police wouldn’t care.

People are also forgetting that members of the public may have kept complaining (wether you agree or not) to the police m, so again they are trying to head off something getting out of hand.

I'm a republican there's a time and a place for it. It will come we need the national mourning period and the funeral to finish. It's not respectful right now to heckle in such a sensitive time.

Football is clearly cancelled because there are not enough police to cover the funeral events and the football crowds. Other sports with less of a reputation for poor crowd behaviour are still on. My sport has national championships next weekend, still on.

No idea why grassroots football was cancelled last weekend - presumably to maintain the fiction that it is respect rather than lack of police availability... Plenty of non policed amateur events were happening!

Yes, mostly the police are trying to keep these unpopular protestors safe from the angry mob they incite with their behaviour. The police are protecting them, not squashing their “freedom of speech”.

I can see the protesters being absolutely battered if they dare to try this on Monday. Hopefully the police will get to them before the public does... The fact that there will be lots of the type of people who would 'batter' someone at these events is always a concern. It would be embarrassing if one quiet woman with a sign was battered by the monarchists. The two who tried to shove/twat the shouting person did not look like a PR person's first choice for global news coverage.

You get this a lot - people pretend to care about 'dignity' but when it comes to it they will punch someone for not thinking exactly as they do, or happily watch someone else do it.

I think our time is on its way , King Charles won't be anywhere near as popular as his mother. How does he top a 70 year reign ?

The protesters are causing a public nuisance at public mourning events. They are being deliberately provocative.

I think in some cases they are being removed for their own safety.

This.

I support legal protest, and I'm not sure I'm bothered about keeping the Royal family now the Queen has passed, but there's a time and a place, and this isn't it. Those protesting intend to offend so they get arrested and moved on.

Picketing funerals and processions is fucking despicable.

Save it for the coronation.

Why do you need to kow why the woman wanted to do it? She wanted to express that in her view Charles was not her King. At that time because that is when it was happening

He was testing, he was testing at what point the Police would overstep

Do you really not understand that humans are quite varied and see things differently?